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Nice strawman. TyrReborn Send a noteboard - 14/09/2017 02:42:01 AM

Instead of allowing mentally ill patients to indulge in their psychosis, and, again, literal definition here, maim themselves, the focus ought to be on developing better therapeutic processes, and, if need be, better pharmaceuticals to help them accept that their psychosis is just that.

But sure, I'm really just transphobic. Whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess.

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WHAT. THE. SHIT?! Cannoli - 11/09/2017 11:58:15 PM 1248 Views
As usual, I'm going to breeze past most of the nonsense here. Ghavrel - 12/09/2017 02:27:37 AM 656 Views
Oh, for sure. TyrReborn - 12/09/2017 10:55:59 PM 549 Views
Just like cancer--it's natural, so it can't be bad. Ghavrel - 13/09/2017 12:37:16 AM 517 Views
You say my argument isn't good, so you rebut with... that? TyrReborn - 13/09/2017 02:01:04 AM 544 Views
Are you familiar with the suicide rates of people experiencing dysphoria? Ghavrel - 13/09/2017 02:10:44 AM 481 Views
Sigh TyrReborn - 13/09/2017 04:28:34 AM 588 Views
Actually nossy - 13/09/2017 12:46:03 PM 451 Views
You can't change your sex. Tom - 13/09/2017 02:06:05 PM 842 Views
I'm not talking about DNA. nossy - 13/09/2017 02:55:26 PM 453 Views
I wouldn't care, either, if not for the demand for official recognition. Tom - 13/09/2017 03:41:34 PM 594 Views
What are they asking for that bothers you? *NM* nossy - 13/09/2017 04:07:19 PM 292 Views
He repeatedly said so in his posts. Cannoli - 13/09/2017 04:24:15 PM 592 Views
Yes, thank you for mansplaining. nossy - 13/09/2017 05:23:59 PM 441 Views
Cannoli is right. I was pretty clear about what bothers me. Tom - 13/09/2017 08:49:12 PM 493 Views
I did expect more nossy - 13/09/2017 10:36:36 PM 518 Views
I thought I provided it. Adherence to logic, facts and reality. Tom - 13/09/2017 10:41:39 PM 526 Views
No, you did. nossy - 13/09/2017 11:16:18 PM 505 Views
I agree with this. damookster - 13/09/2017 04:34:19 PM 459 Views
Yeah, they are. LiterateDog - 14/09/2017 03:29:07 AM 497 Views
LOL damookster - 14/09/2017 06:06:28 AM 485 Views
You replace that "M" with an "L", and change the "no" to an "a".... LiterateDog - 14/09/2017 06:17:06 AM 521 Views
... yet. *NM* aerocontrols - 13/09/2017 07:26:56 PM 314 Views
Congratulations. You've begun arguing for transition. Ghavrel - 13/09/2017 03:08:32 PM 457 Views
Don't forget.... Jeordam - 13/09/2017 07:27:41 PM 429 Views
I repeat, you do not fix your problems by maiming yourself. TyrReborn - 13/09/2017 09:56:36 PM 451 Views
So your suggestion is to keep the suicide rate staggeringly high. Excellent solution. Ghavrel - 13/09/2017 11:03:42 PM 515 Views
Nice strawman. TyrReborn - 14/09/2017 02:42:01 AM 426 Views
And in the meantime, while your miracle drugs and therapies are being developed... *NM* Ghavrel - 14/09/2017 03:08:55 AM 338 Views
Don't allow them to maim themselves. It's that simple. I don't get why you don't get it. TyrReborn - 14/09/2017 03:18:20 AM 542 Views
Because you're saying "don't do this thing that makes you less likely to kill yourself." Ghavrel - 14/09/2017 05:46:13 AM 437 Views
TyrReborn - 14/09/2017 05:19:40 PM 465 Views
In fairness to Ghavrel... Legolas - 14/09/2017 11:15:04 PM 483 Views
Oh, thank you! Your hyperbolic sarcasm has opened my eyes! TyrReborn - 15/09/2017 06:28:35 AM 425 Views
I thought your latest replies were slacking off a bit, so I resumed your best arguments from before. Legolas - 15/09/2017 07:22:04 AM 498 Views
You're not even making sense. TyrReborn - 15/09/2017 05:46:04 PM 488 Views
If only stamina were enough to win a debate. Legolas - 15/09/2017 08:00:26 PM 531 Views
Oh! Haha! I don't know how I missed the humor there! TyrReborn - 15/09/2017 08:42:50 PM 399 Views
Yeah, most people feel that way when they're being mocked. *NM* Ghavrel - 15/09/2017 09:00:32 PM 313 Views
K. Get back to me when you want to actually have a discussion, then. *NM* TyrReborn - 16/09/2017 03:43:37 AM 306 Views
You should read up on OCD and hair dryers. Or really on mental illness at all. *NM* Ghavrel - 15/09/2017 09:02:22 PM 296 Views
Oh yeah? Do they cause permanent damage to their bodies? *NM* TyrReborn - 16/09/2017 03:44:38 AM 264 Views
They cause permanent alterations to their bodies through the use of medicine. Ghavrel - 16/09/2017 07:11:57 AM 685 Views
Liposuction isn't an acceptable treatment for anorexia nervosa. AgentApple - 13/09/2017 11:08:07 AM 459 Views
It would be if it had the best prognosis for people with AN, though. Ghavrel - 13/09/2017 03:06:11 PM 485 Views
No it wouldnt. Anorexics very often are underweight to begin with. How does liposuction help? Hieshyn - 14/09/2017 01:53:33 AM 604 Views
...it doesn't. That's why it's not the solution which offers the best prognosis. That was the point. Ghavrel - 14/09/2017 03:11:04 AM 520 Views
I've been thinking about this point.... Jeordam - 18/09/2017 07:00:49 PM 490 Views
You know what might make my anxiety and severe depression easier to manage? Millions of dollars. Hieshyn - 14/09/2017 01:40:09 AM 405 Views
Sure. That's a decent point. I think there needs to be a discussion about children. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/09/2017 03:06:51 AM 288 Views
I don't it is a question of good or bad but if it should be celibrated and treated as normal random thoughts - 13/09/2017 08:56:34 PM 471 Views
This is pretty sad on multiple levels.... Jeordam - 12/09/2017 10:45:17 PM 521 Views
Transgenderism is the Twenty First Century's phrenology *NM* Tom - 13/09/2017 12:25:29 AM 333 Views
So how to protect little Pat from aerocontrols - 13/09/2017 04:32:44 PM 471 Views
You seem either confused on what that means, or leaping to rather unjustified conclusions. Legolas - 13/09/2017 06:29:47 PM 436 Views
I missed that part.... Jeordam - 13/09/2017 07:00:17 PM 413 Views
Yes. If you watch the whole video (15 mins), it's actually pretty nuanced and interesting. *NM* Legolas - 13/09/2017 07:10:07 PM 319 Views
Not confused about the syndrome. Was the kid in the article/news segment named 'Pat'? aerocontrols - 13/09/2017 07:06:08 PM 438 Views
Patrick, yes. Legolas - 13/09/2017 07:08:37 PM 438 Views
Doctor shopping, of course aerocontrols - 13/09/2017 07:24:20 PM 494 Views
I doubt it's that easy. But what makes this different from other conditions in that regard? *NM* Legolas - 13/09/2017 07:34:30 PM 316 Views
Because it's not wrong...? aerocontrols - 15/09/2017 05:53:24 PM 453 Views
I suppose. I meant on the doctors approving treatment side. Legolas - 15/09/2017 08:10:59 PM 494 Views
That is one of the draw back of the US medical system random thoughts - 18/09/2017 05:02:38 PM 454 Views
HAHAHAHA!!!! aerocontrols - 13/09/2017 07:07:08 PM 371 Views
You ain't lyin' about that. LiterateDog - 14/09/2017 04:06:48 AM 508 Views
I find the things they're doing with young people on this issue very troubling. LiterateDog - 14/09/2017 03:58:05 AM 503 Views
I think this is an eminently reasonable viewpoint. Ghavrel - 14/09/2017 05:49:00 AM 549 Views
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