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some scholars say yes, some say no Aisha Send a noteboard - 29/01/2010 05:51:18 AM
I'm honestly curious.


but the ones that say yes say it must be done before the soul is put inside the fetus, which is like 90-120 days, but on the other hand there is a hadith and quran verses that say something along the lines of dont kill your children because you fear poverty, god will provide ....

but in cases of rape and endangerment to the mothers life it si clearly said you can abort.
Aisha - formerly known as randschicka
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Anti-Abortion CBS Super Bowl commercial lil lady - 27/01/2010 05:35:37 PM 2140 Views
I think that its a fantastic idea... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 05:46:17 PM 1580 Views
agreed... somewhat. lil lady - 27/01/2010 05:52:26 PM 1520 Views
See, that's the debate here... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:03:01 PM 1225 Views
depending on the developmental stage, an embryo might be nothign more than a clump of cells. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:18:25 PM 1231 Views
You make baby Allah cry. *NM* LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 673 Views
was it the dog comparison? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:59:22 PM 1340 Views
Nah, Dog is God reversed, after all. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:29:12 PM 1225 Views
parasites! parasites i say!!! LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:37:53 PM 1269 Views
yeah except islam allows abortion in certain conditions Aisha - 28/01/2010 05:43:29 AM 1266 Views
Do those conditions include "I don't want a baby"? beckstcw - 28/01/2010 11:52:24 PM 1564 Views
some scholars say yes, some say no Aisha - 29/01/2010 05:51:18 AM 1384 Views
Shall we be technical.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:28:20 PM 1251 Views
And since when are you a trained eye? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:52:05 PM 1402 Views
A valid question Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:07:16 PM 1122 Views
Okay then, that's fair enough LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:48:10 PM 1260 Views
If there's a chance the mother might die... LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:30:54 PM 1234 Views
What if the "real" preson is an asshole? I'd gamble on the baby who has the potential to not be. Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:44:57 PM 1311 Views
I wasn't commenting on the commercial, I did that further below. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:59:17 PM 1254 Views
Which is why I'm against elective abortion Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:33:59 PM 1336 Views
Then we are in accord. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:00:32 PM 1279 Views
That works.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:10:22 PM 1281 Views
And I think that is wonderful. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:33:05 PM 1390 Views
I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 06:21:02 PM 1403 Views
Re: I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad lil lady - 27/01/2010 06:35:30 PM 1438 Views
Go ahead and pay for one.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:37:18 PM 1471 Views
beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 07:01:59 PM 1404 Views
at your Jeordam - 27/01/2010 07:03:39 PM 1263 Views
how does atheism take anything away? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:20:49 PM 1302 Views
Exactly Brian - 27/01/2010 07:29:49 PM 1116 Views
Smiles.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:38:25 PM 1342 Views
just because you believe in god LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:57:39 PM 1185 Views
losing, not loosing *NM* Brian - 27/01/2010 10:22:51 PM 687 Views
Re: Smiles.... lyringlas - 29/01/2010 09:03:48 PM 1284 Views
LOL It only "takes away" mental enslavement. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:50:56 PM 1300 Views
Who says? Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:42:07 PM 1270 Views
You're not "open" to anything. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 10:02:03 PM 1384 Views
I don't need your sadness dude...or your pity. Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:19:43 PM 1376 Views
Personally speaking Brian - 27/01/2010 10:36:45 PM 1165 Views
Although off topic that's exactly how I see it too. *NM* ironclad - 27/01/2010 10:43:49 PM 683 Views
But notice your perspective Brian... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 11:08:52 PM 1417 Views
Your argument assumes in the existance of the Christian God. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 11:28:16 PM 1334 Views
Because we're His children beckstcw - 28/01/2010 01:08:20 AM 1363 Views
My perspective as someone who is for the most part an Atheist? Brian - 28/01/2010 01:13:02 AM 1200 Views
You have a very odd and self-serving notion of what "open" is. LiterateDog - 28/01/2010 12:12:06 AM 4618 Views
Tolerance much? snoopcester - 27/01/2010 08:11:12 PM 1432 Views
I took care of that. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:33:18 PM 1364 Views
Don't read an emotion into that I didn't put into it. Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:44:37 PM 1122 Views
Oh, well there are examples. Google those ads I mentioned beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 11:24:10 PM 1111 Views
all athesim means is not believing in deities 9_9 LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 11:30:37 PM 1154 Views
Your comment is rude and narrow minded. Regardless of what emotion you feel snoopcester - 28/01/2010 03:20:11 PM 1201 Views
Fortunately, positivity doesn't appear to be the qualifying characteristic Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 08:26:28 PM 1320 Views
Well there is a difference between... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:47:36 PM 1501 Views
The fact is that it was a positive message, whether you agreed with it or not. Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 1259 Views
Says the Protestant. Ghavrel - 27/01/2010 11:22:05 PM 1260 Views
What is the UCC? *NM* Tashmere - 29/01/2010 02:59:07 AM 697 Views
United Church of Christ Sareitha Sedai - 29/01/2010 02:24:11 PM 1169 Views
I don't think it is the same thing random thoughts - 27/01/2010 07:17:19 PM 1228 Views
I wasn't making an argument- just that it'd be interesting beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 08:11:57 PM 1123 Views
that I can agree with random thoughts - 27/01/2010 08:27:30 PM 1133 Views
Re: I think that its a fantastic idea... callandor1000 - 28/01/2010 03:36:11 AM 1310 Views
Followed by an add of all the babies that should have been aborted? *NM* Helene - 29/01/2010 05:53:43 PM 664 Views
Hey whatever they want to pay for PhoenixReborn - 27/01/2010 05:52:11 PM 1345 Views
Hahahaha... I couldn't care less, but this line cracked me up beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 06:19:37 PM 1316 Views
wow...I didn't even think of that... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:39:04 PM 1330 Views
Heh. *NM* Tashmere - 28/01/2010 10:43:43 PM 689 Views
I think they need to treat all sides the same random thoughts - 27/01/2010 06:49:47 PM 1319 Views
agreed *NM* ironclad - 27/01/2010 07:15:48 PM 691 Views
this. *NM* Avendesora - 28/01/2010 01:33:01 AM 590 Views
whether you agree with Tebow or not... damookster - 27/01/2010 06:51:58 PM 1222 Views
I don't think there'd be a problem if it wasn't the Super Bowl LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:35:18 PM 1335 Views
The problem is the hyprocrisy of CBS. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:56:58 PM 1466 Views
Bingo. Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 955 Views
And they claim this is the result of you liberal types pissing and moaning. Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:40:57 PM 1292 Views
Yeah, I'm sure that's it. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:44:26 PM 1106 Views
"the buggery agenda" LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:47:28 PM 1354 Views
I know, I loved it! I might start using that instead of Fagenda. *NM* LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 09:03:53 PM 677 Views
You might need to rework titles too. "Most Buggered", "Her Buggerness" LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:06:44 PM 1464 Views
this commercial is only a big deal to those Hobgoblin - 27/01/2010 07:59:27 PM 1331 Views
I really, really hope a pro-choice group buys the next ad space snoopcester - 27/01/2010 08:09:16 PM 1239 Views
Replace Hitler with Ben Affleck and I'd help pay for it. Brian - 27/01/2010 08:12:25 PM 1193 Views
that's funny enough it'd pay for itself LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:13:31 PM 1285 Views
That would work also. The main thing is to pick someone who has committed crimes against humanity snoopcester - 28/01/2010 10:57:28 AM 1063 Views
But how would you folks argue on the internet then? I'd still have Stalin... *NM* Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:49:17 PM 660 Views
I'm sure people could think of something *NM* LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:00:23 PM 547 Views
LMAO! that would be awesome *NM* Aisha - 28/01/2010 12:02:25 AM 694 Views
The funny thing is Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 08:28:22 PM 1532 Views
Oh no you di'in't! Tigr - 27/01/2010 08:54:47 PM 1053 Views
I had a similar thought... TaskmasterJack - 27/01/2010 10:17:15 PM 1309 Views
*NM* Avendesora - 28/01/2010 01:12:46 AM 629 Views
*brain explodes* Joel - 27/01/2010 08:30:51 PM 1093 Views
are your sinuses clear now? *NM* random thoughts - 27/01/2010 08:54:18 PM 639 Views
Oddly enough, they aren't. Joel - 27/01/2010 08:59:27 PM 1374 Views
thats what you get for living in the hill country random thoughts - 27/01/2010 09:10:09 PM 1057 Views
Not my idea, and I'm working on it. Joel - 28/01/2010 12:36:17 AM 1239 Views
the super bowl is no place for political messages, no matter how thinly veiled. moondog - 28/01/2010 05:15:13 AM 1156 Views
Are you saying that CBS should be required to run an opposing ad? *NM* beckstcw - 28/01/2010 05:19:39 AM 638 Views
if they are going to approve a political message, they should be required to air the opposite view moondog - 28/01/2010 05:27:33 AM 992 Views
I'm pretty strongly pro-choice and even I find that silly. *NM* Ghavrel - 28/01/2010 06:55:37 AM 706 Views
What kind of ad would they run in response? beckstcw - 28/01/2010 11:50:10 PM 1258 Views
more like.... moondog - 29/01/2010 03:20:24 AM 1462 Views
The problem with Pro-Choice is... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 02:12:13 PM 1226 Views
Not really a fair comment snoopcester - 28/01/2010 02:44:21 PM 1166 Views
Re: Not really a fair comment Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 03:27:03 PM 1206 Views
I can't see Youtube at work and am out the next couple of nights so I can't see it till the weekend snoopcester - 28/01/2010 03:36:48 PM 1020 Views
I know you were going to tell me that it was slanted... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 03:57:37 PM 1280 Views
That is unfair on me snoopcester - 28/01/2010 04:18:07 PM 1359 Views
Sorry...wasn't trying to be unfair.... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 04:34:18 PM 1227 Views
Apology accepted snoopcester - 28/01/2010 04:52:39 PM 1073 Views
...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare Floffe - 28/01/2010 03:46:25 PM 1220 Views
Re: ...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 04:03:46 PM 1330 Views
An unfortunate choice of words.... Jeordam - 28/01/2010 07:00:18 PM 1058 Views
I don't think it's so much a matter of supplying misleading information, Rebekah - 28/01/2010 11:07:24 PM 1254 Views
Ah, snoopcester - 29/01/2010 02:51:22 PM 1218 Views
No. Rebekah - 29/01/2010 06:10:47 PM 1223 Views
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