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The stealth skills come in very handy though. Joel Send a noteboard - 09/09/2012 04:11:40 PM
Imoen dual classes as a mage in Baldur's Gate II, so aside from that brief period where I get to use Yoshimo, I'm typically stuck with very little rogues :P.

Imoens frustrated the living Hell out of me; how anyone can make it to (IIRC) 8th or 9th level as a thief with only about 35% Move Silently and Hide in Shadows is beyond me. I know she was supposed to be all about traps and lock picking, but that is pretty disgraceful (particularly since you can usually get by with minimal trap detection skill; you just have to wait a little longer to find traps when you know they are there.)

With boots of speed and good stealth skills though I can send a F/T and straight class thief (possibly accompanied by a Stalker) on reconnaissance in force knowing they can quickly drop anything less than five guys without help from the rest of the party. You can usually get by with a multi or dual class thief though; it does not become a problem unless that is your ONLY thief, because otherwise you can pump the stealth skills of two thieves and have one specialize in traps while the other specializes in picking pockets.
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Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition: Edit 2 with added video & launch delay - 07/09/2012 09:48:16 PM 3319 Views
!!!!! - 07/09/2012 10:49:47 PM 1770 Views
are they created kindly or cruelly? - 08/09/2012 05:34:36 PM 1760 Views
Lol! Realistically, if exaggerated to heroic levels. - 09/09/2012 07:56:32 PM 1774 Views
I played the hell out of BG2, but only played BG1 once - 08/09/2012 06:07:15 AM 1901 Views
BGI is a lot more fun because a lot more challenging, IMHO. - 08/09/2012 02:33:17 PM 1732 Views
*revelation* - 08/09/2012 05:45:28 PM 1729 Views
fireballs are so epic in BG1 - 08/09/2012 05:41:34 PM 1780 Views
I disagree about it being the only good third level spell;lighting bolt and haste are also excellent - 08/09/2012 06:26:08 PM 1938 Views
Yeah, I loved Lightning Bolt. - 08/09/2012 06:44:59 PM 1678 Views
it was such a liability - 08/09/2012 07:11:36 PM 1780 Views
Bouncing is what makes lightning bolts great, because you get to hit people more than once. - 08/09/2012 08:59:10 PM 1702 Views
There's an unfortunate Wizard in the Firewine Bridge Ruins... - 09/09/2012 12:58:18 AM 1779 Views
Oops. - 09/09/2012 01:43:23 AM 1750 Views
that's why BG1 was so awesome. exploration=rewards - 09/09/2012 09:09:22 AM 1736 Views
Yeah, got to keep one of each on hand. - 08/09/2012 08:57:31 PM 1662 Views
Multi-player was actually pretty simple if you just used it to create your whole party. - 08/09/2012 02:19:35 PM 1760 Views
well yeah, because there was no connection to figure out - 08/09/2012 06:59:49 PM 1844 Views
Right; I was never a big multiplayer fan anyway, but customized parties were nice - 08/09/2012 08:53:45 PM 1882 Views
Where's the fun in having a customized party and losing all the character interaction, though? - 09/09/2012 04:03:10 PM 1866 Views
I dislike most of the BG NPCs anyway, so I do not much feel the lack. - 09/09/2012 04:45:12 PM 1963 Views
Re: I dislike most of the BG NPCs anyway, so I do not much feel the lack. - 10/09/2012 01:23:44 PM 1762 Views
Agreed. - 11/09/2012 07:01:07 PM 1798 Views
Suggestion since you're not using the NPCs anyway... - 15/09/2012 11:34:28 PM 1851 Views
That is a good thought; I never played IWD. - 16/09/2012 03:31:01 AM 1742 Views
Where did you think I just got it? - 16/09/2012 04:39:43 PM 1676 Views
How would I know you just got a game released in the late nineties? - 17/09/2012 06:57:19 PM 1675 Views
Re: How would I know you just got a game released in the late nineties? - 17/09/2012 11:08:09 PM 1851 Views
I still like GURPS' character points best. - 17/09/2012 11:40:12 PM 1730 Views
Heh, I'm not surprised. - 18/09/2012 01:47:55 AM 1755 Views
If you want to avoid hyperspecialization, avoid classes. - 18/09/2012 07:36:43 AM 1972 Views
I've never played GURPS, so I don't know how its system works. - 18/09/2012 03:32:21 PM 1811 Views
I recommend it, but it is a bear to run. - 19/09/2012 03:37:19 AM 2188 Views
Re: I recommend it, but it is a bear to run. - 19/09/2012 08:35:24 AM 1743 Views
It is the difference between "what if...?" and "whatever...." - 19/09/2012 10:58:31 PM 1840 Views
Re: It is the difference between "what if...?" and "whatever...." - 20/09/2012 12:31:10 AM 1763 Views
AD&D cannot avoid one-sided encounters without restricting epic characters to epic encounters. - 24/09/2012 05:53:39 AM 2075 Views
Re: AD&D cannot avoid one-sided encounters without restricting epic characters to epic encounters. - 24/09/2012 07:03:39 AM 1742 Views
Things are a little different if you are the GM, yes. - 24/09/2012 08:33:23 AM 2022 Views
Re: Things are a little different if you are the GM, yes. - 24/09/2012 07:24:51 PM 1883 Views
My point is no one should be at any level. - 25/09/2012 01:23:21 AM 1958 Views
Re: My point is no one should be at any level. - 25/09/2012 03:41:42 AM 1996 Views
I know no more about AD&D 3rd Ed. than I retain from skimming the book a few times in a store. - 25/09/2012 05:16:49 AM 1796 Views
Re: I know no more about AD&D 3rd Ed. than I retain from skimming the book a few times in a store. - 25/09/2012 06:05:39 PM 1985 Views
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I can't speak for IWD I, but II is okay on the story front so far. - 18/09/2012 06:36:16 PM 1659 Views
Nah, IWD I barely had any story at all. - 18/09/2012 08:16:49 PM 1606 Views
agreed - 19/09/2012 09:42:28 AM 1881 Views
I've still only played about 4 hours of BG1 - 08/09/2012 03:59:49 PM 1807 Views
If you have not yet, you should look into the Weidu mods. - 08/09/2012 06:12:20 PM 1645 Views
But what's the point in playing the game if you don't use the NPCs? - 08/09/2012 06:47:38 PM 1706 Views
agreed the NPCs are half the fun - 08/09/2012 07:02:22 PM 1711 Views
Not having a bunch of potentially useful but AI ruined incompetents constantly fumbling. - 08/09/2012 08:55:53 PM 1803 Views
Yeah, but optimising the whole group sounds ridiculously easy. - 09/09/2012 01:03:51 AM 1663 Views
Well, there are always mods for that. - 09/09/2012 01:37:42 AM 1614 Views
For talking to pretty much anyone, really. - 09/09/2012 03:20:29 AM 1725 Views
True. - 09/09/2012 03:46:24 AM 1719 Views
Well, I usually don't have thieves in my party. - 09/09/2012 04:56:21 AM 1648 Views
there wasn't a good enough thief option in bg2/ToB - 09/09/2012 09:15:21 AM 1611 Views
I noticed that also; another argument for creating a party via MP even if you move it back to SP. - 09/09/2012 11:45:12 PM 1721 Views
storyline man! - 10/09/2012 01:43:51 PM 1689 Views
I make my OWN storyline. - 10/09/2012 06:35:43 PM 1775 Views
Just how many thieves do you even need? - 10/09/2012 06:22:58 PM 1755 Views
The stealth skills come in very handy though. - 09/09/2012 04:11:40 PM 1700 Views
Any suggested parties for beginners? *NM* - 10/09/2012 01:13:38 AM 890 Views
I plan to do custom characters for the other 6 slots - 10/09/2012 01:42:41 AM 1663 Views
There are no "other" six slots - there are six slots, period. - 10/09/2012 06:24:33 PM 1686 Views
well, absolute standard would be: - 10/09/2012 01:35:15 PM 1748 Views
My own recommendation would be: - 10/09/2012 07:36:04 PM 1697 Views
I am completely stoked about it. - 10/09/2012 07:07:09 PM 1841 Views
TotSC made BGI a LOT more fun. - 10/09/2012 07:46:03 PM 1619 Views
all the kits/races/dual wielding etc will be available in bgee - 11/09/2012 09:02:35 AM 1638 Views
Ah; nice. - 11/09/2012 06:57:14 PM 1775 Views
i'm not sure they were even state of the art at the time - 12/09/2012 09:26:05 AM 1673 Views
Remember, BGI was released only about two years after Doom. - 13/09/2012 12:05:11 AM 1716 Views
If by "two" you mean "five," then yes. DOOM was released in 1993. - 13/09/2012 03:22:58 PM 1671 Views
Ah, 1998. The golden year. Ocarina of Time. Starcraft. Half-Life. *NM* - 13/09/2012 04:16:21 PM 926 Views
Can't believe I forgot about HALF-LIFE. *NM* - 13/09/2012 09:06:55 PM 906 Views
That just reminds me of how sad it is that StarCraft died this year . *NM* - 13/09/2012 11:55:28 PM 877 Views
I don't mind the graphics in it - 12/09/2012 04:38:47 PM 1722 Views
Re: I don't mind the graphics in it - 13/09/2012 01:55:24 AM 1620 Views
I'm going to ask this here rather than start a new topic as its somewhat related. - 10/09/2012 07:42:32 PM 1692 Views
I remember Wisdom being important - 14/09/2012 04:28:23 AM 1644 Views
And it now has been delayed till Nov *NM* - 15/09/2012 03:52:41 AM 876 Views
On another note, shame on all of you for not telling me Jon Irenicus is Ra's Al Ghul - 15/09/2012 04:19:21 AM 1726 Views
Among many many others. - 17/09/2012 06:45:33 PM 1707 Views

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