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The law is actually even worse than that Tom Send a noteboard - 20/12/2019 06:40:27 AM

By removing any assault on the baby from the criminal code entirely, it means that a non-consensual "abortion" by a third party can only be viewed with respect to what it does to the mother, not the baby.

The case that received a lot of press when the bill was working its way through the depraved NY state legislature was that of Livia Abreu, who was pregnant when her ex-boyfriend attacked and stabbed her in the abdomen multiple times to kill the baby (so he wouldn't have to pay child support). His assault on her is all he can be charged with - the charges that were pending in the criminal case for the harm he did to the baby were thrown out before trial because between the arraignment and the trial, the law passed and his murder of the baby became a non-criminal matter.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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AOC on paid family leave makes what she thinks is a brilliant point. damookster - 14/12/2019 05:29:47 PM 666 Views
Maybe you should go ahead and explain your objection... *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/12/2019 01:00:40 AM 97 Views
For what it's worth, if AOC has kids they should be removed from her presence *NM* Tom - 17/12/2019 05:58:40 AM 104 Views
Tom is calling for an abortion of AOCs kids Roland00 - 17/12/2019 06:34:11 AM 225 Views
Hey now, I respect AOC. I think she should keep her mouth shut cause she's clueless... TyrReborn - 17/12/2019 06:18:58 PM 212 Views
I am sorry but a glib joke about taking someones kid away from them for you just do not like their Roland00 - 17/12/2019 06:36:25 PM 210 Views
Get a grip Roland damookster - 17/12/2019 06:58:01 PM 213 Views
It was a turn of phrase on the word presence Roland00 - 17/12/2019 07:26:52 PM 214 Views
Oh for Chrissakes... damookster - 17/12/2019 07:47:10 PM 213 Views
Oh I am for ridiculing AOC stupidity Roland00 - 17/12/2019 08:10:14 PM 215 Views
HAHAHAHAHA!!! I'm a monster! Mwa-ha-ha-ha-ha! Tom - 17/12/2019 08:27:10 PM 230 Views
Tom should I call CPS to take away your daughter who is in your profile picture? Roland00 - 17/12/2019 08:34:28 PM 215 Views
I'll repeat... The comment isn't stupid if you get physiology fionwe1987 - 17/12/2019 08:52:04 PM 213 Views
I said someone should sell her children, preferably from a big cardboard box *NM* Tom - 18/12/2019 02:49:55 AM 104 Views
I disagree. No one was advocating that. Period. Lighten up. *NM* damookster - 17/12/2019 08:30:43 PM 106 Views
What's wrong with Abortion? How is it different from, say, vaccinations? Cannoli - 19/12/2019 05:07:38 AM 205 Views
speaking of abortion damookster - 19/12/2019 02:05:18 PM 218 Views
Hey, you sexist, white, cishetero, jerk: Her body, her choice! LiterateDog - 19/12/2019 02:39:11 PM 202 Views
Re: you sexist, white, cishetero, jerk damookster - 19/12/2019 03:21:57 PM 219 Views
Oh for fucks sake. There is no abortion when a baby is crowning. fionwe1987 - 20/12/2019 05:27:53 AM 213 Views
I think Tom might know NY law a little better than you. *NM* damookster - 20/12/2019 01:22:39 PM 95 Views
The law is actually even worse than that Tom - 20/12/2019 06:40:27 AM 213 Views
The thing with AOC is the usual problem the Republicans have had the past few years... Legolas - 18/12/2019 12:04:21 AM 221 Views
Wrong Tom - 18/12/2019 04:50:56 PM 224 Views
Hyperbole can count as stupidity too - or you want me to believ he doesn't mean a word of it, ever? Legolas - 18/12/2019 09:35:36 PM 214 Views
I never got the "hyperbole" defense, honestly... fionwe1987 - 19/12/2019 04:00:06 AM 213 Views
The humiliation is the point Roland00 - 19/12/2019 04:16:50 AM 213 Views
WHO HERE IS A TRUMP SUPPORTER OR VOTER?!?! Cannoli - 19/12/2019 05:30:11 AM 216 Views
Tom, for starters. I know you aren't. Not entirely clear on mook's exact position. Legolas - 19/12/2019 07:05:15 PM 213 Views
Re: Tom, for starters. I know you aren't. Not entirely clear on mook's exact position. Cannoli - 19/12/2019 09:48:25 PM 229 Views
But impeachment/inquiries is not legislation Floffe - 20/12/2019 09:54:19 AM 223 Views
So what, you think what Trump did in that phone call and the months after was fine? Legolas - 20/12/2019 05:22:57 PM 192 Views
He could have vetoed the aid, see. So it was ok to secretly withhold it. fionwe1987 - 21/12/2019 04:30:17 AM 160 Views
WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THE PHONE CALL? Tom - 21/12/2019 04:21:59 PM 192 Views
ARE ALL CAPS SUBJECT LINES THE NEW FASHION? MUST HAVE MISSED THE MEMO. Legolas - 23/12/2019 09:49:16 PM 214 Views
Oh fuck off on the caps Tom - 25/12/2019 02:54:42 PM 201 Views
My position? damookster - 19/12/2019 10:07:22 PM 241 Views
The question was whether or not you're a Trump supporter. Cannoli asked. I am. Tom - 20/12/2019 12:09:43 AM 216 Views
Am I? Only indirectly. damookster - 20/12/2019 02:28:25 AM 217 Views
What a load of BS. fionwe1987 - 20/12/2019 05:36:44 AM 211 Views
Please fuck off damookster - 20/12/2019 01:28:10 PM 225 Views
fionwe1987 - 21/12/2019 04:33:11 AM 169 Views
How on earth were Reagan and both Bushes not conservatives? Legolas - 23/12/2019 10:09:03 PM 204 Views
Cannoli has written about this many times and done a better job than I could. damookster - 23/12/2019 11:39:20 PM 210 Views
I would expect statements like that from Cannoli, yes, but not from you. Legolas - 24/12/2019 10:05:49 AM 222 Views
We agree on one point damookster - 24/12/2019 03:26:45 PM 209 Views
Where do you think the support for Trump comes from? Cannoli - 30/12/2019 11:54:33 PM 185 Views
Did you mean Peter? Cannoli - 19/12/2019 04:42:53 AM 213 Views
He means Steve King, Congressman from Iowa. Very controversial guy. *NM* Legolas - 20/12/2019 05:25:10 PM 113 Views
In NJ, Peter King (NY) is the first one that comes to mind. *NM* Cannoli - 30/12/2019 11:22:34 PM 102 Views
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