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Trying to assign ethics to this is what makes this in a lose lose situation. Roland00 Send a noteboard - 18/01/2019 11:17:07 PM

Trying to assign ethics to this is what makes this in a lose / lose situation.

No matter the outcome it is lose / lose, but by turning this into a Nash Equilibrium (the most famous of which is the metaphor of the Prisoner's Dilemma) it "traps" the players into this lose / lose narrative even more tightly. The group always loses even if individual players may win.

How does it turn into a Nash Equilibrium? It is when you enter a game theory mindset, a sport spectator mindset, and you hash out in your head all the options, and your opponent does the same, and both of you realize you two are adversaries and there can only be one winner, and this in turn cause your entire mindset to change, it causes you to stick to your guns even more so.

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For about five minutes just now, I found myself thinking something very unusual... Legolas - 17/01/2019 08:40:46 PM 1253 Views
The second link doesn't work. *NM* damookster - 17/01/2019 09:23:02 PM 269 Views
Thanks, it should work now. *NM* Legolas - 17/01/2019 09:30:18 PM 237 Views
I guess it depends on how you look at it.... Jeordam - 17/01/2019 09:46:30 PM 517 Views
I'd have to bet on Pelosi there. Legolas - 17/01/2019 10:23:38 PM 685 Views
They're both disgusting... TyrReborn - 18/01/2019 02:38:55 AM 496 Views
The game "itself" (politics) is disgusting... Roland00 - 18/01/2019 02:47:52 AM 506 Views
But Trump can deliver the State of the Union from the Oval Office if he wants to Tom - 18/01/2019 03:58:08 AM 540 Views
Head deep up Trump's ass, I see fionwe1987 - 18/01/2019 06:54:50 AM 502 Views
Presidents between Adams (1800) to Wilson (1913) delivered a written copy of the SOTU Roland00 - 18/01/2019 02:28:55 PM 777 Views
That's interesting. I wasn't aware of that. Tom - 18/01/2019 06:39:46 PM 517 Views
It can't just be delivered to the Senate. fionwe1987 - 18/01/2019 08:18:56 PM 510 Views
Just use the Senate..... Anonymous2000 - 18/01/2019 08:18:07 PM 507 Views
Sure. The President can give it in the Senate and send the House a written transcript. Tom - 20/01/2019 06:31:48 PM 495 Views
It's could have been decent countermove fionwe1987 - 18/01/2019 06:58:14 AM 582 Views
Re: It's could have been decent countermove TyrReborn - 18/01/2019 06:12:53 PM 526 Views
True enough. fionwe1987 - 18/01/2019 08:19:43 PM 571 Views
you are probably correct thay it wouldn't have been covered, the media is that biased *NM* random thoughts - 18/01/2019 08:52:41 PM 259 Views
Biased against what? fionwe1987 - 18/01/2019 09:38:22 PM 496 Views
The speaker of the house leaving the country during a government shutdown? random thoughts - 21/01/2019 07:25:32 PM 498 Views
That has to do with where she was going, I'd think fionwe1987 - 21/01/2019 08:10:35 PM 730 Views
Sorry but hiding behind the troops doesn't fly random thoughts - 22/01/2019 12:59:40 PM 505 Views
I kind of agree. Legolas - 21/01/2019 08:35:01 PM 600 Views
One thing to consider .. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2019 12:22:25 AM 548 Views
Once the pain hits enough people the blame shield will get thin random thoughts - 22/01/2019 01:20:42 PM 496 Views
The Dems may be over playing theri hands in the blame game random thoughts - 22/01/2019 01:18:20 PM 613 Views
So what about the second link disgust you? random thoughts - 18/01/2019 12:55:34 PM 506 Views
An aspect of this I hadn't thought about fionwe1987 - 18/01/2019 09:49:24 PM 519 Views
That's kind of like saying.... Jeordam - 18/01/2019 11:05:22 PM 461 Views
Trying to assign ethics to this is what makes this in a lose lose situation. Roland00 - 18/01/2019 11:17:07 PM 488 Views
what I find most problematic about the proposed wall damookster - 19/01/2019 12:24:30 AM 518 Views
That's... weird aerocontrols - 19/01/2019 07:29:32 PM 569 Views
apparently the government prevailed in other states, so there's precedent. damookster - 19/01/2019 07:57:48 PM 491 Views
Fuck 'em Cannoli - 19/01/2019 11:19:25 PM 527 Views
Fuck the histrionics dumbass fionwe1987 - 20/01/2019 03:26:31 AM 513 Views
Wow. Nargs - 21/01/2019 05:08:28 PM 511 Views
They'd tie up the amount of money owed, maybe. Not the taking. Ghavrel - 24/01/2019 04:41:39 AM 537 Views
Sorry, it is not. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2019 07:21:44 AM 499 Views
The wall won't work and the democrats are willing to shutdown the government to not have to prove it random thoughts - 21/01/2019 01:18:23 PM 456 Views
Wow. Nargs - 21/01/2019 05:14:11 PM 507 Views
That's it. You convinced me. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2019 05:51:23 PM 524 Views
Wow. Nargs - 24/01/2019 06:14:15 AM 483 Views
Why are you so angry? Jeordam - 22/01/2019 10:29:51 PM 492 Views
It IS kinda striking Nargs - 24/01/2019 06:21:14 AM 456 Views
Takification - like... to make tacky? *NM* aerocontrols - 19/01/2019 07:33:44 PM 236 Views
if anyone would know it should be you damookster - 19/01/2019 08:05:03 PM 579 Views
I don't really work in manufacturing, but yeah aerocontrols - 20/01/2019 04:32:33 PM 601 Views
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