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Yes, there are many similarities - and some interesting contrasts too. Legolas Send a noteboard - 12/02/2024 11:33:55 PM

View original postOne must ensure they stay on the good side of The Leader. Im waiting for Trump to die so I can see if the Republican party becomes a true European style populist party (America first, against most immigration, focus on the working class, anti-intellectual, anti globalism).

It's the big question that I dare say many European observers have been wondering about for decades by now - as the Republican party increasingly shifts to being the party of the working poor and the states/regions that feel left out, when (if ever) will it finally tack to the left on economic policy, the way the European 'far right' or perhaps more accurately indeed populist 'right' has done all along? There's a few issues where you kinda see it, mainly the way Trump and his closest followers are happy to veto any kind of entitlement reform without showing the least concern as to how to keep paying for it, but for the most part they are still clinging to the low tax, small government philosophy.

Though of course there are significant differences within Europe on that - the AfD was certainly originally and to some extent still today decidedly right-wing also on economic policy, unlike their older brethren in France, Belgium, the Netherlands, or their eastern neighbours for that matter. And in the UK, as always more directly influenced by the US than continental Europe, there's a bit of everything in the Tories and who the heck knows what Farage's party even stands for anymore, after Brexit.

View original postThe US has gone through periods of isolationism and being anti-immigrant. Thats nothing new. I think the last time was the 1920s. There are interesting ideas that it has to do with American over-involvement in world affairs and reaching a certain threshold for immigrants as part of the US population.

Makes sense. Of course, immigration IS a challenge, you can't just let illegal immigrants keep wandering in uncontrolled, but then again of course you also have to take responsibility for America's contributions to the factors pushing them out of their home countries, and do what you can to fix those. As I recently read about Giorgia Meloni trying to do in Africa - I'd never have voted for her and some of her policies do abhor me, but all in all I still have to admit she's not doing nearly so badly as I was expecting, I certainly respect her more than that ghoul Silvio Berlusconi when he was in charge.

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