Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's
Praziquantel Send a noteboard - 10/01/2014 04:38:55 AM
View original postIf there is a scum faction, and not just factions, the non-scum will only win when the threat has been eliminated, isn't it? No NK for a few nights still means that the scum is there, so the town can't win. That means that the scum has to be eliminated, for anyone other than the Watch to win. In that I agree with beet.
My victory condition, like FT's, doesn't require me to eliminate anyone. I think a lack of deaths sounds like a state of Peace, which ultimately is what town wants to achieve against scum.
View original postSo I come back to this, Praz: what is your alignment? Your arguments don't hold up unless you're part of the Watch (which is a direct lie from your earlier statement) or your victory conditions are EXACTLY the same as those of the Watch. And that, I find hard to believe.
Like I've said in my other post, I don't see why my victory conditions have to be incompatible with FT's, just because I'm not in the Watch. Supporting no night kills seems like a no-brainer. Is there something in this game mechanic that makes you think we need to kill people at night to win? That sounds like a very mafia-esque victory mechanic to me.
And since you find it "hard to believe" that I can win when there are no deaths at night, the more interesting question is why you can't win without killing at night.
Mafia 33: Discworld, Day 4 - A New Soap
23/12/2013 02:05:56 PM
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I was kind of hoping we had a Watch faction that would take out a Hippo tonight.
23/12/2013 03:22:57 PM
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I targeted a lot of people and don't know against whom I was successful or not. *NM*
23/12/2013 11:47:29 PM
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"a lot of people" and "don't know" the results
24/12/2013 08:03:12 AM
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You oughtn't be so surprised.
24/12/2013 07:22:47 PM
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Seems pretty consistent to me
24/12/2013 07:40:33 PM
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...it does? His last hypocop was "Did nothing so I could save Morale"
24/12/2013 09:51:02 PM
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Re: ...it does? His last hypocop was "Did nothing so I could save Morale"
24/12/2013 10:15:41 PM
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Re: Seems pretty consistent to me
25/12/2013 04:09:14 AM
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I'd like to know if you targetted me, as well.
25/12/2013 02:17:25 PM
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Did something happen to you?
27/12/2013 03:45:20 AM
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Well? Did you target me? I will make a statement immediately upon your answer.
29/12/2013 03:52:17 AM
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Why would I answer?
29/12/2013 03:59:24 AM
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Fine, then. Vote: Yunalesca
30/12/2013 03:59:03 PM
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Hmm
01/01/2014 07:01:52 PM
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I know people are reluctant to lynch "nice" vampires
02/01/2014 02:44:47 PM
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On the other hand...
02/01/2014 06:15:48 PM
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...you mean the one Night Kill victim we've had?
02/01/2014 06:56:38 PM
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So soap trumps night kill?
04/01/2014 07:08:11 AM
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Pretty sure I presented three reasons why I felt we should lynch Yuna
04/01/2014 07:47:39 AM
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Re: Pretty sure I presented three reasons why I felt we should lynch Yuna
04/01/2014 06:58:57 PM
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Short and sweet rebuttals
04/01/2014 07:22:41 PM
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My initial reaction...
04/01/2014 10:47:11 PM
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I dunno. If he was going to be modkilled, what would be the point of NK'ing him?
05/01/2014 02:35:42 PM
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Re: Short and sweet rebuttals
05/01/2014 03:37:18 AM
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I say that a player likely attacking other players is a higher risk
05/01/2014 02:37:40 PM
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True, but there is no indication of a different group, is there? *NM*
04/01/2014 07:37:15 PM
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Hmm. Apparentely my last post was not posted
24/12/2013 07:58:55 AM
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Re: Hmm. Apparentely my last post was not posted
25/12/2013 11:11:17 AM
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Haha the "hypo" stands for "hypothetical." You're supposed to pretend like you did. *NM*
25/12/2013 02:15:02 PM
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Alright so hopefully this will get us to start talking/thinking again
02/01/2014 09:45:23 PM
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Interesting speculation, but it's not in line with the circumstances of the death scene
04/01/2014 08:50:08 PM
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Re: Interesting speculation, but it's not in line with the circumstances of the death scene
06/01/2014 12:12:40 PM
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So, the promised roleclaim (most of it, at least).
07/01/2014 03:48:16 AM
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OK, so NOW do you concede that Stephen's NK was from being a vampire?
07/01/2014 04:29:41 AM
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?
07/01/2014 07:38:55 AM
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Hell, even if this weren't my own information...
07/01/2014 08:35:33 AM
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And furthermore...
07/01/2014 08:41:11 AM
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He had to get a NK from SOMEWHERE. And if you're dedicated to eliminating NKs...
07/01/2014 08:54:38 PM
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No. You do know what an individual role is, don't you?
07/01/2014 10:06:16 PM
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...what?
07/01/2014 11:35:33 PM
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This is a flawed argument in two entirely separate and divergent ways.
08/01/2014 01:49:27 AM
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Any "role" with a Night Kill would be incongruous
08/01/2014 05:19:34 AM
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Re: Any "role" with a Night Kill would be incongruous
08/01/2014 07:25:04 AM
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I'm just going off of what you're telling us about the Watch
08/01/2014 02:17:25 PM
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Re: I'm just going off of what you're telling us about the Watch
08/01/2014 06:10:43 PM
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The truth is we know nothing about the undead other than one of them had a NK
08/01/2014 08:41:32 PM
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How do you know we even have an undead faction?
08/01/2014 04:28:16 PM
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I don't, true. I know that we have more than one undead, and Stephen's NK was not a Watch ability
08/01/2014 04:46:42 PM
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OK, this makes sense.
07/01/2014 10:07:44 AM
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that.
07/01/2014 08:26:15 PM
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Oh. Euhm. Wow
08/01/2014 06:39:57 AM
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Yeah, that was actually the first thing I asked about during the Night.
08/01/2014 07:33:10 AM
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Well I guess this confirms that we have a definitive scum faction.
07/01/2014 10:06:14 PM
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Good work, F-T
08/01/2014 05:40:41 PM
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This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's
09/01/2014 03:25:02 PM
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Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's
09/01/2014 05:33:39 PM
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Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's
09/01/2014 06:42:44 PM
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Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's
10/01/2014 04:38:55 AM
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VNTL/modkill notes - policy
11/01/2014 04:29:34 AM
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I'll be looking forward to Sunday then.
11/01/2014 05:21:57 AM
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Sounds good to me too.
11/01/2014 05:41:38 AM
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Modkill - Yunalesca
12/01/2014 09:04:40 PM
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So...
13/01/2014 12:57:58 AM
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Re: So...
13/01/2014 07:54:26 AM
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EBWOP.
13/01/2014 08:00:13 AM
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Complicating matters, there are a ton of dwarves that have been born in the city *NM*
13/01/2014 03:24:06 PM
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Dwarves and possibly a vampire.
13/01/2014 07:48:09 PM
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They're identifiably foreigners.
13/01/2014 10:05:08 PM
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If it helps your analysis any more, I'm satisfied that vampires aren't a threat
14/01/2014 06:28:38 PM
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Not strictly true
14/01/2014 08:55:57 AM
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This is a reminder that someone stole my necklace and I'm still annoyed about that *NM*
14/01/2014 06:30:39 PM
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This reminds me: did anybody else get anything stolen?
15/01/2014 03:25:21 PM
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Re: This reminds me: did anybody else get anything stolen?
15/01/2014 07:59:27 PM
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I agree, those are the most likely candidates.
16/01/2014 02:47:05 PM
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Problem with that is that the known characters in this game are all recurrent.
16/01/2014 09:05:38 PM
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WIZARD. They're called WIZARDS. GOD *NM*
17/01/2014 01:59:42 PM
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Witches also exist in Discworld. *NM*
17/01/2014 02:10:24 PM
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...I suppose. Still, the thought of calling a DW witch a "magician" makes my skin crawl. *NM*
17/01/2014 05:15:09 PM
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Another point of order- no idea who left me feeling drained last night
16/01/2014 03:04:54 PM
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Re: Another point of order- no idea who left me feeling drained last night
18/01/2014 03:36:41 PM
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Vampire was my interpretation, but the wording was just that I woke up feeling drained
19/01/2014 06:33:10 PM
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Even though we have some discussion, we're still not going forward.
19/01/2014 09:12:56 PM
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I really see no reason to believe everybody else loses if the Watch wins.
19/01/2014 10:07:52 PM
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Re: Even though we have some discussion, we're still not going forward.
20/01/2014 02:03:11 PM
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Re: Even though we have some discussion, we're still not going forward.
20/01/2014 10:51:15 PM
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So... how are things with everybody? Doin good? *NM*
23/01/2014 03:18:07 PM
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Day Deadline Monday Night, the 27th *NM*
23/01/2014 03:44:34 PM
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Vote: Praziquantel *NM*
23/01/2014 07:14:04 PM
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Well, you know my reasoning
24/01/2014 10:11:56 PM
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And this is what I was waiting for.
24/01/2014 10:48:16 PM
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Vote: Praziquantel
25/01/2014 09:30:54 PM
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And here you are again.
26/01/2014 06:52:21 AM
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I am a little surprised by your strong defense of Praz
26/01/2014 07:18:45 PM
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Re: I am a little surprised by your strong defense of Praz
26/01/2014 10:30:31 PM
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Then maybe I misinterpreted this:
26/01/2014 11:37:08 PM
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Re: Then maybe I misinterpreted this:
27/01/2014 02:49:59 AM
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Okay fair enough. Unvote. *NM*
27/01/2014 03:18:34 AM
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Hm, I think it might be too late to unvote
27/01/2014 04:09:24 AM
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He's right, I didn't check the time stamps
27/01/2014 07:46:46 PM
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For what it's worth I completely agree that the lynch is legitimate.
27/01/2014 09:44:10 PM
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Also something of an issue because his death specifically grants a morale bonus to his lynchers *NM*
28/01/2014 12:41:19 AM
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Can we get an extension?
26/01/2014 06:56:08 AM
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Vote record Update 1
26/01/2014 07:35:43 PM
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I demand blood! Also he's coming off a bit odd. Vote: Praziquantel *NM*
27/01/2014 02:37:38 AM
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Twilight has begun
28/01/2014 01:07:26 AM
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Ha, cool! In a more active board, it might have been better, but still, neat idea *NM*
28/01/2014 03:39:41 AM
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So, is it taking long because the Watch protected us SO WELL that you're writing an epic message? *NM*
04/02/2014 06:33:39 PM
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