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You're completely right and I hate it. TyrReborn Send a noteboard - 30/05/2022 08:24:29 PM

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Considering the political divide around this point as something that will not be resolved anytime soon, there should be a long term 'temporary' solution.

And I fucking hate it. As much as I support 2A, I also understand the danger posed by "adult" men; I'm fully in support of raising the age for males to purchase semi-auto firearms to 21, or even 25. I emphasize firearms because it's not just long rifles that can cause these travesties.

I don't think that impugns on 2A, personally. Also, waiting periods. Someone who wants a gun for home defense is probably fine with waiting for 3 months. Someone who wants a gun to shoot someone is probably not.

Obviously there are exceptions to every rule, but all we can do is mitigate.



Schools should be fenced and gated with one or two armed guards depending on the size of the school.

In Israel every school and public kindergarten has an armed guard and it's been 30 years since a shooting incident in a school. Just the potential for such a terrible event is enough to ensure public support.
It's not perfect but usually guards are enough to deter potential troublemakers, sending them off to find an easier target.

OTOH most terrorists aren't as well equipped as American homegrown wackos.

In 30 years, every school in the West will have armed guards.


100% and I hate it, but then again there's not much about the modern world I don't.

There's too many of us, and we're letting too many slip through the cracks, and it's undermining the foundations... I don't know the answer.

I just don't know.

This message last edited by TyrReborn on 30/05/2022 at 08:24:57 PM
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If no one else wants to open this can of worms, I guess I’ll have to do it damookster - 26/05/2022 02:07:18 AM 2231 Views
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You're one of those men. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 08:27:53 PM 910 Views
Hypocrisy Roland00 - 26/05/2022 08:42:17 PM 739 Views
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Foreclosure, huh damookster - 26/05/2022 08:48:50 PM 804 Views
My advice is listen to the podcast I linked Dragonsoul *NM* Roland00 - 26/05/2022 09:05:13 PM 407 Views
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Did I trigger you? damookster - 26/05/2022 07:50:02 PM 688 Views
You screaming get off my lawn is inherently causes an urge to egg your house *NM* Roland00 - 26/05/2022 08:05:48 PM 467 Views
~soaks Roland with the jet nozzle as I hose the egg off my front porch~ *NM* damookster - 26/05/2022 08:50:22 PM 391 Views
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I pretty much agree. damookster - 27/05/2022 03:18:38 AM 938 Views
Yep, what Tyr said *NM* Roland00 - 27/05/2022 03:27:33 AM 373 Views
The NY Yankees are now tweeting about guns. Roland00 - 27/05/2022 03:26:45 AM 815 Views
Bah damookster - 27/05/2022 04:25:25 AM 846 Views
Baseball twitter is bad Roland00 - 27/05/2022 04:29:15 AM 687 Views
UPDATE on the shooter, Salvador Ramos damookster - 27/05/2022 03:27:59 PM 876 Views
Can't be more of a disgrace than waiting an hour to go in and kill him. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 04:05:58 PM 824 Views
Re: Can't be more of a disgrace than waiting an hour to go in and kill him. damookster - 27/05/2022 04:15:22 PM 775 Views
I disagree. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 10:02:23 PM 731 Views
And if one of the fathers went in and accidentally killed another child and not the shooter? Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:46:17 PM 738 Views
Thats a good point, and something I didn’t consider when I wrote my response. Dragonsoul - 28/05/2022 12:08:48 AM 711 Views
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They already lost their balls. damookster - 27/05/2022 06:52:52 PM 765 Views
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I agree Roland00 - 28/05/2022 12:56:10 AM 734 Views
I haven't said "bAn GuNs!1" Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:33:43 PM 831 Views
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I wasn’t and will not. damookster - 28/05/2022 01:01:59 AM 734 Views
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You did not. My apologies. TyrReborn - 28/05/2022 12:03:43 AM 747 Views
Why not 'harden' all schools and kindergartens with armed guards ? AgentApple - 30/05/2022 03:40:06 PM 799 Views
You're completely right and I hate it. TyrReborn - 30/05/2022 08:24:29 PM 775 Views
Another podcast I enjoyed Roland00 - 27/05/2022 08:26:56 PM 740 Views
This thread is reminiscint of the classic Wotmania debates from the aughts. damookster - 29/05/2022 12:22:47 AM 928 Views
Nobody would like my idea, but personally, I think Korea's 2 year mandatory service would do us good TyrReborn - 30/05/2022 08:30:37 PM 810 Views
Yep there is zero chance that will happen. Roland00 - 31/05/2022 10:32:06 PM 959 Views
Interesting damookster - 31/05/2022 10:56:53 PM 809 Views
Re: Yep there is zero chance that will happen. TyrReborn - 01/06/2022 01:50:37 AM 837 Views
Believe it or not I am not always a Grump Roland00 - 01/06/2022 03:38:16 AM 715 Views
Hot damn, Moolin Rouge was fantastic! *NM* entyti - 01/06/2022 09:36:04 PM 720 Views
What about trans-men entyti - 31/05/2022 10:07:21 PM 864 Views
an intriguing question damookster - 31/05/2022 10:34:39 PM 769 Views
It's all tongue-in-cheek, and isn't that dumb? TyrReborn - 01/06/2022 02:01:04 AM 812 Views
Can the 21 year olds Roland00 - 01/06/2022 03:44:08 AM 755 Views
You know, fair enough. If they're old enough to smoke, and they have a doctor that'll rx it, sure. *NM* TyrReborn - 01/06/2022 03:59:17 AM 414 Views
Something tells me this won't factor in anyone's favor... entyti - 01/06/2022 09:08:31 PM 775 Views
Wait, the *late* conservative Justice Alito? fionwe1987 - 01/06/2022 03:56:19 PM 875 Views
my bad damookster - 01/06/2022 05:09:22 PM 832 Views
The Uvalde Police Department and the Uvalde Independent School District police force are no longer Roland00 - 31/05/2022 11:45:32 PM 792 Views
The Uvalde police incompetence is totally indistinguishable from a cover-up at this point Roland00 - 04/06/2022 07:50:04 PM 868 Views
Until the existing gun laws are actually enforced, I am not willing to entertain any new ones HyogaRott - 09/06/2022 09:55:41 PM 1023 Views
Oh yeah, and I am sick of the hyperbolic gaslighting by both sides HyogaRott - 09/06/2022 10:02:25 PM 895 Views
Anarchy, the State, and UTOPIA ! Roland00 - 10/06/2022 08:25:05 PM 728 Views
It gets darker and darker Roland00 - 22/06/2022 02:10:08 AM 866 Views
It's so bad dude. So bad. Those poor souls... *NM* TyrReborn - 30/06/2022 05:04:56 PM 430 Views
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