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Trying to assign ethics to this is what makes this in a lose lose situation. Roland00 Send a noteboard - 18/01/2019 11:17:07 PM

Trying to assign ethics to this is what makes this in a lose / lose situation.

No matter the outcome it is lose / lose, but by turning this into a Nash Equilibrium (the most famous of which is the metaphor of the Prisoner's Dilemma) it "traps" the players into this lose / lose narrative even more tightly. The group always loses even if individual players may win.

How does it turn into a Nash Equilibrium? It is when you enter a game theory mindset, a sport spectator mindset, and you hash out in your head all the options, and your opponent does the same, and both of you realize you two are adversaries and there can only be one winner, and this in turn cause your entire mindset to change, it causes you to stick to your guns even more so.

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For about five minutes just now, I found myself thinking something very unusual... Legolas - 17/01/2019 08:40:46 PM 1346 Views
The second link doesn't work. *NM* damookster - 17/01/2019 09:23:02 PM 302 Views
Thanks, it should work now. *NM* Legolas - 17/01/2019 09:30:18 PM 275 Views
I guess it depends on how you look at it.... Jeordam - 17/01/2019 09:46:30 PM 584 Views
I'd have to bet on Pelosi there. Legolas - 17/01/2019 10:23:38 PM 743 Views
They're both disgusting... TyrReborn - 18/01/2019 02:38:55 AM 565 Views
The game "itself" (politics) is disgusting... Roland00 - 18/01/2019 02:47:52 AM 582 Views
But Trump can deliver the State of the Union from the Oval Office if he wants to Tom - 18/01/2019 03:58:08 AM 616 Views
Head deep up Trump's ass, I see fionwe1987 - 18/01/2019 06:54:50 AM 581 Views
Presidents between Adams (1800) to Wilson (1913) delivered a written copy of the SOTU Roland00 - 18/01/2019 02:28:55 PM 861 Views
That's interesting. I wasn't aware of that. Tom - 18/01/2019 06:39:46 PM 590 Views
It can't just be delivered to the Senate. fionwe1987 - 18/01/2019 08:18:56 PM 599 Views
Just use the Senate..... Anonymous2000 - 18/01/2019 08:18:07 PM 585 Views
Sure. The President can give it in the Senate and send the House a written transcript. Tom - 20/01/2019 06:31:48 PM 573 Views
It's could have been decent countermove fionwe1987 - 18/01/2019 06:58:14 AM 658 Views
Re: It's could have been decent countermove TyrReborn - 18/01/2019 06:12:53 PM 586 Views
True enough. fionwe1987 - 18/01/2019 08:19:43 PM 642 Views
you are probably correct thay it wouldn't have been covered, the media is that biased *NM* random thoughts - 18/01/2019 08:52:41 PM 292 Views
Biased against what? fionwe1987 - 18/01/2019 09:38:22 PM 563 Views
The speaker of the house leaving the country during a government shutdown? random thoughts - 21/01/2019 07:25:32 PM 570 Views
That has to do with where she was going, I'd think fionwe1987 - 21/01/2019 08:10:35 PM 828 Views
Sorry but hiding behind the troops doesn't fly random thoughts - 22/01/2019 12:59:40 PM 570 Views
I kind of agree. Legolas - 21/01/2019 08:35:01 PM 669 Views
One thing to consider .. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2019 12:22:25 AM 637 Views
Once the pain hits enough people the blame shield will get thin random thoughts - 22/01/2019 01:20:42 PM 565 Views
The Dems may be over playing theri hands in the blame game random thoughts - 22/01/2019 01:18:20 PM 695 Views
So what about the second link disgust you? random thoughts - 18/01/2019 12:55:34 PM 575 Views
An aspect of this I hadn't thought about fionwe1987 - 18/01/2019 09:49:24 PM 586 Views
That's kind of like saying.... Jeordam - 18/01/2019 11:05:22 PM 521 Views
Trying to assign ethics to this is what makes this in a lose lose situation. Roland00 - 18/01/2019 11:17:07 PM 552 Views
what I find most problematic about the proposed wall damookster - 19/01/2019 12:24:30 AM 606 Views
That's... weird aerocontrols - 19/01/2019 07:29:32 PM 645 Views
apparently the government prevailed in other states, so there's precedent. damookster - 19/01/2019 07:57:48 PM 574 Views
Fuck 'em Cannoli - 19/01/2019 11:19:25 PM 612 Views
Fuck the histrionics dumbass fionwe1987 - 20/01/2019 03:26:31 AM 583 Views
Wow. Nargs - 21/01/2019 05:08:28 PM 588 Views
They'd tie up the amount of money owed, maybe. Not the taking. Ghavrel - 24/01/2019 04:41:39 AM 640 Views
Sorry, it is not. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2019 07:21:44 AM 568 Views
The wall won't work and the democrats are willing to shutdown the government to not have to prove it random thoughts - 21/01/2019 01:18:23 PM 545 Views
Wow. Nargs - 21/01/2019 05:14:11 PM 576 Views
That's it. You convinced me. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2019 05:51:23 PM 591 Views
Wow. Nargs - 24/01/2019 06:14:15 AM 551 Views
Why are you so angry? Jeordam - 22/01/2019 10:29:51 PM 561 Views
It IS kinda striking Nargs - 24/01/2019 06:21:14 AM 515 Views
Takification - like... to make tacky? *NM* aerocontrols - 19/01/2019 07:33:44 PM 277 Views
if anyone would know it should be you damookster - 19/01/2019 08:05:03 PM 647 Views
I don't really work in manufacturing, but yeah aerocontrols - 20/01/2019 04:32:33 PM 664 Views
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