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After all this time, you still can't handle the quoting system? Legolas Send a noteboard - 27/11/2021 09:21:42 PM

View original postThe Perrin's wife arc is absolutely terrible, but I've found Nynaeve to be fine. They've done a good job keeping the core of the character the same but made her less abrasive because I don't think that's going to work as well on screen. It works fine for me.

Nynaeve's character was fine - her storyline was moronic. Whether it's the getting abducted by a Trolloc who just pulls her by her braid, or the way she then escapes from him unscathed, or her suddenly having Lan at swordpoint, or Lan tying her to a tree... In episode 4, it gets a lot better of course, but pity they needed to have so much nonsense before that.
View original postHardly. You just don't see Egwene only through Rand's PoV, on the show. So it's harder to just buy his biased views as the ground truth..Egwene does genuinely have good reason to trust Moiraine more than Rand, in the books. We just don't get her PoV in the first book, so we have to fill in the blanks, which readers without sufficient brain power take to mean she has no reasons. Same with a lot of other stuff, where the show has to change nothing at all to make her "more" sympathetic. All it takes is some critical reading skills.

They're going out of their way to show Egwene as a sympathetic friend - to Rand, to Perrin, to Nynaeve. Fair point about lacking her PoV in the first book, but then it's not so much in the first book that readers dislike her, but later on, I guess mainly from book 4 or 5 onwards.

Whatever critical reading skills one may or may not have, it's pretty clear that Egwene ends up being a very ambitious and rather self-centered person, who isn't much bothered about having to hurt or manipulate her friends as long as it serves her purpose. I do think that there are two main points to be made in her defense there, the first being her traumas from the Seanchan captivity (which, rumour has it, might be dropped from the series entirely) and the second the blatantly sexist way in which such naked ambition is tolerated in male leaders much more than in female ones. So considering all the discussion about just how 'woke' this series is, it would be interesting to see just how they depict Egwene in those later stages - perhaps I'm wrong and they would actually dare to keep her largely unchanged in those respects.

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2 snaps down in a z formation! *NM* - 22/11/2021 12:58:01 PM 395 Views
Respectable Choice - 22/11/2021 01:39:37 AM 683 Views
Ugh. My main goal in life is to NOT be respectable. - 22/11/2021 02:25:52 PM 673 Views
Too bad! - 22/11/2021 02:59:24 PM 622 Views
A reasonable decision. - 22/11/2021 02:15:23 AM 820 Views
But I'm a thoroughly unreasonable person! - 22/11/2021 02:29:45 PM 665 Views
Then start acting like it! - 23/11/2021 07:00:54 PM 826 Views
Sanderson's providing some kind of running commentary... which does contain criticism. - 23/11/2021 07:59:10 PM 666 Views
Yes, I saw his comments on reddit. - 23/11/2021 09:41:33 PM 722 Views
Great read, thanks so much for posting! - 26/11/2021 05:54:06 PM 672 Views
Glad to hear it. - 26/11/2021 07:10:34 AM 799 Views
Good, those changes seem completely unnecessary and pointless. *NM* - 26/11/2021 05:43:39 PM 363 Views
I think the point to remember is, the early episodes were never going to be that great. - 22/11/2021 08:46:33 AM 681 Views
Eh, I think you give them too much slack. - 22/11/2021 02:33:04 PM 692 Views
It's possible I'll agree with that after having seen more episodes... - 22/11/2021 03:04:54 PM 675 Views
That's a big "if'. - 22/11/2021 03:31:11 PM 708 Views
*NM* - 22/11/2021 03:40:45 PM 362 Views
My work here is done! *NM* - 22/11/2021 04:01:43 PM 340 Views
Yes, it is a big 'if'. I guess I'm an optimist? - 22/11/2021 04:17:41 PM 682 Views
Agreed on - - 22/11/2021 05:27:28 PM 697 Views
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I liked the maps too! - 22/11/2021 09:36:09 PM 685 Views
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Via X-Ray --> Bonus Content *NM* - 23/11/2021 02:29:59 PM 358 Views
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Apparently some people need to download the Amazon Prime app to be able to see them. - 23/11/2021 08:22:31 PM 657 Views
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Re: So, doesn't suck nearly as much as some other shows? I can accept that. - 22/11/2021 02:11:57 PM 731 Views
I couldn't possibly disagree more. - 22/11/2021 03:11:32 PM 681 Views
#Justice4AbellCauthon - 22/11/2021 03:32:41 PM 712 Views
I'm kind of happy for you. - 22/11/2021 02:37:46 PM 644 Views
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The problem with the show is - 22/11/2021 03:10:17 PM 707 Views
Well said! *NM* - 22/11/2021 03:17:18 PM 408 Views
Girl, you ain't lyin' with any of that. *NM* - 22/11/2021 03:23:42 PM 344 Views
I covered a lot of this in my reply to Joe above. - 22/11/2021 04:36:38 PM 677 Views
Re: I covered a lot of this in my reply to Joe above. - 22/11/2021 05:24:38 PM 692 Views
Re: I covered a lot of this in my reply to Joe above. - 22/11/2021 10:05:32 PM 668 Views
Just came across a related article... - 23/11/2021 06:23:31 PM 717 Views
Madden's read to book 11, apparently - 24/11/2021 02:57:46 AM 661 Views
Oh has she? Must've changed her mind since the earlier interview, then... and read quickly. - 24/11/2021 08:17:24 AM 706 Views
Re: Oh has she? Must've changed her mind since the earlier interview, then... and read quickly. - 26/11/2021 10:44:58 PM 648 Views
Let’s see if I got this right… - 27/11/2021 12:58:52 AM 677 Views
That about sums it up, yeah! *NM* - 27/11/2021 03:38:18 PM 335 Views
After all this time, you still can't handle the quoting system? - 27/11/2021 09:21:42 PM 665 Views
And they screwed that up so far! GOT..... - 23/11/2021 01:19:19 AM 609 Views
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For my favorite well read pooch - 22/11/2021 05:03:55 PM 769 Views
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Wow, my paisan’ makes an appearance! Long time no talk, my friend. *NM* - 22/11/2021 06:36:54 PM 351 Views
Yeah it's been a while. - 22/11/2021 06:58:47 PM 647 Views
I don't understand this take - 22/11/2021 07:02:12 PM 713 Views
Re: I don't understand this take - 22/11/2021 07:15:42 PM 703 Views
the opening bothered me a little as well. - 22/11/2021 07:25:20 PM 675 Views
Re: the opening bothered me a little as well. - 23/11/2021 06:29:25 PM 711 Views
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Saidin and Saidar are in the show - 24/11/2021 03:00:50 AM 646 Views
According to the Dragonmount YouTube review as of the end of episode 6 it’s still just One Power *NM* - 24/11/2021 04:34:32 AM 317 Views
Episode 4 makes it pretty clear - 26/11/2021 10:40:07 PM 651 Views
Fair enough - 24/11/2021 09:02:50 AM 697 Views
I interpreted it differently - 23/11/2021 06:23:56 PM 724 Views
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With regards to the pacing - 24/11/2021 07:29:36 AM 647 Views

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