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Seems indoors with strangers is more a predictor than outdoor protests. Roland00 Send a noteboard - 27/06/2020 02:38:07 AM

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With the size of the demonstrations that have taken place over the killing of George Floyd - over 10,000 people in several cities - will we see a new spike in COVID-19 cases over the next two weeks? And if we don't, does that mean the response to this point has been an overreaction?

I am not going to prove that with this link. But JPMorgan chase has all this credit card data and it seems there is a correlation between restaurants credit card usage and 3 weeks later higher COVID numbers. Likewise more grocery store spending has the opposite effect.

It is paywalled but this is the relevant paragraph from Bloomberg.


That’s according to JPMorgan Chase & Co., which found the level of in-person spending in restaurants three weeks ago was the strongest predictor of where new cases would emerge. Similarly, higher spending in supermarkets indicated a slower spread, suggesting shoppers in those regions may be living more cautiously.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-25/restaurant-spending-predictor-of-virus-spread-chase-data-shows

I am curious if credit cards companies can see whether it is delivery, sit down, or take out with their data.

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I'm curious. damookster - 08/06/2020 06:59:18 PM 1265 Views
Knowledge is always uncertain, there will always be under and overreactions. Roland00 - 08/06/2020 07:06:35 PM 533 Views
I would expect so, yes. *NM* Legolas - 08/06/2020 08:00:59 PM 277 Views
That yes is for which question? Or is it for both? *NM* damookster - 08/06/2020 08:23:06 PM 278 Views
The first one. Otherwise I'd have said no and yes. *NM* Legolas - 08/06/2020 09:19:48 PM 272 Views
Yes, I believe we will... fionwe1987 - 08/06/2020 10:15:30 PM 592 Views
Why are you so invested in either closing down the country or the seriousness of the flu? Cannoli - 09/06/2020 06:37:24 PM 605 Views
Because I care about my fellow human being, cockroach. Go infest somewhere else. I'm done with you. *NM* fionwe1987 - 09/06/2020 08:35:42 PM 286 Views
Except you don't. You really, REALLY want this disease to be worse than it is. Cannoli - 12/06/2020 11:06:50 AM 580 Views
Sure. Anyone who disagrees with you wants mass poverty or mass death. No other possibility exists... fionwe1987 - 12/06/2020 02:44:08 PM 560 Views
Fionwe same as other alt-left crazies Nargs - 16/06/2020 05:24:12 PM 607 Views
I dunno what's "alt" about it. We're the mainstream. Which must scare you fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 06:06:44 PM 517 Views
Dissonance Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:02:08 PM 519 Views
Do you think it's possible to disagree, even vehemently damookster - 16/06/2020 08:14:50 PM 579 Views
I'm sure it is, in some conditions. fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 09:43:50 PM 583 Views
I am not a middle aged white man. I'm an old white man. damookster - 16/06/2020 06:15:52 PM 566 Views
Evidence is not on your side, damook *NM* Nargs - 16/06/2020 07:27:39 PM 282 Views
Much like... Jeordam - 16/06/2020 07:34:14 PM 593 Views
Statistically Insignificant Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:07:03 PM 521 Views
Stats don't tell the whole story. damookster - 16/06/2020 08:06:17 PM 516 Views
You're right but on race? Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:08:40 PM 566 Views
Yes, you're right. damookster - 16/06/2020 08:17:04 PM 513 Views
You realize that's not a contradiction, right? fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 09:49:56 PM 557 Views
A few points gban007 - 17/06/2020 09:29:15 PM 556 Views
I wasn't going to say it but... Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:17:57 PM 566 Views
Again: you really are a loathsome little ball of slime. Ghavrel - 10/06/2020 02:11:52 AM 535 Views
It's not my world, it's theirs. Cannoli - 12/06/2020 11:13:14 AM 559 Views
Burning down corporate stores and taking their stolen wealth is a moral good. *NM* Ghavrel - 15/06/2020 12:04:52 AM 280 Views
Stolen Wealth? Jeordam - 15/06/2020 04:50:59 PM 557 Views
How does one determine what is Original Sin? Roland00 - 15/06/2020 05:17:37 PM 555 Views
So then.... Jeordam - 15/06/2020 09:59:31 PM 546 Views
I'm uncertain if this is what Ghavrel meant, but I'd assume you don't need proof that slavery... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2020 07:59:07 PM 538 Views
So we're talking about reparations....? Jeordam - 15/06/2020 09:42:37 PM 565 Views
Why must money solve "all" issues? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2020 11:32:05 PM 528 Views
So then money won't... Jeordam - 16/06/2020 06:09:24 PM 584 Views
fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 06:29:59 PM 538 Views
Those aren't codified examples Jeordam - 16/06/2020 07:31:49 PM 545 Views
Well that's some special nonsense fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 09:55:42 PM 548 Views
We're having a discussion...please try and not denigrate me. Jeordam - 17/06/2020 05:26:36 PM 542 Views
But I didn't clearly state I want to denigrate you. You're inferring intent. How's that ok? fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 06:06:28 PM 535 Views
Pain and Death they *actively* choose... Jeordam - 17/06/2020 06:39:13 PM 559 Views
They make no such choice. Which is why they're out there protesting fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 07:00:25 PM 579 Views
Sigh Roland00 - 16/06/2020 08:15:12 PM 531 Views
Nah I just straight up think capitalism is evil. Reparations should be paid, though. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 09:22:46 AM 267 Views
Fair enough. *NM* fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 02:54:11 PM 259 Views
aaah... Jeordam - 16/06/2020 06:10:16 PM 550 Views
Re: Stolen Wealth? Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 09:21:32 AM 523 Views
Rather it should be The State? *NM* damookster - 16/06/2020 12:10:59 PM 260 Views
What is "the State" fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 02:57:34 PM 526 Views
my comment was directed to Ghavrel. damookster - 16/06/2020 04:49:39 PM 521 Views
You shouldn't make assumptions... fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 06:10:02 PM 526 Views
Lemme tell you about this cool thing called syndicalism... *NM* Ghavrel - 17/06/2020 06:46:38 AM 273 Views
There's a lot I like about that... *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 06:07:47 PM 240 Views
Syndicalisme révolutionnaire, peut-être? *NM* damookster - 17/06/2020 06:29:00 PM 240 Views
I'm actually still a reformist, believe it or not. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:29:18 PM 265 Views
Bah *NM* damookster - 18/06/2020 03:36:20 PM 238 Views
I been thinking about the different religious sects of Himboism, suddenly ... Roland00 - 29/06/2020 01:30:09 AM 518 Views
The only state with legitimacy is the Kingdom of Heaven. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 08:57:26 PM 249 Views
Are we talking about the Mormon Sect? Roland00 - 16/06/2020 09:06:14 PM 498 Views
My bad damookster - 16/06/2020 10:20:14 PM 537 Views
In fairness, I usually talk policy goals as a social democrat. Ghavrel - 17/06/2020 12:34:45 AM 542 Views
They The Shrike - 17/06/2020 06:29:35 PM 549 Views
damookster - 17/06/2020 06:40:30 PM 548 Views
I go by she and her, but thank you. <3 *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:45:46 PM 278 Views
I try to be very sensitive to this. damookster - 18/06/2020 03:55:01 PM 543 Views
It means a great deal to me. I can't overstate how much it means to your grandson. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 04:04:53 PM 282 Views
Catholicism by itself is a Performance Arts Piece Roland00 - 18/06/2020 01:17:45 AM 520 Views
A Catholic?! What?! I'm an Episcopalian. Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:45:24 PM 568 Views
No thanks. Not into non-democracies. *NM* The Shrike - 17/06/2020 06:26:29 PM 256 Views
Ah a fellow Devil's Party Member. *NM* Roland00 - 18/06/2020 01:13:37 AM 236 Views
I can empathize with this view, actually, though I no longer hold it. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:47:24 PM 267 Views
That's the debate, isn't it. Jeordam - 16/06/2020 06:16:10 PM 502 Views
Economists have been arguing this for over 400 years. Roland00 - 16/06/2020 08:22:57 PM 531 Views
You could let the market determine that, I guess. Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 08:56:23 PM 522 Views
Because we do not live in Paradise. Jeordam - 17/06/2020 05:36:58 PM 512 Views
Exactly. So the worker should own the means of production with other workers. Ghavrel - 17/06/2020 06:11:21 PM 514 Views
So my question then is.... Jeordam - 17/06/2020 06:46:11 PM 561 Views
Sigh...I just can't not. Roland00 - 18/06/2020 01:20:09 AM 487 Views
You know "talent" in the Bible is explictly referring to money, right? Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:43:11 PM 558 Views
Jesus also said it is easier for a camel to pass though a needle's eye... damookster - 18/06/2020 03:49:43 PM 505 Views
This is true! Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 04:04:16 PM 556 Views
Thou shalt not steal. *NM* The Shrike - 15/06/2020 11:10:34 PM 249 Views
"Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel." *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 09:19:26 AM 255 Views
"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's" *NM* damookster - 16/06/2020 12:13:15 PM 229 Views
Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall. *NM* The Shrike - 16/06/2020 12:15:04 PM 239 Views
"Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you..." *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 10:15:41 PM 264 Views
Is a concern of mine gban007 - 08/06/2020 10:16:09 PM 544 Views
A natural experiment fionwe1987 - 08/06/2020 10:42:34 PM 509 Views
Yes, we probably will. But demonstrators wearing masks are not normal life. Ghavrel - 09/06/2020 07:10:31 AM 552 Views
I'm not sure that's a valid comparison. damookster - 09/06/2020 05:57:31 PM 523 Views
Agreed. These aren't comparable situations. fionwe1987 - 09/06/2020 06:09:27 PM 532 Views
Down South that is called Communism Mookie. Roland00 - 09/06/2020 06:32:06 PM 525 Views
Alabama is down south, right? aerocontrols - 09/06/2020 10:08:15 PM 523 Views
I was comparing it to a control situation of no state action in response to SARS-CoV-2. Ghavrel - 10/06/2020 02:09:19 AM 520 Views
We have all the same rules here in Seattle Bad Ash - 10/06/2020 07:45:59 PM 533 Views
I figured you aerocontrols - 09/06/2020 10:09:36 PM 518 Views
About your original question... fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 09:25:38 PM 551 Views
that is encouraging damookster - 17/06/2020 09:44:10 PM 541 Views
Re: that is encouraging fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 10:10:34 PM 492 Views
Seems indoors with strangers is more a predictor than outdoor protests. Roland00 - 27/06/2020 02:38:07 AM 608 Views
Tips, maybe? fionwe1987 - 27/06/2020 05:10:30 AM 555 Views
Perhaps Roland00 - 27/06/2020 10:19:39 PM 488 Views
A 315 city study, BLM protests did not cause a spike in COVID cases. Roland00 - 27/06/2020 10:19:05 PM 544 Views
Sigh, here is some bad news. Case Reports and a Lab study suggests COVID may cause type 1 diabetes Roland00 - 28/06/2020 06:11:45 AM 498 Views
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