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But - If you build it, they will come. Seems counterproductive then, no? The Shrike Send a noteboard - 08/01/2019 07:41:42 PM

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Let's build it!

Sound be a fun speech and hysterical aftermath.


Anyway, most new illegal immigrants arrive by plane rather than by foot. Seems we would be better off funding some sort of national employer check database where every job required a valid SSN. Push the responsibility for hiring legal employees onto the employers.

Back to this Wall, however. I would like to see some sort of compromise solution put forward. Funding for the Wall in exchange for legalization of all the Dreamers (though without the chance for nominating anyone to come across to the US once they have permanent residency/citizenship).

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Trump Tonight - National Address on Immigration and the Wall Anonymous2000 - 08/01/2019 07:14:06 PM 674 Views
But - If you build it, they will come. Seems counterproductive then, no? The Shrike - 08/01/2019 07:41:42 PM 386 Views
Very reasonable compromise..... Anonymous2000 - 09/01/2019 12:19:00 AM 401 Views
*Scratches head*... this is reasonable? fionwe1987 - 09/01/2019 06:35:28 AM 374 Views
Illegal entry is a misdemeanor crime. So yes, it is a crime. The Shrike - 09/01/2019 02:03:45 PM 392 Views
Does that apply to children? fionwe1987 - 09/01/2019 07:21:41 PM 372 Views
Not really Roland00 - 09/01/2019 09:31:42 PM 347 Views
They, and their parents, would have been deported. The Shrike - 10/01/2019 12:55:17 AM 354 Views
People forget Obama earned the sobriquet, The Deporter in Chief. *NM* damookster - 10/01/2019 01:12:30 AM 168 Views
Dude deported millions. But the media didn't act impartially and report on it. The Shrike - 10/01/2019 04:09:58 PM 342 Views
Quotes from prominent Democrats on illegal immigration damookster - 10/01/2019 08:15:05 PM 353 Views
There's also this amazing speech from Bill Clinton (one I completely agree with). The Shrike - 11/01/2019 03:35:29 PM 340 Views
"Mens rea"+"Minor"="No Crime Committed" on the part of the minor. Roland00 - 09/01/2019 09:22:01 PM 345 Views
But any way you look at it.... Jeordam - 09/01/2019 10:33:58 PM 356 Views
Do you have a right to life, liberty, and a pursuit of happiness? Roland00 - 09/01/2019 11:48:00 PM 336 Views
Jeordam is using the law here. They don't have any rights to be here. The Shrike - 10/01/2019 12:57:41 AM 361 Views
No it is not that simple Greg Roland00 - 10/01/2019 01:37:17 AM 355 Views
It really is that simple. Take out so-called morals. Take out emotions. The Shrike - 10/01/2019 04:07:54 PM 358 Views
I hope you have a good day Greg Roland00 - 10/01/2019 04:33:06 PM 372 Views
Roland, you are talking around the point....not answering the point. Jeordam - 10/01/2019 07:05:05 PM 341 Views
The end justifies the means. / But what if there never is an end? / All we have is means. Roland00 - 10/01/2019 07:32:09 PM 355 Views
Re: The end justifies the means. / But what if there never is an end? / All we have is means. Jeordam - 10/01/2019 07:36:25 PM 346 Views
Why do I need to listen to Pelosi, why do I need to listen to Trump? Why those specific 2 people *NM* Roland00 - 10/01/2019 08:04:03 PM 158 Views
And actually, can I toss this into the ring.... Jeordam - 10/01/2019 07:10:12 PM 329 Views
Different concepts Roland00 - 10/01/2019 08:03:09 PM 348 Views
This focus on what to do about illegals already here is a tangent and not the point. damookster - 10/01/2019 08:24:45 PM 339 Views
The wall will not solve the problem of the people already here, nor will it prevent Roland00 - 10/01/2019 08:59:14 PM 353 Views
as I already stated in my reply to Greg... damookster - 10/01/2019 09:14:32 PM 335 Views
Exactly! Jeordam - 10/01/2019 10:23:27 PM 349 Views
This is simultaneously a Troll comment and an Earnest one. Roland00 - 11/01/2019 01:29:28 AM 359 Views
And what you just said is hyperbole Jeordam - 11/01/2019 06:01:23 PM 357 Views
It is a complex problem. Roland00 - 10/01/2019 11:44:47 PM 335 Views
Just putting this out there.... Jeordam - 10/01/2019 11:53:36 PM 354 Views
I absolutely agree with you that there are many far more significant issues damookster - 11/01/2019 02:41:32 AM 354 Views
Walks over to Mookie's lawn with an unopened bottle of Titos in his right hand. Roland00 - 11/01/2019 05:45:28 PM 334 Views
I would like that. damookster - 11/01/2019 06:07:32 PM 330 Views
As it should be Roland00 - 11/01/2019 07:13:49 PM 330 Views
They may not be the same... Jeordam - 10/01/2019 10:28:46 PM 333 Views
To legal outsiders it looks like a distinction without a difference Roland00 - 10/01/2019 10:56:43 PM 318 Views
I'm glad you recognized it. Jeordam - 10/01/2019 11:12:24 PM 349 Views
Are we under the belief... Jeordam - 09/01/2019 05:56:57 PM 350 Views
Not currently... fionwe1987 - 09/01/2019 07:23:43 PM 340 Views
So then no. Jeordam - 09/01/2019 10:30:49 PM 336 Views
I didn't watch it... Jeordam - 09/01/2019 04:41:23 PM 374 Views
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