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It's just simplistic. Like a Disney movie, but no songs. What really bugs me is that the Company beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 08/01/2010 08:48:32 AM
It's not a particularly deep plot. It's freaking gorgeous, and that's about it.


Although, there's a throwaway line in the movie that really sums it up for me. It's when scientist lady is shrieking about how the planet is worth more than just the rocks in it. It's totally, completely true, and the fact that the Company is too stupid to realize that irritates me.

You have found a planet with 1)Sentient lifeforms 2)Flying mountains and 3)ORGANISMS WHICH NATURALLY TELEPATHICALLY COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. ANY of those three represents an unprecedented leap ahead in our understanding of science, and all the Company cares about is the rock underneath!?

Sociology, Psychology, Art, even Theology would all be radically altered by studying the Na'vi (Hey, these aliens act so similar to us in some ways. Is all sentient life similar? Do they all have a God?)

You've found massive rock formations that are lighter than air- so light that they can support entire ecosystems. INSANE. What? How?!

TELEPATHIC INTERFACE. Avatar is set not even 200 years in the future. Obviously there's been some advances in neurotechnology- that's what the Avatar program is, after all. But can the humans control their vehicles with their thoughts? Can they store memories in trees, and share them with each other? Do the humans have anything even remotely close to a semi-sentient PLANET?


Sheesh. And that's not even going to the whole "the cure for AIDS could be in the rainforest" arguments...
I amuse myself.
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Suspension of Disbelief with Politics Dannymac - 05/01/2010 06:46:53 PM 1760 Views
Oh I hear ya! ironclad - 05/01/2010 08:35:38 PM 960 Views
I don't completely agree, but this is similar to everyone retroactively hating Tom Cruise's movies. Zalis - 05/01/2010 08:47:19 PM 1013 Views
Which is just as silly, yes. *NM* ironclad - 05/01/2010 08:48:55 PM 457 Views
Who hates Top Gun? That movie R0X0RS! *NM* Tom - 07/01/2010 06:19:48 AM 482 Views
You know, I never understood that LadyLorraine - 07/01/2010 07:28:36 AM 901 Views
What?? Min Rep is fantastic! *NM* ironclad - 07/01/2010 08:19:30 AM 457 Views
*Stands on counter* I am the last Poet Bartender AgentOrange - 07/01/2010 02:08:56 PM 914 Views
I always thought that was just stupid of people (and that includes 3/4 of my family) imlad - 09/01/2010 05:27:41 PM 896 Views
LOL...~hands Dannymac a clue~ damookster - 06/01/2010 04:51:43 AM 1129 Views
Just judging him based on what he writes... Dannymac - 06/01/2010 04:17:49 PM 943 Views
the point is... damookster - 06/01/2010 11:25:46 PM 908 Views
talk about needing a clue imlad - 09/01/2010 06:01:14 PM 849 Views
Then read what he writes. I read him every week and he IS a liberal. Cannoli - 09/01/2010 11:45:41 PM 875 Views
Wait...I support same-sex marriage. Just not all that other crap. Tom - 07/01/2010 06:18:40 AM 898 Views
trespasses against persons is subjective. LadyLorraine - 07/01/2010 07:09:22 AM 959 Views
Actually, it isn't. Tom - 07/01/2010 03:46:30 PM 862 Views
ah I wasn't aware you were referring to a legal term LadyLorraine - 07/01/2010 05:37:10 PM 924 Views
Considering that it's made-up BS, why should it be? Cannoli - 09/01/2010 11:01:31 PM 892 Views
what about those not capable of walking away? LadyLorraine - 10/01/2010 03:51:10 AM 828 Views
Who has the right to say a parent is abusing the child, and what prevents abuses the other way? Cannoli - 10/01/2010 09:13:45 AM 1096 Views
You are not wrong LadyLorraine - 10/01/2010 04:43:55 PM 897 Views
Re: trespasses against persons is subjective. Cannoli - 09/01/2010 11:12:57 PM 908 Views
but it is wrong to deny the legal ramifications of marriage LadyLorraine - 10/01/2010 04:19:02 AM 1035 Views
Civics & economics 101 Cannoli - 10/01/2010 08:47:07 AM 1023 Views
okay, I can agree on your points LadyLorraine - 10/01/2010 05:14:32 PM 832 Views
That's not Economics 101. That's practically Anarcho-capitalism. Ghavrel - 13/01/2010 11:54:22 PM 860 Views
Duh. Cannoli - 14/01/2010 03:00:56 AM 865 Views
The existence of that right isn't what I'm arguing. Ghavrel - 18/01/2010 09:01:07 AM 854 Views
Re: The existence of that right isn't what I'm arguing. Cannoli - 18/01/2010 11:57:33 AM 1176 Views
Apaprently I misread your earlier post. Very good points. *NM* Ghavrel - 19/01/2010 01:17:01 AM 439 Views
I'll agree to the trespass against persons imlad - 09/01/2010 06:07:29 PM 926 Views
What bullshit you write. Tom - 10/01/2010 01:30:02 AM 833 Views
He's such a parody of himself, one wonders if he's not a fake identity created by rightists. *NM* LiterateDog - 10/01/2010 05:14:31 AM 461 Views
uhm...nothing in nature shares with all. LadyLorraine - 10/01/2010 05:28:04 AM 884 Views
So what you're saying is people shouldn't take movies to heart ? AgentOrange - 06/01/2010 01:39:21 PM 922 Views
That's just the point. Dannymac - 06/01/2010 04:15:48 PM 1032 Views
Precisely *NM* ironclad - 06/01/2010 04:45:58 PM 479 Views
indeed. they are not "soldiers" LadyLorraine - 07/01/2010 07:12:32 AM 914 Views
that's a weasel script AgentOrange - 07/01/2010 09:55:13 AM 875 Views
well, it seems like it was less "lazy script writing" LadyLorraine - 07/01/2010 05:38:35 PM 886 Views
huh. Well, my hunch would be AgentOrange - 07/01/2010 10:34:35 PM 985 Views
what makes them "look like military"?? imlad - 09/01/2010 06:15:24 PM 956 Views
arguing the natives as terrorists would be a stretch *NM* LadyLorraine - 09/01/2010 10:39:13 PM 451 Views
guessing you've seen it by now AgentOrange - 10/01/2010 12:48:57 PM 826 Views
AMEN *NM* imlad - 09/01/2010 06:09:27 PM 432 Views
if the foo shits, wear it *NM* imlad - 09/01/2010 06:08:11 PM 490 Views
I completely disagree with you about Avatar. Tom - 06/01/2010 02:18:22 PM 977 Views
would you have felt better if they were albino aliens? LadyLorraine - 07/01/2010 07:16:20 AM 904 Views
You really have a habit of missing the point of my posts in the name of snide remarks. Tom - 07/01/2010 03:47:36 PM 948 Views
Yes well, it's a habit I picked up from the rest of the posters. LadyLorraine - 07/01/2010 05:41:51 PM 1002 Views
It's just simplistic. Like a Disney movie, but no songs. What really bugs me is that the Company beetnemesis - 08/01/2010 08:48:32 AM 959 Views
Yeah, I liked The Neverending Story better. Tom - 08/01/2010 01:41:37 PM 883 Views
You know what it is for me... Jeordam - 06/01/2010 07:37:10 PM 976 Views
That's understandable LadyLorraine - 07/01/2010 07:25:23 AM 886 Views
That's totally what it is, hah beetnemesis - 08/01/2010 08:57:10 AM 1003 Views
See...that's where I'm different. Jeordam - 08/01/2010 03:33:30 PM 870 Views
I suppose the lesson is to not read about celebrities' politics? beetnemesis - 08/01/2010 06:22:10 PM 770 Views
But that's kind of the point... Jeordam - 08/01/2010 06:51:05 PM 882 Views
Uh oh, you used the "c" word... Dannymac - 08/01/2010 07:47:40 PM 983 Views
I hate it when you sound like an actual preacher LadyLorraine - 08/01/2010 10:03:28 PM 883 Views
Aw, I liked some of those sentences. Ghavrel - 08/01/2010 11:07:15 PM 820 Views
Isn't that a Bible quote? *NM* Legolas - 09/01/2010 12:33:51 AM 455 Views
I guess maybe from an epistle? *NM* Ghavrel - 09/01/2010 02:44:36 AM 441 Views
Yup, Romans 8:31 Darth_Katie - 09/01/2010 11:36:46 PM 810 Views
it's not that it was bad LadyLorraine - 09/01/2010 01:01:21 AM 930 Views
That seems like a pretty dangerous philosophy. Gher - 09/01/2010 06:24:35 AM 957 Views
Agreed. It also sounds absurd. I have +2 Armor of Christ. How about you? *NM* Tom - 10/01/2010 06:42:24 PM 437 Views
he he *NM* LadyLorraine - 11/01/2010 12:20:26 AM 412 Views
Maybe a little. Dannymac - 11/01/2010 06:06:24 AM 984 Views
I like your philosophy. Thanks for sharing! *NM* Darth_Katie - 11/01/2010 03:08:09 PM 413 Views
Ok, so apart from political subtexts, Mad Cow Bomber - 07/01/2010 05:40:28 AM 959 Views
You have to admire the world building though LadyLorraine - 07/01/2010 07:27:13 AM 810 Views
Both of you are more or less right beetnemesis - 08/01/2010 08:59:34 AM 836 Views
He DID write the original screenplay, I thought? LadyLorraine - 08/01/2010 10:04:07 PM 855 Views
And why is it that anyone who can <spoilers!> beetnemesis - 08/01/2010 09:03:45 AM 1093 Views
Exactly! *Same spoilers ^he^ had. Gher - 08/01/2010 04:59:16 PM 899 Views
You're looking at it from the outsider point of view LadyLorraine - 08/01/2010 10:12:15 PM 873 Views
I don't buy it. Gher - 09/01/2010 06:29:07 AM 905 Views
Especially with the warrior tribe mentality they all have! beetnemesis - 10/01/2010 08:25:57 PM 760 Views
if there were all these hotshot warriors trying LadyLorraine - 11/01/2010 12:22:19 AM 843 Views
Poor scriptwriting *NM* Gher - 11/01/2010 12:56:24 AM 440 Views
oh come on LadyLorraine - 11/01/2010 01:00:40 AM 937 Views
Gher's right. It's Plot convinience, with a capital P *NM* AgentOrange - 13/01/2010 09:42:07 PM 421 Views
Re: Exactly! *Same spoilers ^he^ had. ironclad - 09/01/2010 01:27:59 PM 1054 Views
It's pretty easy to conquer one of those things beetnemesis - 10/01/2010 08:27:20 PM 1059 Views
Re: It's pretty easy to conquer one of those things ironclad - 10/01/2010 08:56:38 PM 834 Views
seriously LadyLorraine - 11/01/2010 12:23:58 AM 772 Views
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