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After all this time, you still can't handle the quoting system? Legolas Send a noteboard - 27/11/2021 09:21:42 PM

View original postThe Perrin's wife arc is absolutely terrible, but I've found Nynaeve to be fine. They've done a good job keeping the core of the character the same but made her less abrasive because I don't think that's going to work as well on screen. It works fine for me.

Nynaeve's character was fine - her storyline was moronic. Whether it's the getting abducted by a Trolloc who just pulls her by her braid, or the way she then escapes from him unscathed, or her suddenly having Lan at swordpoint, or Lan tying her to a tree... In episode 4, it gets a lot better of course, but pity they needed to have so much nonsense before that.
View original postHardly. You just don't see Egwene only through Rand's PoV, on the show. So it's harder to just buy his biased views as the ground truth..Egwene does genuinely have good reason to trust Moiraine more than Rand, in the books. We just don't get her PoV in the first book, so we have to fill in the blanks, which readers without sufficient brain power take to mean she has no reasons. Same with a lot of other stuff, where the show has to change nothing at all to make her "more" sympathetic. All it takes is some critical reading skills.

They're going out of their way to show Egwene as a sympathetic friend - to Rand, to Perrin, to Nynaeve. Fair point about lacking her PoV in the first book, but then it's not so much in the first book that readers dislike her, but later on, I guess mainly from book 4 or 5 onwards.

Whatever critical reading skills one may or may not have, it's pretty clear that Egwene ends up being a very ambitious and rather self-centered person, who isn't much bothered about having to hurt or manipulate her friends as long as it serves her purpose. I do think that there are two main points to be made in her defense there, the first being her traumas from the Seanchan captivity (which, rumour has it, might be dropped from the series entirely) and the second the blatantly sexist way in which such naked ambition is tolerated in male leaders much more than in female ones. So considering all the discussion about just how 'woke' this series is, it would be interesting to see just how they depict Egwene in those later stages - perhaps I'm wrong and they would actually dare to keep her largely unchanged in those respects.

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Respectable Choice - 22/11/2021 01:39:37 AM 296 Views
Ugh. My main goal in life is to NOT be respectable. - 22/11/2021 02:25:52 PM 268 Views
Too bad! - 22/11/2021 02:59:24 PM 249 Views
A reasonable decision. - 22/11/2021 02:15:23 AM 395 Views
But I'm a thoroughly unreasonable person! - 22/11/2021 02:29:45 PM 266 Views
Then start acting like it! - 23/11/2021 07:00:54 PM 363 Views
Sanderson's providing some kind of running commentary... which does contain criticism. - 23/11/2021 07:59:10 PM 267 Views
Yes, I saw his comments on reddit. - 23/11/2021 09:41:33 PM 308 Views
Great read, thanks so much for posting! - 26/11/2021 05:54:06 PM 282 Views
Glad to hear it. - 26/11/2021 07:10:34 AM 342 Views
Good, those changes seem completely unnecessary and pointless. *NM* - 26/11/2021 05:43:39 PM 162 Views
I think the point to remember is, the early episodes were never going to be that great. - 22/11/2021 08:46:33 AM 291 Views
Eh, I think you give them too much slack. - 22/11/2021 02:33:04 PM 273 Views
It's possible I'll agree with that after having seen more episodes... - 22/11/2021 03:04:54 PM 276 Views
That's a big "if'. - 22/11/2021 03:31:11 PM 273 Views
*NM* - 22/11/2021 03:40:45 PM 152 Views
My work here is done! *NM* - 22/11/2021 04:01:43 PM 155 Views
Yes, it is a big 'if'. I guess I'm an optimist? - 22/11/2021 04:17:41 PM 262 Views
Agreed on - - 22/11/2021 05:27:28 PM 281 Views
Yes - neat addition, I thought, as is the map with the comments. - 22/11/2021 08:37:19 PM 259 Views
I liked the maps too! - 22/11/2021 09:36:09 PM 267 Views
Where are the extras ? :o *NM* - 23/11/2021 05:42:40 AM 151 Views
Via X-Ray --> Bonus Content *NM* - 23/11/2021 02:29:59 PM 152 Views
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Apparently some people need to download the Amazon Prime app to be able to see them. - 23/11/2021 08:22:31 PM 241 Views
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I couldn't possibly disagree more. - 22/11/2021 03:11:32 PM 282 Views
#Justice4AbellCauthon - 22/11/2021 03:32:41 PM 294 Views
I'm kind of happy for you. - 22/11/2021 02:37:46 PM 247 Views
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The problem with the show is - 22/11/2021 03:10:17 PM 297 Views
Well said! *NM* - 22/11/2021 03:17:18 PM 180 Views
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I covered a lot of this in my reply to Joe above. - 22/11/2021 04:36:38 PM 265 Views
Re: I covered a lot of this in my reply to Joe above. - 22/11/2021 05:24:38 PM 263 Views
Re: I covered a lot of this in my reply to Joe above. - 22/11/2021 10:05:32 PM 250 Views
Just came across a related article... - 23/11/2021 06:23:31 PM 277 Views
Madden's read to book 11, apparently - 24/11/2021 02:57:46 AM 242 Views
Oh has she? Must've changed her mind since the earlier interview, then... and read quickly. - 24/11/2021 08:17:24 AM 270 Views
Re: Oh has she? Must've changed her mind since the earlier interview, then... and read quickly. - 26/11/2021 10:44:58 PM 256 Views
Let’s see if I got this right… - 27/11/2021 12:58:52 AM 255 Views
That about sums it up, yeah! *NM* - 27/11/2021 03:38:18 PM 138 Views
After all this time, you still can't handle the quoting system? - 27/11/2021 09:21:42 PM 226 Views
And they screwed that up so far! GOT..... - 23/11/2021 01:19:19 AM 240 Views
Yeah, what you said. - 05/12/2021 03:02:15 PM 245 Views
For my favorite well read pooch - 22/11/2021 05:03:55 PM 340 Views
I didn't make it more than 2 minutes into episode 1. - 22/11/2021 05:41:56 PM 293 Views
Wow, my paisan’ makes an appearance! Long time no talk, my friend. *NM* - 22/11/2021 06:36:54 PM 153 Views
Yeah it's been a while. - 22/11/2021 06:58:47 PM 247 Views
I don't understand this take - 22/11/2021 07:02:12 PM 302 Views
Re: I don't understand this take - 22/11/2021 07:15:42 PM 261 Views
the opening bothered me a little as well. - 22/11/2021 07:25:20 PM 268 Views
Re: the opening bothered me a little as well. - 23/11/2021 06:29:25 PM 280 Views
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Saidin and Saidar are in the show - 24/11/2021 03:00:50 AM 233 Views
According to the Dragonmount YouTube review as of the end of episode 6 it’s still just One Power *NM* - 24/11/2021 04:34:32 AM 131 Views
Episode 4 makes it pretty clear - 26/11/2021 10:40:07 PM 247 Views
Fair enough - 24/11/2021 09:02:50 AM 266 Views
I interpreted it differently - 23/11/2021 06:23:56 PM 294 Views
Re: I interpreted it differently - 23/11/2021 07:36:31 PM 253 Views
With regards to the pacing - 24/11/2021 07:29:36 AM 242 Views

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