View original postJust like you can't change your species, or your age, or your race. You either have the XX chromosome or the XY. Mutilating your body to imitate the other sex doesn't change that.
I don't personally know any better, but given that one can feel like a man or a woman, and can see the physical morphology, I'd imagine those two points would be the focus. The actual chromosomes, being invisible and unchangeable, are possibly irrelevant re: emotional satisfaction.
View original postSexual identity problems should be treated the same way any other mental issue is treated. One article that I read drew a very good parallel with body integrity identity disorder, where people feel "wrong" unless and until a part of their body is removed or they achieve some other handicapped status (blind, deaf, etc.).
Of course. Study it, learn which solutions work best against the main issue for the individual. I strongly disagree that it's a simple yes or no answer for every person struggling with identity. If we treated every diagnosis as though it had one answer, we'd struggle to help the individual appropriately. Some need medicine, some don't. And there are so many methods and permutations of therapy.
I have no skin in the game, but if more people are "saved" from suicide, and are offered healthier (by personal definition) lives through sex-changes, I genuinely don't see how it's any of my business. I wouldn't tell anyone not to get a boob job or other plastic surgery, either, even though I think those things are crazy (for me).
This message last edited by nossy on 13/09/2017 at 02:57:44 PM
WHAT. THE. SHIT?!
11/09/2017 11:58:15 PM
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As usual, I'm going to breeze past most of the nonsense here.
12/09/2017 02:27:37 AM
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Oh, for sure.
12/09/2017 10:55:59 PM
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Just like cancer--it's natural, so it can't be bad.
13/09/2017 12:37:16 AM
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You say my argument isn't good, so you rebut with... that?
13/09/2017 02:01:04 AM
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Are you familiar with the suicide rates of people experiencing dysphoria?
13/09/2017 02:10:44 AM
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Sigh
13/09/2017 04:28:34 AM
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Actually
13/09/2017 12:46:03 PM
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You can't change your sex.
13/09/2017 02:06:05 PM
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I'm not talking about DNA.
13/09/2017 02:55:26 PM
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I wouldn't care, either, if not for the demand for official recognition.
13/09/2017 03:41:34 PM
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What are they asking for that bothers you? *NM*
13/09/2017 04:07:19 PM
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He repeatedly said so in his posts.
13/09/2017 04:24:15 PM
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Yes, thank you for mansplaining.
13/09/2017 05:23:59 PM
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Cannoli is right. I was pretty clear about what bothers me.
13/09/2017 08:49:12 PM
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I did expect more
13/09/2017 10:36:36 PM
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I agree with this.
13/09/2017 04:34:19 PM
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Yeah, they are.
14/09/2017 03:29:07 AM
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LOL
14/09/2017 06:06:28 AM
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You replace that "M" with an "L", and change the "no" to an "a"....
14/09/2017 06:17:06 AM
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Congratulations. You've begun arguing for transition.
13/09/2017 03:08:32 PM
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I repeat, you do not fix your problems by maiming yourself.
13/09/2017 09:56:36 PM
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So your suggestion is to keep the suicide rate staggeringly high. Excellent solution.
13/09/2017 11:03:42 PM
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Nice strawman.
14/09/2017 02:42:01 AM
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And in the meantime, while your miracle drugs and therapies are being developed... *NM*
14/09/2017 03:08:55 AM
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Don't allow them to maim themselves. It's that simple. I don't get why you don't get it.
14/09/2017 03:18:20 AM
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Because you're saying "don't do this thing that makes you less likely to kill yourself."
14/09/2017 05:46:13 AM
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14/09/2017 05:19:40 PM
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In fairness to Ghavrel...
14/09/2017 11:15:04 PM
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Oh, thank you! Your hyperbolic sarcasm has opened my eyes!
15/09/2017 06:28:35 AM
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I thought your latest replies were slacking off a bit, so I resumed your best arguments from before.
15/09/2017 07:22:04 AM
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You're not even making sense.
15/09/2017 05:46:04 PM
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If only stamina were enough to win a debate.
15/09/2017 08:00:26 PM
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Oh! Haha! I don't know how I missed the humor there!
15/09/2017 08:42:50 PM
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Yeah, most people feel that way when they're being mocked. *NM*
15/09/2017 09:00:32 PM
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K. Get back to me when you want to actually have a discussion, then. *NM*
16/09/2017 03:43:37 AM
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You should read up on OCD and hair dryers. Or really on mental illness at all. *NM*
15/09/2017 09:02:22 PM
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Oh yeah? Do they cause permanent damage to their bodies? *NM*
16/09/2017 03:44:38 AM
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They cause permanent alterations to their bodies through the use of medicine.
16/09/2017 07:11:57 AM
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Liposuction isn't an acceptable treatment for anorexia nervosa.
13/09/2017 11:08:07 AM
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It would be if it had the best prognosis for people with AN, though.
13/09/2017 03:06:11 PM
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No it wouldnt. Anorexics very often are underweight to begin with. How does liposuction help?
14/09/2017 01:53:33 AM
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...it doesn't. That's why it's not the solution which offers the best prognosis. That was the point.
14/09/2017 03:11:04 AM
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You know what might make my anxiety and severe depression easier to manage? Millions of dollars.
14/09/2017 01:40:09 AM
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Sure. That's a decent point. I think there needs to be a discussion about children. *NM*
14/09/2017 03:06:51 AM
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I don't it is a question of good or bad but if it should be celibrated and treated as normal
13/09/2017 08:56:34 PM
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So how to protect little Pat from
13/09/2017 04:32:44 PM
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You seem either confused on what that means, or leaping to rather unjustified conclusions.
13/09/2017 06:29:47 PM
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I missed that part....
13/09/2017 07:00:17 PM
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Yes. If you watch the whole video (15 mins), it's actually pretty nuanced and interesting. *NM*
13/09/2017 07:10:07 PM
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Not confused about the syndrome. Was the kid in the article/news segment named 'Pat'?
13/09/2017 07:06:08 PM
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Patrick, yes.
13/09/2017 07:08:37 PM
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Doctor shopping, of course
13/09/2017 07:24:20 PM
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I doubt it's that easy. But what makes this different from other conditions in that regard? *NM*
13/09/2017 07:34:30 PM
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I find the things they're doing with young people on this issue very troubling.
14/09/2017 03:58:05 AM
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