Community Messageboard: If I lived in France I wouldn't trust the Government either. :P by Brian

I'd be happy to tax top "earners" more and suffer Europes economic "collapse. " Joel - 03/09/2009 04:30:31 AM 897 Views

The US will never work with socialism. Tom - 03/09/2009 04:40:21 AM 976 Views

Re: The US will never work with socialism. Joel - 03/09/2009 04:58:47 AM 973 Views

I don't think the mistrust of the government is really all that overblown Brian - 03/09/2009 05:04:34 AM 888 Views

It's advanced beyond what it was during the Revolution, I think. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:18:22 AM 937 Views

I would say it's grown with the government Brian - 03/09/2009 05:23:52 AM 913 Views

The key is that government shouldn't be heavily involved in personal lives. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:58:39 AM 941 Views

Re: I don't think the mistrust of the government is really all that overblown Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 03:30:23 AM 846 Views

If I lived in France I wouldn't trust the Government either.

Brian - 04/09/2009 03:44:55 AM 931 Views

*laughs* the point is taken. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:24:07 AM 570 Views

Re: The US will never work with socialism. Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 03:28:24 AM 1032 Views

How much more can we really tax the wealthy?? Brian - 03/09/2009 04:41:14 AM 849 Views

Sadly, I think going back to the Clinton rates would help Tom - 03/09/2009 04:42:54 AM 787 Views

I'm ok with that....not super excited....but ok with it Brian - 03/09/2009 04:57:32 AM 824 Views

A lot; before Reagans "reforms" we already taxed them less than any other industrialized state did. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:06:00 AM 928 Views

I'm in the lower-middle class tax bracket Brian - 03/09/2009 05:13:39 AM 854 Views

It's both, IMHO. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:29:41 AM 782 Views

I hear a lot of socialism coming from you..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 05:19:08 AM 805 Views

Re: I hear a lot of socialism coming from you..... Joel - 03/09/2009 05:40:32 AM 878 Views

Nice non-answer answer..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 05:52:04 AM 915 Views

You want detailed answers that require detailed data I don't have. Joel - 03/09/2009 06:06:55 AM 941 Views

Here are some facts and analyses..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 02:40:22 PM 1023 Views

The Heritage Foundation, huh?

Joel - 03/09/2009 03:01:17 PM 1018 Views

The non-working wealthy? Please quantify..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 03:31:58 PM 971 Views

So you accept the CBOs assessment the House healthcare bill will be $1 trillion over the next decade Joel - 04/09/2009 03:02:13 AM 875 Views

Wow, that was one of the dumbest posts I have ever read..... trzaska2000 - 05/09/2009 05:42:45 AM 930 Views

So you're saying you DON'T proofread...?

Joel - 05/09/2009 05:59:49 AM 1036 Views

Paris Hilton? Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 03:43:19 AM 884 Views

You're so full of shit on this issue I don't know where to begin. Tom - 04/09/2009 03:15:55 AM 972 Views

Re: You're so full of shit on this issue I don't know where to begin. Joel - 04/09/2009 03:59:21 AM 1077 Views

Less than 200 people were said to be US persons with Swiss accounts Сталин - 04/09/2009 04:16:24 AM 867 Views

And yet account for many millions of dollars; what does that say...? Joel - 04/09/2009 04:21:57 AM 881 Views

It's statistically insignificant and your hyperbole is reminiscent of screaming guests on CNN. Сталин - 04/09/2009 02:07:31 PM 803 Views

Well, look at this way: Joel - 04/09/2009 02:24:03 PM 960 Views

That's not a solution. Сталин - 05/09/2009 02:39:12 AM 945 Views

The Soviets weren't socialist, or even communist, so it's a false comparison. Joel - 05/09/2009 03:09:06 AM 876 Views

Okay, now you've just gone into Kool-aid drinking territory. Сталин - 05/09/2009 04:32:07 AM 1038 Views

Communist THEORY is predicated on democratic participation at every level,totally absent in the USSR Joel - 05/09/2009 04:55:00 AM 1102 Views

FINALLY!!! Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 10:22:53 AM 915 Views

Ever heard of the 20-80 rule? Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:28:54 AM 774 Views

Yes, and 90% of people are idiots. Сталин - 05/09/2009 02:41:35 AM 1137 Views

Re: Yes, and 90% of people are idiots. Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 10:09:30 AM 915 Views

Top earners? Please define.....what income and how much more? *NM* trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 04:52:25 AM 565 Views

That would be open to definition, and should change with inflation. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:13:02 AM 1040 Views

What is your justification for taking over 50% of anyone's income? trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 05:28:22 AM 999 Views

That's a good example of why I say the rate has to be set to cost of living. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:50:16 AM 1026 Views

Still no comment on the fact that 40% of Americans don't pay any income taxes? trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 02:32:12 PM 918 Views

To what 40% do you refer? Joel - 03/09/2009 02:42:55 PM 781 Views

Dude, you are not making this easy..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 03:38:01 PM 834 Views

No one "gets money from the IRS. " Joel - 04/09/2009 02:55:02 AM 830 Views

Actually with EIC you can get money back that you never paid in. Brian - 04/09/2009 02:56:43 AM 828 Views

It MIGHT be possible with the EIC, but in practice few people get more than they paid. Joel - 04/09/2009 03:43:36 AM 875 Views

I don't know, I've known plenty of people that have gotten more back than they paid in Brian - 04/09/2009 03:46:29 AM 961 Views

A neat trick then. Joel - 04/09/2009 04:09:58 AM 961 Views

To be fair Brian - 04/09/2009 04:50:20 AM 908 Views

Ah, gotcha. Joel - 04/09/2009 04:53:58 AM 900 Views

Yet another example of your ignorance on tax policy. Tom - 04/09/2009 03:19:39 AM 790 Views

The word I notice is "welfare" Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 03:57:01 AM 908 Views

I wouldn't say that's what it means.... Brian - 04/09/2009 04:02:40 AM 893 Views

It's what welfare means to me... Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:32:17 AM 901 Views

I was just talking about EIC as a form of welfare, not welfare welfare. *NM* Brian - 04/09/2009 04:45:13 AM 503 Views

yes, I get that now. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 05:02:53 AM 492 Views

*NM* Brian - 04/09/2009 05:14:01 AM 488 Views

Not necessarily Сталин - 04/09/2009 04:11:41 AM 860 Views

*shrugs* I have a soft heart. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:30:52 AM 487 Views

It's a credit for people who file a return on income that's been taxed. Joel - 04/09/2009 04:19:57 AM 821 Views

It is only for the WORKING poor, yes. Сталин - 04/09/2009 02:12:55 PM 831 Views

Mean it may be, but hardly illegal. Joel - 04/09/2009 02:31:16 PM 841 Views

How does the business benefit? Сталин - 04/09/2009 04:54:27 PM 857 Views

I didn't realize you meant literal withholding. Joel - 05/09/2009 03:03:32 AM 867 Views

That's a no-no, Joel AgentOrange - 03/09/2009 07:32:03 AM 832 Views

Europe impresses me for one simple reason: Joel - 03/09/2009 09:21:28 AM 911 Views

No real comments, just 100% agree with you....plus the $12 trillion is terrifying to me. *NM* Brian - 03/09/2009 04:33:39 AM 407 Views

If that scares you, check this out! trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 04:48:56 AM 983 Views

Excellent post - the US government is not capable of running HC..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 04:40:19 AM 775 Views

There is one thing the government did right Tom - 03/09/2009 04:41:36 AM 891 Views

The bailout, some of it, was necessary..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 04:51:03 AM 889 Views

I still think it was too one sided. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:21:45 AM 910 Views

It depends on your level of cynicism nossy - 03/09/2009 05:38:53 AM 937 Views

when have they ever cut the fat? random thoughts - 03/09/2009 08:35:36 PM 881 Views

nossy - 03/09/2009 09:05:15 PM 913 Views

Well there is only one catch

*NM* random thoughts - 03/09/2009 10:56:00 PM 487 Views

This doesn't make sense to me. Tim - 03/09/2009 08:33:18 AM 895 Views

The key phrase is "should be. " Joel - 03/09/2009 09:38:15 AM 1049 Views

Re: The key phrase is "should be. " Lady Isa Avanderidhril - 03/09/2009 09:47:39 AM 918 Views

That sounds like a good stop gap to me. Joel - 03/09/2009 09:50:57 AM 951 Views

In fairness, most Europeans don't seem to realize what ObamaCare is. Legolas - 03/09/2009 02:34:01 PM 916 Views

What makes you think we do?

nossy - 03/09/2009 09:11:06 PM 922 Views

Oh, you don't either. I thought that went without saying.

*NM* Legolas - 03/09/2009 09:25:54 PM 507 Views

As far as most people I know are concerned, opposition to ObamaCare isn't the issue. Rebekah - 03/09/2009 11:04:36 PM 1020 Views

It's hard not to be horrified with a government as wasteful as ours Brian - 03/09/2009 11:24:59 PM 778 Views

I can understand horror of governments. Rebekah - 03/09/2009 11:30:23 PM 791 Views

a bit, yes. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:08:37 AM 509 Views

For Americans who don't understand why Canadians like their public healthcare. Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:23:11 AM 908 Views

Correction ßelals Girl - 04/09/2009 04:44:32 AM 905 Views

Re: Correction Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 05:05:11 AM 1046 Views

In all honesty.... Brian - 04/09/2009 05:18:23 AM 853 Views

Re: In all honesty.... Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 07:19:28 AM 930 Views

Re: Correction ßelals Girl - 04/09/2009 05:24:49 PM 853 Views

Re: Correction Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 10:11:45 AM 1058 Views

That's a nice theory. Joel - 04/09/2009 02:49:34 PM 946 Views

It's a fact ßelals Girl - 04/09/2009 05:21:59 PM 903 Views

Re: It's a fact Joel - 05/09/2009 03:18:39 AM 860 Views

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