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You're completely right and I hate it. TyrReborn Send a noteboard - 30/05/2022 08:24:29 PM

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Considering the political divide around this point as something that will not be resolved anytime soon, there should be a long term 'temporary' solution.

And I fucking hate it. As much as I support 2A, I also understand the danger posed by "adult" men; I'm fully in support of raising the age for males to purchase semi-auto firearms to 21, or even 25. I emphasize firearms because it's not just long rifles that can cause these travesties.

I don't think that impugns on 2A, personally. Also, waiting periods. Someone who wants a gun for home defense is probably fine with waiting for 3 months. Someone who wants a gun to shoot someone is probably not.

Obviously there are exceptions to every rule, but all we can do is mitigate.



Schools should be fenced and gated with one or two armed guards depending on the size of the school.

In Israel every school and public kindergarten has an armed guard and it's been 30 years since a shooting incident in a school. Just the potential for such a terrible event is enough to ensure public support.
It's not perfect but usually guards are enough to deter potential troublemakers, sending them off to find an easier target.

OTOH most terrorists aren't as well equipped as American homegrown wackos.

In 30 years, every school in the West will have armed guards.


100% and I hate it, but then again there's not much about the modern world I don't.

There's too many of us, and we're letting too many slip through the cracks, and it's undermining the foundations... I don't know the answer.

I just don't know.

This message last edited by TyrReborn on 30/05/2022 at 08:24:57 PM
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If no one else wants to open this can of worms, I guess I’ll have to do it damookster - 26/05/2022 02:07:18 AM 2380 Views
Unfortunately, there's not much to say. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 04:26:10 PM 922 Views
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Re: You are not going to get a non emotional discussion about guns, it will never ever be rational Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 08:36:34 PM 960 Views
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Yes Roland00 - 26/05/2022 09:55:14 PM 828 Views
Re: There are so many (partial)-solutions and no single one is going to solve it. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 09:56:23 PM 924 Views
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He said, running away. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 11:34:20 AM 805 Views
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Article VI, Clause II damookster - 27/05/2022 05:17:40 AM 1099 Views
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Lol Parody account confirmed. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 04:04:56 PM 867 Views
Your repertoire of insults needs expansion. Keep trying. fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 04:27:35 PM 783 Views
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As you point out, it isn’t binary at all. damookster - 27/05/2022 09:16:18 PM 883 Views
*NM* Roland00 - 27/05/2022 09:55:28 PM 428 Views
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This is wonderfully meandering and thought-provoking, but woefully insubstantial for understanding. *NM* TyrReborn - 28/05/2022 12:10:04 AM 556 Views
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Re: Oh, fuck off. fionwe1987 - 28/05/2022 06:53:38 AM 830 Views
That's a lot of words to say absolutely nothing. TyrReborn - 28/05/2022 06:56:05 PM 820 Views
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A dead child for freedom is the choice made every abortion. TyrReborn - 30/05/2022 08:16:18 PM 814 Views
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Yes and if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle damookster - 26/05/2022 07:14:08 PM 1117 Views
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Well isn’t this the pot calling the kettle black. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 07:33:12 PM 1054 Views
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You're one of those men. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 08:27:53 PM 1028 Views
Hypocrisy Roland00 - 26/05/2022 08:42:17 PM 797 Views
I don't know whether English is your first language Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 10:00:04 PM 886 Views
Your attempt at mind reading is an abject failure. damookster - 26/05/2022 07:58:07 PM 962 Views
You started with Foreclosure Roland00 - 26/05/2022 08:08:36 PM 906 Views
Foreclosure, huh damookster - 26/05/2022 08:48:50 PM 888 Views
My advice is listen to the podcast I linked Dragonsoul *NM* Roland00 - 26/05/2022 09:05:13 PM 457 Views
One more thing Roland00 - 26/05/2022 07:25:22 PM 856 Views
And I guess this post proves my point, lol. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 07:34:48 PM 808 Views
Did I trigger you? damookster - 26/05/2022 07:50:02 PM 744 Views
You screaming get off my lawn is inherently causes an urge to egg your house *NM* Roland00 - 26/05/2022 08:05:48 PM 540 Views
~soaks Roland with the jet nozzle as I hose the egg off my front porch~ *NM* damookster - 26/05/2022 08:50:22 PM 445 Views
Never owned a gun, but I support gun rights. But... TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 02:51:26 AM 802 Views
I pretty much agree. damookster - 27/05/2022 03:18:38 AM 1070 Views
Yep, what Tyr said *NM* Roland00 - 27/05/2022 03:27:33 AM 408 Views
The NY Yankees are now tweeting about guns. Roland00 - 27/05/2022 03:26:45 AM 916 Views
Bah damookster - 27/05/2022 04:25:25 AM 933 Views
Baseball twitter is bad Roland00 - 27/05/2022 04:29:15 AM 748 Views
UPDATE on the shooter, Salvador Ramos damookster - 27/05/2022 03:27:59 PM 968 Views
Can't be more of a disgrace than waiting an hour to go in and kill him. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 04:05:58 PM 943 Views
Re: Can't be more of a disgrace than waiting an hour to go in and kill him. damookster - 27/05/2022 04:15:22 PM 832 Views
I disagree. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 10:02:23 PM 797 Views
And if one of the fathers went in and accidentally killed another child and not the shooter? Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:46:17 PM 795 Views
Thats a good point, and something I didn’t consider when I wrote my response. Dragonsoul - 28/05/2022 12:08:48 AM 769 Views
Understanding with Madness and all that stuff Roland00 - 28/05/2022 12:50:35 AM 998 Views
It's funny how the left thinks only cops should have guns, but also ACAB. TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 06:15:23 PM 966 Views
They already lost their balls. damookster - 27/05/2022 06:52:52 PM 827 Views
I am glad you protect your family Roland00 - 27/05/2022 08:46:05 PM 879 Views
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I think the presence of visual imagery provides a mimetic response Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:52:32 PM 813 Views
Reasonable, but even then, that's merely another condemnation for the modern world. TyrReborn - 28/05/2022 12:06:30 AM 983 Views
I agree Roland00 - 28/05/2022 12:56:10 AM 796 Views
I haven't said "bAn GuNs!1" Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:33:43 PM 927 Views
This is taken from the late Justice Scalia’s majority opinion in 2008’s DC vs. Heller damookster - 27/05/2022 11:50:40 PM 1061 Views
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I wasn’t and will not. damookster - 28/05/2022 01:01:59 AM 781 Views
We would scare them off that is what Roland00 - 28/05/2022 01:43:11 AM 792 Views
You chose wisely damookster - 28/05/2022 02:59:47 AM 876 Views
You did not. My apologies. TyrReborn - 28/05/2022 12:03:43 AM 805 Views
Why not 'harden' all schools and kindergartens with armed guards ? AgentApple - 30/05/2022 03:40:06 PM 891 Views
You're completely right and I hate it. TyrReborn - 30/05/2022 08:24:29 PM 877 Views
Another podcast I enjoyed Roland00 - 27/05/2022 08:26:56 PM 798 Views
This thread is reminiscint of the classic Wotmania debates from the aughts. damookster - 29/05/2022 12:22:47 AM 1040 Views
Nobody would like my idea, but personally, I think Korea's 2 year mandatory service would do us good TyrReborn - 30/05/2022 08:30:37 PM 900 Views
Yep there is zero chance that will happen. Roland00 - 31/05/2022 10:32:06 PM 1111 Views
Interesting damookster - 31/05/2022 10:56:53 PM 899 Views
Re: Yep there is zero chance that will happen. TyrReborn - 01/06/2022 01:50:37 AM 915 Views
Believe it or not I am not always a Grump Roland00 - 01/06/2022 03:38:16 AM 780 Views
Hot damn, Moolin Rouge was fantastic! *NM* entyti - 01/06/2022 09:36:04 PM 778 Views
What about trans-men entyti - 31/05/2022 10:07:21 PM 976 Views
an intriguing question damookster - 31/05/2022 10:34:39 PM 828 Views
It's all tongue-in-cheek, and isn't that dumb? TyrReborn - 01/06/2022 02:01:04 AM 927 Views
Can the 21 year olds Roland00 - 01/06/2022 03:44:08 AM 818 Views
You know, fair enough. If they're old enough to smoke, and they have a doctor that'll rx it, sure. *NM* TyrReborn - 01/06/2022 03:59:17 AM 470 Views
Something tells me this won't factor in anyone's favor... entyti - 01/06/2022 09:08:31 PM 843 Views
Wait, the *late* conservative Justice Alito? fionwe1987 - 01/06/2022 03:56:19 PM 985 Views
my bad damookster - 01/06/2022 05:09:22 PM 917 Views
The Uvalde Police Department and the Uvalde Independent School District police force are no longer Roland00 - 31/05/2022 11:45:32 PM 852 Views
The Uvalde police incompetence is totally indistinguishable from a cover-up at this point Roland00 - 04/06/2022 07:50:04 PM 947 Views
Until the existing gun laws are actually enforced, I am not willing to entertain any new ones HyogaRott - 09/06/2022 09:55:41 PM 1159 Views
Oh yeah, and I am sick of the hyperbolic gaslighting by both sides HyogaRott - 09/06/2022 10:02:25 PM 989 Views
Anarchy, the State, and UTOPIA ! Roland00 - 10/06/2022 08:25:05 PM 788 Views
It gets darker and darker Roland00 - 22/06/2022 02:10:08 AM 983 Views
It's so bad dude. So bad. Those poor souls... *NM* TyrReborn - 30/06/2022 05:04:56 PM 487 Views
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