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"Attract labor"? Minimum wage labor? I believe you mean, violently repell businesses Cannoli Send a noteboard - 30/06/2017 03:31:36 PM

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But if at the basic level of local government, be that city, county, parish or whatever, voters elect those who want to impose a minimum wage, fine.

What if they elect those who want to legalize pedophilia? Morality trumps democracy, and a third party, government or not, has no business interfering in transactions and private contracts between two others.


Perhaps other nearby cities will have to follow suit in order to attract labor. Or, on the other hand, it fails as neighboring businesses charge lower prices due to their reduced labor costs. Either way, the market decides.

The "market decides" what labor is worth. Lots of people don't like that outcome, so they try to circumvent the market by imposing a minimum wage, while refusing to recognize that unemployment is the market's reaction.

As for your vision of the market deciding, with areas having to set or raise a minimum mage in order to prevent workers from fleeing to other regions... NEVER HAPPEN. That's why we have federal & state minimum wage, to protect it from competition. First of all, no one would set up shop in an area that would force them to raise their labor. Much more likely than workers crossing to other regions to make minimum wage (commuting and relocating aren't exactly easy for poor people) is businesses setting up where they don't have to worry about the laws.

Cannoli
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*NM* - 28/06/2017 12:25:45 AM 427 Views
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Re: Personal choice - 28/06/2017 12:32:31 AM 821 Views
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FULLY AUTOMATED LUXURY SPACE COMMUNISM. - 28/06/2017 07:49:59 PM 923 Views
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But this same arguement can be flipped by.... - 28/06/2017 10:34:25 PM 856 Views
I feel like you're making my arguments for me here. - 28/06/2017 10:51:38 PM 884 Views
an apt comparison - 28/06/2017 11:09:25 PM 747 Views
So everyone who "can't" - 29/06/2017 09:49:41 AM 790 Views
ummm - 29/06/2017 02:06:54 PM 711 Views
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Si - 29/06/2017 09:08:03 PM 804 Views
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Nicely said. Or written. *NM* - 29/06/2017 09:30:06 AM 472 Views
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Re: So just to put this out there... - 30/06/2017 01:34:03 AM 735 Views
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I for one am entirely unsuprised. Common sense result. *NM* - 27/06/2017 06:23:01 AM 530 Views
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Re: But the traffic is the WORST. - 28/06/2017 10:38:54 AM 772 Views
Just to nitpick, Switzerland isn't exactly homogeneous. - 28/06/2017 10:28:01 PM 819 Views

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