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Re: RAFO Mafia 18 - Day 2: Mystery on the High Seas Fox and Ravens Send a noteboard - 15/09/2010 06:23:19 PM
Some oddities from yesterday


*White Flame posted THREE TIMES. What the hell? He was only RBIRL for like three days.


*Napoleon was in favor of just ignoring the Treasure Hunt, as we had no idea whether it would be helpful or hurtful.

And if we pick three out of a hat there is a good chance that ninja will be amongst them. After all... that's kinda what ninjas do. I'm going to hold my vote for now, maybe forever. This may be one of those things that for the good of the town we just let slip for the day.


He then made the point that since we were all voting for ourselves, it would just take a single ninja to vote for someone else to tip the scales.



*Kronin... well, maybe he was just a bit tired for Day 1? Didn't post much, and when he did it was with his "Let's send people we can read easily if they're ninjas" plan (or a dozen posts trying to explain that)

Treasure-Voted for DK, which doesn't necessarily clear him as no one knew quite what Treasure Voting would do. However, I'm more likely to view him as townie than ninja. (But post more!)


*Isaac. It's a minor thing, but his claim that he had no ninjas in his RM started off the whole BlackAdder thing. Granted, BA didn't do a very good job of making himself look innocent (I didn't have many doubts until the end, and by that point I figured it was better to lynch him just in case).

So, no FoS yet, as his actions are entirely consistent with what I've come to expect from Isaac, but it's worth reminding everyone.



*Fox and Ravens...

It's odd, trying to parse the previous day for clues. Looking at the thread as a whole, F&R seems fine. But when you actually focus on him, stuff like

It sounds like you're telling the truth, personally. But Isaac reasoning makes sense too. And i'm still suspicious from before, with the role fishing thing. That whole thing just doesn't make sense. You're roled! Why in the world would you lead the whole town on a wild goose chase? As far as I can see, whatever argument you're making for that point is just moot.

Vote: Black Adder

It's not so much for your RC (although I'm inclined to believe Isaac here) but for what you did earlier. It's just not right and that is blatantly anti-town.


Just kinda rings false to me. Especially from someone who was so understanding of Kronin's slip before.


*Kronin, Kylia, White Flame and Napoleon pretty much stayed out of the BlackAdder debate altogether, and were the ones who didn't vote for him. I'd bet that one or two of them is a ninja (probably one of the ones who were quieter), while one or two ninjas were in the BlackAdder debate, put up a token resistance to make themselves look innocent, and then agreed to vote for BA.


(Or, Isaac is a ninja, Ninja #2 sat out, and Ninja #3 pretended to debate about BA before voting with Isaac)






Anyway, I came away from Day One with a pretty strong anti-Fox and Ravens vibe.

FOS: Fox and Ravens


Finally- do we continue Treasure Voting today?


Those are my thoughts, what about the rest of ya?


Well I dunno what to really say other than for the Kronin situation, he didn't really screw up but just worded his response poorly. I knew what he meant because not only was I thinking the same thing but I was in a very similar situation.

And , assuming BA was telling the truth about his role, his excuse for the all vanilla suggestion was very poor. And I feel it was Day 1 lynchable poor, still. Pretty bad, suggesting something to the town you already know is untrue. That's only a step away from lying to the town. Well, whatever. I've been sticking by this since it first came out and I'll continue to do so.
Go Hokies!

CS/CpE. Yay engineering!
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RAFO Mafia 18 - Day 2: Mystery on the High Seas Fanatic-Templar - 15/09/2010 05:39:03 AM 1801 Views
ARRRRRRR *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 15/09/2010 06:44:52 AM 585 Views
Omg. This reply cracked me up so bad. Fox and Ravens - 15/09/2010 12:34:38 PM 966 Views
Arrrgggh Darth_Katie - 15/09/2010 12:50:18 PM 928 Views
Re: Arrrgggh Isaac - 15/09/2010 01:29:15 PM 1010 Views
plus... Kylia Skydancer - 15/09/2010 01:50:44 PM 900 Views
The grave is no bar to my call!! Darth_Katie - 15/09/2010 06:15:53 PM 934 Views
*giggle* *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 17/09/2010 03:42:33 PM 554 Views
Voting Record Fanatic-Templar - 18/09/2010 05:41:39 AM 905 Views
Vote: Fox and Ravens *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 26/09/2010 09:27:41 PM 576 Views
oops, meant to post that to the main topic. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 26/09/2010 09:31:09 PM 625 Views
they what the what??? Kylia Skydancer - 15/09/2010 08:07:08 AM 879 Views
Moving along Isaac - 15/09/2010 02:47:27 PM 1156 Views
knife hand? *confused* *NM* Yunalesca - 15/09/2010 10:25:01 PM 514 Views
You like being the one to kill people. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 15/09/2010 10:48:56 PM 595 Views
oh *NM* Yunalesca - 15/09/2010 10:59:03 PM 562 Views
Yes Isaac - 16/09/2010 12:47:50 AM 896 Views
Re: Yes Yunalesca - 16/09/2010 01:10:51 AM 984 Views
Re: Yes Isaac - 16/09/2010 01:49:18 AM 1024 Views
Re: RAFO Mafia 18 - Day 2: Mystery on the High Seas beetnemesis - 15/09/2010 04:06:10 PM 953 Views
Re: RAFO Mafia 18 - Day 2: Mystery on the High Seas Fox and Ravens - 15/09/2010 06:23:19 PM 1049 Views
Sorry bout Yesterday. Kronin al'Sulc - 15/09/2010 07:56:22 PM 842 Views
Eh, hindsight is 20/20, but I think we overreacted *NM* beetnemesis - 15/09/2010 09:03:27 PM 592 Views
Haha. Apparantly so...still. I didn't like what he said. *NM* Fox and Ravens - 15/09/2010 10:19:35 PM 591 Views
You're just annoyed that I voted for you! Kylia Skydancer - 17/09/2010 04:06:11 PM 913 Views
my current suspects ranagrande - 15/09/2010 09:52:52 PM 1059 Views
How is that a tactic? *NM* Fox and Ravens - 15/09/2010 10:21:04 PM 537 Views
It's a great tactic ranagrande - 16/09/2010 04:41:38 AM 926 Views
Fair enough. *NM* Fox and Ravens - 16/09/2010 10:28:58 PM 554 Views
Definitely. White Flame has been almost nonexistent. beetnemesis - 15/09/2010 11:23:21 PM 953 Views
yeah, its pretty odd. Yunalesca - 16/09/2010 12:42:01 AM 903 Views
Re: my current suspects Isaac - 16/09/2010 03:31:41 AM 1030 Views
Expanding the list ranagrande - 16/09/2010 05:37:24 AM 980 Views
Sorry All White Flame of Tar Valon - 16/09/2010 10:27:08 PM 899 Views
19? damn beetnemesis - 17/09/2010 03:00:14 AM 1090 Views
Re: 19? damn White Flame of Tar Valon - 17/09/2010 03:40:03 AM 940 Views
Really sorry about the lack of contributions Napoleon62 - 18/09/2010 01:02:13 AM 991 Views
RBIRL Fox and Ravens - 17/09/2010 11:38:33 PM 962 Views
Day 2 EVENT: In High Spirits Fanatic-Templar - 18/09/2010 04:53:47 AM 997 Views
I think 'Aye' is probably the best choice, Vote: Aye Isaac - 18/09/2010 05:24:24 AM 821 Views
I can ranagrande - 18/09/2010 05:35:29 AM 922 Views
There's no REAL downside though... Kronin al'Sulc - 18/09/2010 05:39:29 AM 958 Views
Re: There's no REAL downside though... Kylia Skydancer - 19/09/2010 01:22:48 PM 878 Views
Nay ranagrande - 18/09/2010 05:25:57 AM 963 Views
Can we get an actual reason please? *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 18/09/2010 05:32:35 AM 577 Views
I just posted it in response to Isaac *NM* ranagrande - 18/09/2010 05:36:03 AM 528 Views
Aye *NM* beetnemesis - 18/09/2010 07:51:22 AM 537 Views
Aye *NM* Yunalesca - 18/09/2010 12:09:39 PM 541 Views
I'm going to go with Vote: Aye Napoleon62 - 18/09/2010 02:43:26 PM 921 Views
I'm gonna go with Aye Fox and Ravens - 18/09/2010 04:16:42 PM 949 Views
Vote: Aye! White Flame of Tar Valon - 18/09/2010 06:18:47 PM 953 Views
Any debate? Anyone in favor of Nay? beetnemesis - 18/09/2010 07:53:56 AM 966 Views
The vote has already reached a majority, by the way. Fanatic-Templar - 18/09/2010 08:47:56 PM 884 Views
I'm not for Nay ? - 21/09/2010 01:25:41 AM 891 Views
Oh well too late ? - 21/09/2010 01:27:36 AM 882 Views
Talk Like a Pirate Day be tomorrow. Arrrr. *NM* Darth_Katie - 18/09/2010 08:37:09 PM 520 Views
We need to come up with a plan Isaac - 19/09/2010 05:59:26 AM 946 Views
Well, here's who voted for BA: beetnemesis - 19/09/2010 08:04:26 AM 920 Views
? is the logical target ranagrande - 19/09/2010 08:56:53 AM 910 Views
Re: ? is the logical target White Flame of Tar Valon - 19/09/2010 02:33:53 PM 965 Views
He is, but I think... Isaac - 19/09/2010 03:24:34 PM 938 Views
So what do we do until then? ranagrande - 19/09/2010 11:32:45 PM 945 Views
Re: ? is the logical target ? - 20/09/2010 02:10:49 AM 936 Views
Re: ? is the logical target Fox and Ravens - 20/09/2010 03:14:22 AM 890 Views
Who are your candidates for lynch? beetnemesis - 20/09/2010 03:58:04 AM 928 Views
I don't have any. Especially after my fail of a push for BA Fox and Ravens - 20/09/2010 04:35:23 AM 883 Views
I think I have a plan Isaac - 20/09/2010 06:33:29 AM 1060 Views
...erm... Kylia Skydancer - 20/09/2010 07:37:16 AM 1051 Views
Crypto tricks Isaac - 20/09/2010 10:13:23 AM 973 Views
Also, there's a good chance we ALREADY lynched the cop beetnemesis - 20/09/2010 03:53:49 PM 847 Views
I did notice that... Kylia Skydancer - 21/09/2010 07:50:20 AM 862 Views
I like this idea ranagrande - 20/09/2010 07:59:31 AM 904 Views
one more thing ranagrande - 20/09/2010 05:29:00 PM 851 Views
OK, cool! beetnemesis - 20/09/2010 04:17:50 PM 903 Views
intresting idea. Yunalesca - 20/09/2010 04:50:06 PM 942 Views
Alright, I can get behind this. Kronin al'Sulc - 20/09/2010 06:14:03 PM 817 Views
*confusion* *NM* ? - 21/09/2010 01:32:41 AM 512 Views
Basically, he's suggesting a mass roleclaim beetnemesis - 21/09/2010 06:05:34 AM 881 Views
Okay so I got my code... Kylia Skydancer - 21/09/2010 08:46:16 AM 956 Views
Ok...here goes nothing... Fox and Ravens - 21/09/2010 08:55:57 PM 782 Views
Re: ? is the logical target ? - 21/09/2010 12:34:10 AM 914 Views
Low posting is anti-town Isaac - 20/09/2010 03:42:19 AM 998 Views
Re: Low posting is anti-town ? - 21/09/2010 01:29:21 AM 792 Views
hmm.. Kylia Skydancer - 19/09/2010 01:18:41 PM 931 Views
Some thoughts... Kylia Skydancer - 19/09/2010 01:21:56 PM 841 Views
this is the first time its happened while i've been playing atleast Yunalesca - 19/09/2010 04:52:13 PM 875 Views
guess so. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 20/09/2010 05:55:38 AM 565 Views
It's new, but it's hard to see the downside beetnemesis - 19/09/2010 11:48:35 PM 917 Views
Re: It's new, but it's hard to see the downside Kylia Skydancer - 20/09/2010 05:57:12 AM 945 Views
It looks like we're proceeding with the plan so a few reminders Isaac - 20/09/2010 06:35:21 PM 1000 Views
Hmm. I don't think I did this exactly how you wanted, with the key and whatnot. Kronin al'Sulc - 20/09/2010 06:41:22 PM 938 Views
Re: Hmm. I don't think I did this exactly how you wanted, with the key and whatnot. Isaac - 20/09/2010 07:13:22 PM 916 Views
Lesse, I think I got a minute here. Kronin al'Sulc - 20/09/2010 07:56:48 PM 908 Views
EBWOP: Lessee, redo, class. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 20/09/2010 07:57:09 PM 551 Views
Re: Hmm. I don't think I did this exactly how you wanted, with the key and whatnot. ranagrande - 21/09/2010 12:04:49 AM 883 Views
So if I'm understanding this properly... ? - 21/09/2010 01:38:34 AM 892 Views
That is correct. *NM* ranagrande - 21/09/2010 01:44:37 AM 540 Views
Re: That is correct. White Flame of Tar Valon - 21/09/2010 02:16:30 AM 961 Views
Same here *NM* Fox and Ravens - 21/09/2010 03:34:00 AM 536 Views
im still not clear on the key thing. Yunalesca - 21/09/2010 04:38:53 PM 905 Views
Okay Isaac - 21/09/2010 05:28:23 PM 927 Views
It's mostly so someone can't be super-sneaky beetnemesis - 21/09/2010 07:02:55 PM 902 Views
Re: Okay Yunalesca - 21/09/2010 07:43:39 PM 873 Views
You wanted to hint at it, not say it..... *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 21/09/2010 07:46:10 PM 544 Views
horsefeathers Yunalesca - 21/09/2010 07:55:44 PM 861 Views
It's alright. So long as no one actually tries to decode it. :/ *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 21/09/2010 08:00:17 PM 554 Views
when does that happen again? tomorrow? *NM* Yunalesca - 21/09/2010 08:03:24 PM 531 Views
As soon as our laggers post *NM* Isaac - 21/09/2010 08:07:23 PM 548 Views
I'm glad I'm dead so I don't have to bother with this. *NM* Darth_Katie - 21/09/2010 11:28:46 PM 500 Views
Ghost pirate!! Ahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! Fox and Ravens - 21/09/2010 11:48:56 PM 886 Views
I think the only thing a pirate fears ... Darth_Katie - 22/09/2010 12:45:38 AM 815 Views
It's easy if you're not British *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 21/09/2010 11:59:06 PM 548 Views
but it's fuuuuuun!!!! *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 22/09/2010 08:23:03 AM 628 Views
on a completely different topic... Kylia Skydancer - 21/09/2010 08:58:35 AM 992 Views
List of Codes and Roleclaims (Table) Isaac - 21/09/2010 11:25:37 AM 1046 Views
So I shouldn't code my Role now? *NM* Fox and Ravens - 21/09/2010 01:45:10 PM 490 Views
Of course you should, why wouldn't you? *NM* Isaac - 21/09/2010 01:57:53 PM 592 Views
The very last person need not code, everyone else needs to Isaac - 21/09/2010 02:01:13 PM 849 Views
Oh, I misunderstood. Ok. Fox and Ravens - 21/09/2010 03:10:33 PM 907 Views
Changed-look down ? - 21/09/2010 10:53:21 PM 898 Views
A couple Questions White Flame of Tar Valon - 21/09/2010 08:53:29 PM 900 Views
Re: A couple Questions Fox and Ravens - 21/09/2010 08:57:59 PM 919 Views
Re: A couple Questions White Flame of Tar Valon - 22/09/2010 02:43:21 AM 871 Views
On this whole decryption thing though... Kylia Skydancer - 21/09/2010 10:28:57 PM 997 Views
Well.... Isaac - 21/09/2010 11:05:57 PM 914 Views
Re: Well.... Kylia Skydancer - 22/09/2010 08:30:27 AM 1100 Views
Re: Well.... Isaac - 22/09/2010 02:19:46 PM 935 Views
Any idea when we are gonna start decrypting? ? - 22/09/2010 01:44:39 AM 882 Views
I think it's ASAP beetnemesis - 22/09/2010 04:07:57 AM 942 Views
Hmm ok. ? - 22/09/2010 11:30:55 AM 896 Views
We could do it today no? ? - 22/09/2010 10:57:34 PM 891 Views
Hold on I'm changing my code. ? - 22/09/2010 01:51:01 AM 868 Views
Wait why does it say and between my codes? ? - 22/09/2010 11:00:51 PM 892 Views
Its just a link to both Isaac - 22/09/2010 11:09:17 PM 881 Views
Re: Its just a link to both ? - 22/09/2010 11:24:07 PM 930 Views
For the record, I will decode both, if requested. Kronin al'Sulc - 23/09/2010 04:49:15 AM 937 Views
My previous roleclaim code should be sufficient ranagrande - 22/09/2010 11:30:12 PM 917 Views
what now? Yunalesca - 22/09/2010 09:27:09 PM 831 Views
Napoleon needs to roleclaim now ranagrande - 22/09/2010 09:51:56 PM 959 Views
Are you talking about your "ninja shortlist?" ? - 22/09/2010 11:07:18 PM 906 Views
Arg... REALLY sorry people. Napoleon62 - 23/09/2010 08:16:00 PM 926 Views
You definitely do not get that in eveeeery game ranagrande - 23/09/2010 09:14:46 PM 974 Views
Why is that so suspicious? Kronin al'Sulc - 23/09/2010 10:02:23 PM 907 Views
It's suspicious because it's not true ranagrande - 23/09/2010 10:17:43 PM 972 Views
Cause people tend to accentuate the negative, they seek to form patterns, and they like exaggerating *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 24/09/2010 05:07:13 AM 610 Views
PS: ^This is my decryption. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 24/09/2010 05:11:09 AM 527 Views
Re: You definitely do not get that in eveeeery game Fox and Ravens - 23/09/2010 10:27:31 PM 968 Views
Hmmm... Isaac - 23/09/2010 11:11:21 PM 934 Views
Re: Hmmm... Fox and Ravens - 24/09/2010 03:44:02 AM 910 Views
"I'm roled by not a standard town role" Kronin al'Sulc - 24/09/2010 05:09:27 AM 953 Views
Re: "I'm roled by not a standard town role" Fox and Ravens - 24/09/2010 05:41:11 AM 921 Views
I believe I already mentioned that *NM* Isaac - 24/09/2010 08:37:01 AM 512 Views
I've been playing this game since the wotmania days Napoleon62 - 24/09/2010 02:36:21 AM 1169 Views
To our non-participating friends: Fanatic-Templar - 23/09/2010 05:28:39 AM 935 Views
Everyone can start decrypting now Isaac - 23/09/2010 09:01:24 PM 927 Views
Re: Everyone can start decrypting now ? - 23/09/2010 10:33:08 PM 909 Views
Ok, I'll go ahead and do mine too ranagrande - 23/09/2010 11:16:29 PM 974 Views
Wow that's good. ? - 24/09/2010 12:14:48 AM 856 Views
I was too lazy to verify beyond oxygen and flourine Isaac - 24/09/2010 12:45:09 AM 978 Views
Re: I was too lazy to verify beyond oxygen and flourine ranagrande - 24/09/2010 02:44:11 AM 915 Views
eh, what the heck ranagrande - 24/09/2010 03:04:29 AM 808 Views
Re: eh, what the heck Fox and Ravens - 24/09/2010 03:47:31 AM 740 Views
Just out of curiosity, why do you say townie? RB could just as easily be scum, if not more so. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 24/09/2010 05:13:50 AM 549 Views
Just out of curiosity, why do you say townie? RB could just as easily be scum, if not more so. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 24/09/2010 05:13:51 AM 420 Views
other factors make me think otherwise ranagrande - 24/09/2010 06:07:31 AM 804 Views
A good bit of analysis Isaac - 24/09/2010 09:42:59 AM 1463 Views
Re: A good bit of analysis Fox and Ravens - 24/09/2010 02:34:02 PM 885 Views
right, mine Yunalesca - 24/09/2010 10:37:45 AM 962 Views
Re: right, mine Isaac - 24/09/2010 10:43:26 AM 912 Views
EPWOP Isaac - 24/09/2010 10:55:42 AM 918 Views
Re: EPWOP Yunalesca - 24/09/2010 12:47:47 PM 955 Views
Okay, that squares Isaac - 24/09/2010 01:14:31 PM 890 Views
Re: Okay, that squares Yunalesca - 24/09/2010 01:22:42 PM 969 Views
Re: Okay, that squares Isaac - 24/09/2010 01:30:47 PM 891 Views
fair enough Yunalesca - 24/09/2010 01:58:27 PM 909 Views
Decryption Kylia Skydancer - 25/09/2010 08:00:57 AM 1116 Views
All right Isaac - 25/09/2010 02:02:29 PM 835 Views
Re: All right Kylia Skydancer - 25/09/2010 03:06:00 PM 1043 Views
Re: All right Isaac - 25/09/2010 03:35:23 PM 810 Views
I was lazy... I used the INTERNET beetnemesis - 24/09/2010 06:04:26 AM 806 Views
Re: I was lazy... I used the INTERNET Fox and Ravens - 24/09/2010 02:29:29 PM 878 Views
That is potentially a huge power beetnemesis - 24/09/2010 02:55:05 PM 967 Views
Re: That is potentially a huge power Fox and Ravens - 24/09/2010 03:33:43 PM 919 Views
Role Claim and Action (Table) - All claims in Isaac - 24/09/2010 01:32:53 PM 934 Views
While we're waiting on White Flame Isaac - 25/09/2010 08:59:09 PM 1021 Views
Re: While we're waiting on White Flame White Flame of Tar Valon - 25/09/2010 10:47:47 PM 874 Views
EBWOP White Flame of Tar Valon - 25/09/2010 10:48:31 PM 869 Views
It's probably also worth noting Isaac - 25/09/2010 11:17:19 PM 915 Views
Re: It's probably also worth noting White Flame of Tar Valon - 26/09/2010 12:39:13 AM 946 Views
Re: It's probably also worth noting Isaac - 26/09/2010 01:10:17 AM 889 Views
Re: While we're waiting on White Flame ranagrande - 26/09/2010 02:47:14 AM 941 Views
Vote: Fox and Ravens Isaac - 26/09/2010 03:15:38 AM 983 Views
Eh. The RC's always mess me up Fox and Ravens - 26/09/2010 03:43:54 AM 849 Views
Yes, they can be tricky Isaac - 26/09/2010 04:00:52 AM 874 Views
Re: Yes, they can be tricky Fox and Ravens - 26/09/2010 04:33:40 AM 934 Views
Re: Yes, they can be tricky Isaac - 26/09/2010 04:50:08 AM 907 Views
Re: Yes, they can be tricky ranagrande - 26/09/2010 05:58:11 AM 867 Views
not to mention... Kylia Skydancer - 26/09/2010 04:55:30 AM 928 Views
Re: not to mention... Fox and Ravens - 26/09/2010 05:03:35 AM 920 Views
Re: not to mention... White Flame of Tar Valon - 26/09/2010 03:50:09 PM 1135 Views
Vote: Fox and Ravens *NM* ? - 26/09/2010 02:31:43 PM 568 Views
And what's your reason for this? Fox and Ravens - 26/09/2010 05:50:11 PM 922 Views
When I saw this... ? - 26/09/2010 10:07:08 PM 861 Views
I'll second this motion. Vote: Fox and Ravens *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 26/09/2010 07:13:54 PM 572 Views
I mean can we just lynch him without going through the procedure if he'll just give up? Napoleon62 - 26/09/2010 07:33:38 PM 1061 Views
Somebody want to hammer? Isaac - 26/09/2010 09:02:17 PM 937 Views
Unless somebody vote blocked me or something Isaac - 26/09/2010 09:06:13 PM 1012 Views
nobody admitted to that role, right? Kylia Skydancer - 26/09/2010 09:26:30 PM 959 Views
Oh yeah, missed that. Sorry. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 26/09/2010 10:19:22 PM 543 Views
<b>Vote: Fox and Ravens</b> Fox and Ravens - 26/09/2010 09:11:27 PM 879 Views
EBWOP...aww crap. Oh well. *NM* Fox and Ravens - 26/09/2010 09:11:52 PM 528 Views
Vote: Fox and Ravens *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 26/09/2010 09:30:28 PM 567 Views
Fox and Ravens has been lynched. Fanatic-Templar - 26/09/2010 10:42:10 PM 942 Views
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