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Re: I don't think the mistrust of the government is really all that overblown Kylia Skydancer Send a noteboard - 04/09/2009 03:30:23 AM
I mean not trusting the government is almost a part of being American. We don't trust our government, but we sure do love our country. It's how the country was founded, and for the most part how it's remained.


France doesn't trust its government much either. And yet they're known for some of the best public healthcare in the world.
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For Europeans who don't understand why Americans are against ObamaCare Tom - 03/09/2009 04:24:35 AM 1446 Views
I'd be happy to tax top "earners" more and suffer Europes economic "collapse. " Joel - 03/09/2009 04:30:31 AM 874 Views
The US will never work with socialism. Tom - 03/09/2009 04:40:21 AM 950 Views
Re: The US will never work with socialism. Joel - 03/09/2009 04:58:47 AM 949 Views
I don't think the mistrust of the government is really all that overblown Brian - 03/09/2009 05:04:34 AM 863 Views
It's advanced beyond what it was during the Revolution, I think. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:18:22 AM 916 Views
I would say it's grown with the government Brian - 03/09/2009 05:23:52 AM 890 Views
The key is that government shouldn't be heavily involved in personal lives. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:58:39 AM 917 Views
Re: I don't think the mistrust of the government is really all that overblown Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 03:30:23 AM 824 Views
If I lived in France I wouldn't trust the Government either. Brian - 04/09/2009 03:44:55 AM 905 Views
*laughs* the point is taken. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:24:07 AM 558 Views
Re: The US will never work with socialism. Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 03:28:24 AM 997 Views
How much more can we really tax the wealthy?? Brian - 03/09/2009 04:41:14 AM 826 Views
Sadly, I think going back to the Clinton rates would help Tom - 03/09/2009 04:42:54 AM 759 Views
I'm ok with that....not super excited....but ok with it Brian - 03/09/2009 04:57:32 AM 801 Views
A lot; before Reagans "reforms" we already taxed them less than any other industrialized state did. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:06:00 AM 905 Views
I'm in the lower-middle class tax bracket Brian - 03/09/2009 05:13:39 AM 831 Views
It's both, IMHO. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:29:41 AM 764 Views
I hear a lot of socialism coming from you..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 05:19:08 AM 786 Views
Re: I hear a lot of socialism coming from you..... Joel - 03/09/2009 05:40:32 AM 856 Views
Nice non-answer answer..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 05:52:04 AM 867 Views
You want detailed answers that require detailed data I don't have. Joel - 03/09/2009 06:06:55 AM 920 Views
Here are some facts and analyses..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 02:40:22 PM 1000 Views
The Heritage Foundation, huh? Joel - 03/09/2009 03:01:17 PM 997 Views
The non-working wealthy? Please quantify..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 03:31:58 PM 952 Views
So you accept the CBOs assessment the House healthcare bill will be $1 trillion over the next decade Joel - 04/09/2009 03:02:13 AM 849 Views
Wow, that was one of the dumbest posts I have ever read..... trzaska2000 - 05/09/2009 05:42:45 AM 894 Views
So you're saying you DON'T proofread...? Joel - 05/09/2009 05:59:49 AM 1006 Views
Paris Hilton? Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 03:43:19 AM 858 Views
You're so full of shit on this issue I don't know where to begin. Tom - 04/09/2009 03:15:55 AM 948 Views
Re: You're so full of shit on this issue I don't know where to begin. Joel - 04/09/2009 03:59:21 AM 1041 Views
Less than 200 people were said to be US persons with Swiss accounts Сталин - 04/09/2009 04:16:24 AM 845 Views
And yet account for many millions of dollars; what does that say...? Joel - 04/09/2009 04:21:57 AM 844 Views
It's statistically insignificant and your hyperbole is reminiscent of screaming guests on CNN. Сталин - 04/09/2009 02:07:31 PM 776 Views
Well, look at this way: Joel - 04/09/2009 02:24:03 PM 933 Views
That's not a solution. Сталин - 05/09/2009 02:39:12 AM 921 Views
The Soviets weren't socialist, or even communist, so it's a false comparison. Joel - 05/09/2009 03:09:06 AM 855 Views
Okay, now you've just gone into Kool-aid drinking territory. Сталин - 05/09/2009 04:32:07 AM 1003 Views
Communist THEORY is predicated on democratic participation at every level,totally absent in the USSR Joel - 05/09/2009 04:55:00 AM 1079 Views
FINALLY!!! Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 10:22:53 AM 888 Views
Ever heard of the 20-80 rule? Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:28:54 AM 751 Views
Yes, and 90% of people are idiots. Сталин - 05/09/2009 02:41:35 AM 1096 Views
Re: Yes, and 90% of people are idiots. Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 10:09:30 AM 886 Views
Top earners? Please define.....what income and how much more? *NM* trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 04:52:25 AM 556 Views
That would be open to definition, and should change with inflation. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:13:02 AM 1012 Views
What is your justification for taking over 50% of anyone's income? trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 05:28:22 AM 969 Views
That's a good example of why I say the rate has to be set to cost of living. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:50:16 AM 994 Views
Still no comment on the fact that 40% of Americans don't pay any income taxes? trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 02:32:12 PM 891 Views
To what 40% do you refer? Joel - 03/09/2009 02:42:55 PM 754 Views
Dude, you are not making this easy..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 03:38:01 PM 806 Views
No one "gets money from the IRS. " Joel - 04/09/2009 02:55:02 AM 809 Views
Actually with EIC you can get money back that you never paid in. Brian - 04/09/2009 02:56:43 AM 802 Views
It MIGHT be possible with the EIC, but in practice few people get more than they paid. Joel - 04/09/2009 03:43:36 AM 851 Views
I don't know, I've known plenty of people that have gotten more back than they paid in Brian - 04/09/2009 03:46:29 AM 938 Views
A neat trick then. Joel - 04/09/2009 04:09:58 AM 933 Views
To be fair Brian - 04/09/2009 04:50:20 AM 882 Views
Ah, gotcha. Joel - 04/09/2009 04:53:58 AM 875 Views
Yet another example of your ignorance on tax policy. Tom - 04/09/2009 03:19:39 AM 758 Views
The word I notice is "welfare" Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 03:57:01 AM 883 Views
I wouldn't say that's what it means.... Brian - 04/09/2009 04:02:40 AM 866 Views
It's what welfare means to me... Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:32:17 AM 879 Views
I was just talking about EIC as a form of welfare, not welfare welfare. *NM* Brian - 04/09/2009 04:45:13 AM 495 Views
yes, I get that now. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 05:02:53 AM 478 Views
*NM* Brian - 04/09/2009 05:14:01 AM 475 Views
Not necessarily Сталин - 04/09/2009 04:11:41 AM 830 Views
*shrugs* I have a soft heart. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:30:52 AM 478 Views
It's a credit for people who file a return on income that's been taxed. Joel - 04/09/2009 04:19:57 AM 796 Views
It is only for the WORKING poor, yes. Сталин - 04/09/2009 02:12:55 PM 800 Views
Mean it may be, but hardly illegal. Joel - 04/09/2009 02:31:16 PM 820 Views
How does the business benefit? Сталин - 04/09/2009 04:54:27 PM 835 Views
I didn't realize you meant literal withholding. Joel - 05/09/2009 03:03:32 AM 842 Views
That's a no-no, Joel AgentOrange - 03/09/2009 07:32:03 AM 806 Views
Europe impresses me for one simple reason: Joel - 03/09/2009 09:21:28 AM 856 Views
No real comments, just 100% agree with you....plus the $12 trillion is terrifying to me. *NM* Brian - 03/09/2009 04:33:39 AM 396 Views
If that scares you, check this out! trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 04:48:56 AM 962 Views
Excellent post - the US government is not capable of running HC..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 04:40:19 AM 754 Views
There is one thing the government did right Tom - 03/09/2009 04:41:36 AM 866 Views
The bailout, some of it, was necessary..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 04:51:03 AM 862 Views
I still think it was too one sided. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:21:45 AM 887 Views
It depends on your level of cynicism nossy - 03/09/2009 05:38:53 AM 919 Views
when have they ever cut the fat? random thoughts - 03/09/2009 08:35:36 PM 856 Views
Contrary to popular belief, they are quite good at it nossy - 03/09/2009 09:05:15 PM 873 Views
Well there is only one catch *NM* random thoughts - 03/09/2009 10:56:00 PM 475 Views
This doesn't make sense to me. Tim - 03/09/2009 08:33:18 AM 868 Views
The key phrase is "should be. " Joel - 03/09/2009 09:38:15 AM 1026 Views
Re: The key phrase is "should be. " Lady Isa Avanderidhril - 03/09/2009 09:47:39 AM 895 Views
That sounds like a good stop gap to me. Joel - 03/09/2009 09:50:57 AM 919 Views
In fairness, most Europeans don't seem to realize what ObamaCare is. Legolas - 03/09/2009 02:34:01 PM 889 Views
What makes you think we do? nossy - 03/09/2009 09:11:06 PM 897 Views
Oh, you don't either. I thought that went without saying. *NM* Legolas - 03/09/2009 09:25:54 PM 499 Views
As far as most people I know are concerned, opposition to ObamaCare isn't the issue. Rebekah - 03/09/2009 11:04:36 PM 997 Views
It's hard not to be horrified with a government as wasteful as ours Brian - 03/09/2009 11:24:59 PM 757 Views
I can understand horror of governments. Rebekah - 03/09/2009 11:30:23 PM 766 Views
a bit, yes. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:08:37 AM 498 Views
For Americans who don't understand why Canadians like their public healthcare. Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:23:11 AM 888 Views
Correction ßelals Girl - 04/09/2009 04:44:32 AM 881 Views
Re: Correction Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 05:05:11 AM 1012 Views
In all honesty.... Brian - 04/09/2009 05:18:23 AM 823 Views
Re: In all honesty.... Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 07:19:28 AM 902 Views
Re: Correction ßelals Girl - 04/09/2009 05:24:49 PM 830 Views
Re: Correction Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 10:11:45 AM 1031 Views
That's a nice theory. Joel - 04/09/2009 02:49:34 PM 929 Views
It's a fact ßelals Girl - 04/09/2009 05:21:59 PM 877 Views
Re: It's a fact Joel - 05/09/2009 03:18:39 AM 836 Views
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