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Suspension of Disbelief with Politics Dannymac Send a noteboard - 05/01/2010 06:46:53 PM
Work is slow today, so slow that I actually took the time to read Tuesday Morning Quarterback on ESPN.com. Have you ever read that bit? It may be the best named blog on the internet because it invokes the exact image of what it actually portrays, a guy sitting on a couch, covered in the detritus of chips and dip from watching football all day, commenting on the idiocy of those who played the game and, when he has run out of sporting news to pontificate on, turns political and cultural with the same lack of expertise, with a few shots of cheerleaders tossed in to keep his buds interested.

Think Rush Limbaugh crossed with your alcoholic uncle who keeps hitting on waitresses at sports bars, and you'll get the idea.

Anyway, today he took the time to tackle the movie Avatar. It was one of the most ignorant reviews I have ever read. Kinda gave the impression that the movie was An Inconvienient Truth in space, with a bit of commie-leftist American hate thrown in. It is clear that this guy had issues with the political leaning of the movie (Corporate greed bad, militaristic aggression bad) and so decided to throw the whole thing under the bus because of it. And he isn't the only one, nor is Avatar the only example of this happening, (else I would have put this in the Avatar thread.)

This strange need some people seem to have for their entire cultural identity to line up neatly with their ideological identity confuses the hell out of me. I am not a fan of country music... but when the country music community shunned the Dixie Chicks because they were against the War in Iraq I found the whole idea preposterous... if I needed ideological conformity from my music, I could just save myself money and buy a car without a radio.

Lots of Movies and other media have their own little morals, their own leanings. I don't always identify with them. For instance, I highly enjoy the novel Starship Troopers, despite the fact that it would be harder for the novel to be more right wing in ideology, I love the exploration of the characters and the mindset. And much as I despise the Left Behind novels, it is their writing which turned me off, not the theology which is so different from my own.

Even funnier are the occasional allegations that movies like Avatar are anti-American, because all the bad guys are so clearly American themselves. It's like calling the original Star Wars movies anti-British.

Maybe I am just bored and ranting. (Maybe you already cut me off 'cause you don't like my message.) But since such a huge part of movies like Avatar is the Suspension of disbelief, I think a lot of people sabatoge their movie-going experience (and, thus, wasting their own money) by being unable to separate themselves from their own ideologies long enough to enjoy the story.

For those who go so far as to call the movie an attack on THEM, personally... well, I think we may have more of an inkblot situation there than anything else.

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Suspension of Disbelief with Politics - 05/01/2010 06:46:53 PM 1550 Views
Oh I hear ya! - 05/01/2010 08:35:38 PM 783 Views
I don't completely agree, but this is similar to everyone retroactively hating Tom Cruise's movies. - 05/01/2010 08:47:19 PM 818 Views
Which is just as silly, yes. *NM* - 05/01/2010 08:48:55 PM 368 Views
Who hates Top Gun? That movie R0X0RS! *NM* - 07/01/2010 06:19:48 AM 394 Views
You know, I never understood that - 07/01/2010 07:28:36 AM 719 Views
What?? Min Rep is fantastic! *NM* - 07/01/2010 08:19:30 AM 374 Views
*Stands on counter* I am the last Poet Bartender - 07/01/2010 02:08:56 PM 742 Views
LOL...~hands Dannymac a clue~ - 06/01/2010 04:51:43 AM 931 Views
Just judging him based on what he writes... - 06/01/2010 04:17:49 PM 762 Views
the point is... - 06/01/2010 11:25:46 PM 731 Views
talk about needing a clue - 09/01/2010 06:01:14 PM 689 Views
Wait...I support same-sex marriage. Just not all that other crap. - 07/01/2010 06:18:40 AM 719 Views
trespasses against persons is subjective. - 07/01/2010 07:09:22 AM 790 Views
Actually, it isn't. - 07/01/2010 03:46:30 PM 687 Views
ah I wasn't aware you were referring to a legal term - 07/01/2010 05:37:10 PM 751 Views
Considering that it's made-up BS, why should it be? - 09/01/2010 11:01:31 PM 718 Views
what about those not capable of walking away? - 10/01/2010 03:51:10 AM 652 Views
Who has the right to say a parent is abusing the child, and what prevents abuses the other way? - 10/01/2010 09:13:45 AM 880 Views
You are not wrong - 10/01/2010 04:43:55 PM 725 Views
Re: trespasses against persons is subjective. - 09/01/2010 11:12:57 PM 736 Views
but it is wrong to deny the legal ramifications of marriage - 10/01/2010 04:19:02 AM 836 Views
Civics & economics 101 - 10/01/2010 08:47:07 AM 820 Views
okay, I can agree on your points - 10/01/2010 05:14:32 PM 644 Views
That's not Economics 101. That's practically Anarcho-capitalism. - 13/01/2010 11:54:22 PM 688 Views
Duh. - 14/01/2010 03:00:56 AM 685 Views
The existence of that right isn't what I'm arguing. - 18/01/2010 09:01:07 AM 675 Views
Re: The existence of that right isn't what I'm arguing. - 18/01/2010 11:57:33 AM 984 Views
Apaprently I misread your earlier post. Very good points. *NM* - 19/01/2010 01:17:01 AM 352 Views
I'll agree to the trespass against persons - 09/01/2010 06:07:29 PM 747 Views
What bullshit you write. - 10/01/2010 01:30:02 AM 661 Views
uhm...nothing in nature shares with all. - 10/01/2010 05:28:04 AM 708 Views
So what you're saying is people shouldn't take movies to heart ? - 06/01/2010 01:39:21 PM 745 Views
That's just the point. - 06/01/2010 04:15:48 PM 836 Views
Precisely *NM* - 06/01/2010 04:45:58 PM 383 Views
indeed. they are not "soldiers" - 07/01/2010 07:12:32 AM 723 Views
that's a weasel script - 07/01/2010 09:55:13 AM 703 Views
well, it seems like it was less "lazy script writing" - 07/01/2010 05:38:35 PM 701 Views
huh. Well, my hunch would be - 07/01/2010 10:34:35 PM 804 Views
what makes them "look like military"?? - 09/01/2010 06:15:24 PM 768 Views
arguing the natives as terrorists would be a stretch *NM* - 09/01/2010 10:39:13 PM 365 Views
guessing you've seen it by now - 10/01/2010 12:48:57 PM 650 Views
AMEN *NM* - 09/01/2010 06:09:27 PM 345 Views
if the foo shits, wear it *NM* - 09/01/2010 06:08:11 PM 394 Views
I completely disagree with you about Avatar. - 06/01/2010 02:18:22 PM 798 Views
would you have felt better if they were albino aliens? - 07/01/2010 07:16:20 AM 713 Views
You know what it is for me... - 06/01/2010 07:37:10 PM 808 Views
That's understandable - 07/01/2010 07:25:23 AM 692 Views
That's totally what it is, hah - 08/01/2010 08:57:10 AM 820 Views
See...that's where I'm different. - 08/01/2010 03:33:30 PM 692 Views
I suppose the lesson is to not read about celebrities' politics? - 08/01/2010 06:22:10 PM 585 Views
But that's kind of the point... - 08/01/2010 06:51:05 PM 715 Views
Uh oh, you used the "c" word... - 08/01/2010 07:47:40 PM 800 Views
I hate it when you sound like an actual preacher - 08/01/2010 10:03:28 PM 705 Views
Aw, I liked some of those sentences. - 08/01/2010 11:07:15 PM 648 Views
Isn't that a Bible quote? *NM* - 09/01/2010 12:33:51 AM 368 Views
I guess maybe from an epistle? *NM* - 09/01/2010 02:44:36 AM 346 Views
Yup, Romans 8:31 - 09/01/2010 11:36:46 PM 628 Views
it's not that it was bad - 09/01/2010 01:01:21 AM 764 Views
That seems like a pretty dangerous philosophy. - 09/01/2010 06:24:35 AM 789 Views
Agreed. It also sounds absurd. I have +2 Armor of Christ. How about you? *NM* - 10/01/2010 06:42:24 PM 351 Views
he he *NM* - 11/01/2010 12:20:26 AM 320 Views
Maybe a little. - 11/01/2010 06:06:24 AM 800 Views
I like your philosophy. Thanks for sharing! *NM* - 11/01/2010 03:08:09 PM 318 Views
Ok, so apart from political subtexts, - 07/01/2010 05:40:28 AM 776 Views
You have to admire the world building though - 07/01/2010 07:27:13 AM 631 Views
Both of you are more or less right - 08/01/2010 08:59:34 AM 650 Views
He DID write the original screenplay, I thought? - 08/01/2010 10:04:07 PM 675 Views
And why is it that anyone who can <spoilers!> - 08/01/2010 09:03:45 AM 914 Views
Exactly! *Same spoilers ^he^ had. - 08/01/2010 04:59:16 PM 736 Views
You're looking at it from the outsider point of view - 08/01/2010 10:12:15 PM 696 Views
I don't buy it. - 09/01/2010 06:29:07 AM 724 Views
Especially with the warrior tribe mentality they all have! - 10/01/2010 08:25:57 PM 584 Views
if there were all these hotshot warriors trying - 11/01/2010 12:22:19 AM 667 Views
Poor scriptwriting *NM* - 11/01/2010 12:56:24 AM 348 Views
oh come on - 11/01/2010 01:00:40 AM 730 Views
Gher's right. It's Plot convinience, with a capital P *NM* - 13/01/2010 09:42:07 PM 333 Views
Re: Exactly! *Same spoilers ^he^ had. - 09/01/2010 01:27:59 PM 883 Views
It's pretty easy to conquer one of those things - 10/01/2010 08:27:20 PM 880 Views
Re: It's pretty easy to conquer one of those things - 10/01/2010 08:56:38 PM 647 Views
seriously - 11/01/2010 12:23:58 AM 615 Views

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