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OK, this makes sense. Artsapat Send a noteboard - 07/01/2014 10:07:44 AM

This means either you, or a Watch partner role blocked me during the second night. Fair enough.

The victory conditions also make sense to me, but as you say: there are too many who claim a "No-Lynch" condition, which makes me wonder about the others. The other obvious role would by a Cult, as I have said before.

I agree with your assessment that Stephen's NK must have been personal. It's also how I read the role message when the body was found. But it also means that at least one Vampire was dangerous. Having an NK is not innocent. And if one was, then another may also be dangerous, namely Yuna. Combine this with the explicit mention of something that protects against Undead, and my hunch about a Cult...

I'm holding off voting until I've heard from her. So: please do.

The mystery deepens... I think. *MySmiley*
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Mafia 33: Discworld, Day 4 - A New Soap Isaac - 23/12/2013 02:05:56 PM 2104 Views
I was kind of hoping we had a Watch faction that would take out a Hippo tonight. beetnemesis - 23/12/2013 03:22:57 PM 1414 Views
I targeted a lot of people and don't know against whom I was successful or not. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 23/12/2013 11:47:29 PM 924 Views
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm *NM* beetnemesis - 24/12/2013 07:46:16 AM 856 Views
"a lot of people" and "don't know" the results Artsapat - 24/12/2013 08:03:12 AM 1375 Views
You oughtn't be so surprised. Fanatic-Templar - 24/12/2013 07:22:47 PM 1328 Views
Seems pretty consistent to me Praziquantel - 24/12/2013 07:40:33 PM 1479 Views
...it does? His last hypocop was "Did nothing so I could save Morale" beetnemesis - 24/12/2013 09:51:02 PM 1251 Views
Re: ...it does? His last hypocop was "Did nothing so I could save Morale" Praziquantel - 24/12/2013 10:15:41 PM 1266 Views
Re: Seems pretty consistent to me Fanatic-Templar - 25/12/2013 04:09:14 AM 1341 Views
I'd like to know if you targetted me, as well. beetnemesis - 25/12/2013 02:17:25 PM 1453 Views
Did something happen to you? Fanatic-Templar - 27/12/2013 03:45:20 AM 1344 Views
I believe so beetnemesis - 28/12/2013 12:58:24 AM 1358 Views
Well? Did you target me? I will make a statement immediately upon your answer. beetnemesis - 29/12/2013 03:52:17 AM 1204 Views
Why would I answer? Fanatic-Templar - 29/12/2013 03:59:24 AM 1259 Views
Fine, then. Vote: Yunalesca beetnemesis - 30/12/2013 03:59:03 PM 1294 Views
Hmm ? - 01/01/2014 07:01:52 PM 1267 Views
I know people are reluctant to lynch "nice" vampires beetnemesis - 02/01/2014 02:44:47 PM 1400 Views
On the other hand... Fanatic-Templar - 02/01/2014 06:15:48 PM 1333 Views
...you mean the one Night Kill victim we've had? beetnemesis - 02/01/2014 06:56:38 PM 1272 Views
So soap trumps night kill? Fanatic-Templar - 04/01/2014 07:08:11 AM 1253 Views
Pretty sure I presented three reasons why I felt we should lynch Yuna beetnemesis - 04/01/2014 07:47:39 AM 1424 Views
Re: Pretty sure I presented three reasons why I felt we should lynch Yuna Fanatic-Templar - 04/01/2014 06:58:57 PM 1427 Views
Short and sweet rebuttals beetnemesis - 04/01/2014 07:22:41 PM 1442 Views
My initial reaction... ? - 04/01/2014 10:47:11 PM 1289 Views
I dunno. If he was going to be modkilled, what would be the point of NK'ing him? beetnemesis - 05/01/2014 02:35:42 PM 1186 Views
Re: Short and sweet rebuttals Fanatic-Templar - 05/01/2014 03:37:18 AM 1333 Views
I say that a player likely attacking other players is a higher risk beetnemesis - 05/01/2014 02:37:40 PM 1239 Views
Not by your definition of "attacking", no. Fanatic-Templar - 05/01/2014 06:08:49 PM 1342 Views
Re: Short and sweet rebuttals ranagrande - 06/01/2014 05:24:43 AM 1419 Views
Re: Short and sweet rebuttals Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2014 05:51:20 AM 1356 Views
True, but there is no indication of a different group, is there? *NM* Artsapat - 04/01/2014 07:37:15 PM 839 Views
Hmm. Apparentely my last post was not posted Artsapat - 24/12/2013 07:58:55 AM 1346 Views
Fanatic-Templar - Not Guilty *NM* Bergioyn - 25/12/2013 10:18:51 AM 880 Views
Re: Hmm. Apparentely my last post was not posted Taiga - 25/12/2013 11:11:17 AM 1258 Views
Haha the "hypo" stands for "hypothetical." You're supposed to pretend like you did. *NM* beetnemesis - 25/12/2013 02:15:02 PM 819 Views
At first I was like "Waah?", but then I noticed this... Artsapat - 23/12/2013 09:08:16 PM 1416 Views
Hypocop Table beetnemesis - 25/12/2013 02:21:42 PM 1280 Views
Praziquantel - Not Guilty *NM* ranagrande - 27/12/2013 04:58:14 AM 765 Views
FT not guilty *NM* ? - 27/12/2013 05:06:39 PM 910 Views
Re: Hypocop Table Taiga - 28/12/2013 04:12:15 PM 1432 Views
Bergioyn - Not Guilty Praziquantel - 02/01/2014 04:23:24 PM 1288 Views
Re: Mafia 33: Discworld, Day 4 - A New Soap Sacrilicious Toast - 30/12/2013 10:14:14 AM 1403 Views
Happy New Year! Isaac - 02/01/2014 02:37:51 PM 1314 Views
You too, I'll do my best. *NM* Artsapat - 04/01/2014 07:35:03 PM 779 Views
Alright so hopefully this will get us to start talking/thinking again Praziquantel - 02/01/2014 09:45:23 PM 1635 Views
I'm guessing it's because of the RPS system beetnemesis - 03/01/2014 03:01:06 AM 1321 Views
What is your opinion of my vote towards Yuna? beetnemesis - 03/01/2014 03:04:16 AM 1292 Views
Interesting speculation, but it's not in line with the circumstances of the death scene Artsapat - 04/01/2014 08:50:08 PM 1372 Views
Re: Interesting speculation, but it's not in line with the circumstances of the death scene Taiga - 06/01/2014 12:12:40 PM 1363 Views
Yuna? Do you have any response to my accusation? *NM* beetnemesis - 07/01/2014 12:08:20 AM 763 Views
So, the promised roleclaim (most of it, at least). Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2014 03:48:16 AM 1403 Views
OK, so NOW do you concede that Stephen's NK was from being a vampire? beetnemesis - 07/01/2014 04:29:41 AM 1300 Views
? Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2014 07:38:55 AM 1229 Views
Hell, even if this weren't my own information... Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2014 08:35:33 AM 1379 Views
And furthermore... Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2014 08:41:11 AM 1338 Views
He had to get a NK from SOMEWHERE. And if you're dedicated to eliminating NKs... beetnemesis - 07/01/2014 08:54:38 PM 1423 Views
No. You do know what an individual role is, don't you? Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2014 10:06:16 PM 1362 Views
...what? beetnemesis - 07/01/2014 11:35:33 PM 1279 Views
This is a flawed argument in two entirely separate and divergent ways. Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2014 01:49:27 AM 1275 Views
Any "role" with a Night Kill would be incongruous beetnemesis - 08/01/2014 05:19:34 AM 1371 Views
Re: Any "role" with a Night Kill would be incongruous Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2014 07:25:04 AM 1453 Views
I'm just going off of what you're telling us about the Watch beetnemesis - 08/01/2014 02:17:25 PM 1343 Views
Re: I'm just going off of what you're telling us about the Watch Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2014 06:10:43 PM 1395 Views
The truth is we know nothing about the undead other than one of them had a NK beetnemesis - 08/01/2014 08:41:32 PM 1306 Views
How do you know we even have an undead faction? Bergioyn - 08/01/2014 04:28:16 PM 1162 Views
I don't, true. I know that we have more than one undead, and Stephen's NK was not a Watch ability beetnemesis - 08/01/2014 04:46:42 PM 1247 Views
OK, this makes sense. Artsapat - 07/01/2014 10:07:44 AM 1389 Views
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2014 08:26:15 PM 1272 Views
Oh. Euhm. Wow Artsapat - 08/01/2014 06:39:57 AM 1382 Views
Yeah, that was actually the first thing I asked about during the Night. Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2014 07:33:10 AM 1320 Views
Were you definitely blocked by the Watch? beetnemesis - 08/01/2014 02:45:17 PM 1432 Views
Re: Oh. Euhm. Wow Praziquantel - 08/01/2014 05:43:02 PM 1576 Views
Well I guess this confirms that we have a definitive scum faction. ? - 07/01/2014 10:06:14 PM 1274 Views
Good work, F-T Praziquantel - 08/01/2014 05:40:41 PM 1640 Views
Re: Good work, F-T Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2014 06:09:56 PM 1414 Views
So... you want to lynch me, because I want to lynch scum? beetnemesis - 08/01/2014 08:50:26 PM 1289 Views
This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's Artsapat - 09/01/2014 03:25:02 PM 1332 Views
Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's Fanatic-Templar - 09/01/2014 05:33:39 PM 1347 Views
Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's Artsapat - 09/01/2014 06:42:44 PM 1452 Views
Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's Praziquantel - 10/01/2014 04:38:55 AM 1527 Views
Whaaaaaat. We're not nation-building, here. beetnemesis - 10/01/2014 06:04:16 AM 1397 Views
And why shouldn't they? Praziquantel - 10/01/2014 04:25:21 AM 1577 Views
What if Stephen wasn't the target? Artsapat - 09/01/2014 03:11:38 PM 1336 Views
VNTL/modkill notes - policy Isaac - 11/01/2014 04:29:34 AM 1399 Views
I'll be looking forward to Sunday then. ranagrande - 11/01/2014 05:21:57 AM 1222 Views
Sounds good to me too. Fanatic-Templar - 11/01/2014 05:41:38 AM 1708 Views
Re: Sounds good to me too. Bergioyn - 11/01/2014 10:14:16 AM 1225 Views
Hooray, I can kill people just by wishing! *NM* beetnemesis - 12/01/2014 03:03:49 AM 902 Views
I am certain you will not use that power for evil... *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 12/01/2014 05:09:11 AM 943 Views
RBIRL Taiga - 11/01/2014 07:32:49 AM 1433 Views
Re: VNTL/modkill notes - policy Sacrilicious Toast - 11/01/2014 10:19:41 AM 1398 Views
Re: VNTL/modkill notes - policy Isaac - 11/01/2014 10:25:16 AM 1342 Views
Modkill - Yunalesca Isaac - 12/01/2014 09:04:40 PM 1718 Views
So... Fanatic-Templar - 13/01/2014 12:57:58 AM 1786 Views
Re: So... Taiga - 13/01/2014 07:54:26 AM 1432 Views
EBWOP. Taiga - 13/01/2014 08:00:13 AM 1327 Views
Complicating matters, there are a ton of dwarves that have been born in the city *NM* beetnemesis - 13/01/2014 03:24:06 PM 800 Views
Dwarves and possibly a vampire. ? - 13/01/2014 07:48:09 PM 1334 Views
They're identifiably foreigners. Fanatic-Templar - 13/01/2014 10:05:08 PM 1782 Views
If it helps your analysis any more, I'm satisfied that vampires aren't a threat beetnemesis - 14/01/2014 06:28:38 PM 1709 Views
Not strictly true Artsapat - 14/01/2014 08:55:57 AM 1379 Views
Re: Not strictly true Artsapat - 14/01/2014 09:07:41 AM 1449 Views
I trust Isaac enough to think it was not a mistake. ? - 15/01/2014 02:44:40 AM 1205 Views
This is a reminder that someone stole my necklace and I'm still annoyed about that *NM* beetnemesis - 14/01/2014 06:30:39 PM 981 Views
I'm still annoyed at having my wizard hat stolen too. ranagrande - 15/01/2014 06:43:41 AM 1293 Views
Agreed, there are enough things left open. Artsapat - 15/01/2014 03:24:29 PM 1395 Views
This reminds me: did anybody else get anything stolen? Artsapat - 15/01/2014 03:25:21 PM 1447 Views
Re: This reminds me: did anybody else get anything stolen? Sacrilicious Toast - 15/01/2014 07:59:27 PM 1326 Views
I agree, those are the most likely candidates. beetnemesis - 16/01/2014 02:47:05 PM 1736 Views
Problem with that is that the known characters in this game are all recurrent. Artsapat - 16/01/2014 09:05:38 PM 1428 Views
WIZARD. They're called WIZARDS. GOD *NM* beetnemesis - 17/01/2014 01:59:42 PM 1004 Views
Witches also exist in Discworld. *NM* Bergioyn - 17/01/2014 02:10:24 PM 780 Views
...I suppose. Still, the thought of calling a DW witch a "magician" makes my skin crawl. *NM* beetnemesis - 17/01/2014 05:15:09 PM 1041 Views
Euhm. Yeah. Right. Sorry. Been a while since I read DW... *NM* Artsapat - 19/01/2014 08:37:11 PM 734 Views
Another point of order- no idea who left me feeling drained last night beetnemesis - 16/01/2014 03:04:54 PM 1671 Views
Re: Another point of order- no idea who left me feeling drained last night Sacrilicious Toast - 18/01/2014 03:36:41 PM 1359 Views
Vampire was my interpretation, but the wording was just that I woke up feeling drained beetnemesis - 19/01/2014 06:33:10 PM 1686 Views
Even though we have some discussion, we're still not going forward. Artsapat - 19/01/2014 09:12:56 PM 1307 Views
I really see no reason to believe everybody else loses if the Watch wins. Fanatic-Templar - 19/01/2014 10:07:52 PM 1636 Views
Re: Even though we have some discussion, we're still not going forward. ? - 20/01/2014 02:03:11 PM 1431 Views
I never fully got over the cancelation of Buffy and Angel *NM* beetnemesis - 20/01/2014 04:00:03 PM 1024 Views
Re: Even though we have some discussion, we're still not going forward. ranagrande - 20/01/2014 10:51:15 PM 1362 Views
So... how are things with everybody? Doin good? *NM* beetnemesis - 23/01/2014 03:18:07 PM 1044 Views
Day Deadline Monday Night, the 27th *NM* Isaac - 23/01/2014 03:38:20 PM 927 Views
Day Deadline Monday Night, the 27th *NM* Isaac - 23/01/2014 03:44:34 PM 929 Views
Vote: Praziquantel *NM* ? - 23/01/2014 07:14:04 PM 763 Views
I'm not disagreeing, but what's your reasoning? *NM* beetnemesis - 24/01/2014 03:39:51 PM 939 Views
What's been discussed already. ? - 24/01/2014 11:29:45 PM 1304 Views
Well, you know my reasoning Artsapat - 24/01/2014 10:11:56 PM 1196 Views
And this is what I was waiting for. Fanatic-Templar - 24/01/2014 10:48:16 PM 1733 Views
Vote: Praziquantel ranagrande - 25/01/2014 09:30:54 PM 1277 Views
And here you are again. Fanatic-Templar - 26/01/2014 06:52:21 AM 1638 Views
This is enought for me. Vote:ranagrande *NM* Bergioyn - 26/01/2014 11:38:42 AM 782 Views
I am a little surprised by your strong defense of Praz ? - 26/01/2014 07:18:45 PM 1345 Views
Re: I am a little surprised by your strong defense of Praz Fanatic-Templar - 26/01/2014 10:30:31 PM 1690 Views
Then maybe I misinterpreted this: ? - 26/01/2014 11:37:08 PM 1312 Views
Wait let me try that again... ? - 26/01/2014 11:38:48 PM 1304 Views
Re: Then maybe I misinterpreted this: Fanatic-Templar - 27/01/2014 02:49:59 AM 1590 Views
Okay fair enough. Unvote. *NM* ? - 27/01/2014 03:18:34 AM 831 Views
Hm, I think it might be too late to unvote beetnemesis - 27/01/2014 04:09:24 AM 1641 Views
He's right, I didn't check the time stamps Isaac - 27/01/2014 07:46:46 PM 1719 Views
For what it's worth I completely agree that the lynch is legitimate. Fanatic-Templar - 27/01/2014 09:44:10 PM 1841 Views
For sure. I didn't even check the timing. *NM* ? - 27/01/2014 11:49:32 PM 830 Views
Also something of an issue because his death specifically grants a morale bonus to his lynchers *NM* Isaac - 28/01/2014 12:41:19 AM 932 Views
Can we get an extension? Fanatic-Templar - 26/01/2014 06:56:08 AM 1677 Views
Seconded. *NM* Bergioyn - 26/01/2014 11:39:05 AM 769 Views
granted - I'll leave it a bit non-specific for now *NM* Isaac - 26/01/2014 04:09:00 PM 914 Views
Thank you *NM* ? - 26/01/2014 07:05:45 PM 779 Views
VNTL is 4 at the moment Isaac - 26/01/2014 07:21:53 PM 1797 Views
Vote record Update 1 Isaac - 26/01/2014 07:35:43 PM 1729 Views
FT has also voted for ranagrande. *NM* Bergioyn - 26/01/2014 08:00:37 PM 829 Views
Thanks *NM* Isaac - 26/01/2014 08:02:13 PM 987 Views
I demand blood! Also he's coming off a bit odd. Vote: Praziquantel *NM* beetnemesis - 27/01/2014 02:37:38 AM 956 Views
Praziquantel has been lynched Isaac - 27/01/2014 07:49:45 PM 1695 Views
Twilight has begun Isaac - 28/01/2014 01:07:26 AM 1836 Views
Re: Twilight has begun Fanatic-Templar - 28/01/2014 02:06:39 AM 1787 Views
Ha, cool! In a more active board, it might have been better, but still, neat idea *NM* beetnemesis - 28/01/2014 03:39:41 AM 1013 Views
So, is it taking long because the Watch protected us SO WELL that you're writing an epic message? *NM* beetnemesis - 04/02/2014 06:33:39 PM 1063 Views
The nights have grown as long as the days I think Isaac - 05/02/2014 12:57:11 PM 2173 Views
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