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I'm tired of passive story telling. Haggard Send a noteboard - 05/09/2009 08:57:13 PM
Anyone else ever get tired of the action occurring offstage and being forced to learn about it through character monologues after the fact?

It's been happening over the last several books more and more often. The most egregious example was Rand's meeting with Logain. It's the lazy way to tell a story. Rather than write the action as it happens, just let a character remember it.

I was disappointed in the chapter, not because of the writing, nor do I think it is Sanderson's fault, but it was another 6500 words with nothing happening. Why not tell the story of the escape, or Rand's healing, or present some of the questioning scenes?

Flame Away! :)

EDIT: changed "6500 pages" to "6500 words"
*MySmiley*
I'm drinkin' some George Jones,
and a little bit of Coe
Haggard's easin' my misery
and Waylon's keepin' me from home
Hank's givin' me those high times-
Cash is gonna sing it low
I'm here gettin' wasted-
just like my country heroes -Hank III
This message last edited by Haggard on 06/09/2009 at 12:45:38 AM
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For all of those whining about it not sounding like RJ: Narg - 05/09/2009 05:47:07 PM 1926 Views
Agreed. If anything, it's a tribute to RJ Gher - 05/09/2009 06:17:36 PM 1771 Views
You're forgetting one thing. Cannoli - 06/09/2009 12:13:03 AM 1912 Views
And if he were to off Egwene? What would your opinion be? *NM* Ryan - 07/09/2009 05:38:36 AM 940 Views
He dislikes Sanderson's prose. Plot content is irrelevant here. *NM* Marshall - 08/09/2009 06:44:42 PM 1035 Views
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I found it well-written, but rather uninteresting story-wise *NM* ursidae - 05/09/2009 08:04:15 PM 1028 Views
because there should totaly be massive plot development in the first chapter Apsalar Shadowdancer - 05/09/2009 08:29:18 PM 1648 Views
I'm tired of passive story telling. Haggard - 05/09/2009 08:57:13 PM 1604 Views
On the other hand... Haggard - 05/09/2009 08:58:21 PM 1653 Views
Re: I'm tired of passive story telling. CupofDice - 05/09/2009 10:42:57 PM 1544 Views
Which escape? Marshall - 05/09/2009 11:10:01 PM 1568 Views
I'm tired of mindless readers Cannoli - 06/09/2009 01:54:14 AM 1684 Views
Re: I'm tired of mindless readers DomA - 06/09/2009 04:01:56 AM 1840 Views
Your best yet Dom! *NM* NaClH2O - 06/09/2009 02:04:40 PM 982 Views
Re: I'm tired of mindless readers MissKoalaVB - 07/09/2009 04:39:36 AM 1555 Views
Re: I'm tired of mindless readers NaClH2O - 07/09/2009 10:42:29 PM 1544 Views
I was over critical. Haggard - 06/09/2009 04:56:48 AM 1481 Views
A real analyst or literary critic would laugh his ass off to see this... Cannoli - 06/09/2009 06:51:57 AM 1665 Views
It's been happening since Book IV btw. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/09/2009 05:30:52 PM 1342 Views
Re: because there should totaly be massive plot development in the first chapter Cannoli - 06/09/2009 01:22:09 AM 1614 Views
A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) lilltempest - 05/09/2009 09:34:44 PM 1737 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) RandAllThor - 05/09/2009 10:03:59 PM 1753 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) lilltempest - 06/09/2009 03:18:41 AM 1571 Views
I think Lews Therin's comments to Rand were the most hugely significant part of the chapter. Werthead - 06/09/2009 01:15:05 AM 1512 Views
I don't really agree... lilltempest - 06/09/2009 03:50:08 AM 1492 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) Cannoli - 06/09/2009 02:52:47 AM 2149 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) lilltempest - 06/09/2009 07:08:08 AM 1477 Views
Just answer one question... fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 07:53:12 AM 1971 Views
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) lilltempest - 08/09/2009 10:19:13 PM 1525 Views
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) Cannoli - 10/09/2009 06:20:56 AM 1752 Views
On Egwene... fionwe1987 - 10/09/2009 04:33:58 PM 1492 Views
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Nynaeve balefried - 08/09/2009 05:43:43 AM 1599 Views
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) MissKoalaVB - 07/09/2009 04:41:47 AM 1591 Views
Answers, short, long and longer. NaClH2O - 07/09/2009 11:27:53 PM 1515 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) Dominic - 09/09/2009 03:48:53 PM 1543 Views
I think you missed some things. (spoilers) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/09/2009 05:21:43 PM 1280 Views
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Good post, but I have an alternative explanation for the saidin barrier The Angry Druid - 28/09/2009 12:53:41 AM 1327 Views
First thought...a typo! ner vous = nervous. *NM* Marshall - 05/09/2009 09:55:28 PM 972 Views
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six questions and nine statements RabidWombat - 06/09/2009 04:47:52 AM 1548 Views
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Re: Your thoughts on TGS - Chapter 1 gban007 - 06/09/2009 07:30:53 AM 1601 Views
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Some questions... fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 08:04:30 AM 1527 Views
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Re: Some questions... fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 08:53:20 AM 1514 Views
Re: I liked it Fanatic-Templar - 06/09/2009 09:55:41 PM 1513 Views
Theory: Rand and Egwene. What is up? fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 07:59:58 AM 2404 Views
Also AliasRY - 06/09/2009 08:24:45 AM 1530 Views
A simpler answer NaClH2O - 06/09/2009 03:04:04 PM 1588 Views
Really? fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 03:38:59 PM 1455 Views
Look at what he has seen... Cannoli - 06/09/2009 11:45:44 PM 1407 Views
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Why not? How often did he think of Egwene in A Plain Wooden Box? It might have been there already Cannoli - 07/09/2009 05:29:27 AM 1579 Views
She treated him like a pawn when she "passed" him over to Elayne way back. NM *NM* redhand - 07/09/2009 02:49:18 PM 929 Views
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uh Deadsy - 09/09/2009 10:57:17 PM 1488 Views
Timeline? Deadsy - 07/09/2009 05:10:16 AM 1475 Views
Re: Timeline? NaClH2O - 07/09/2009 05:52:50 PM 1470 Views
So what chapter symbol is it going to have? *NM* Cannoli - 07/09/2009 08:09:54 AM 887 Views
the dragon in COT chap 23 ornaments *NM* rosco12 - 07/09/2009 01:28:58 PM 897 Views
The Seanchan are up to something Knightscape - 07/09/2009 10:26:23 AM 1474 Views
Red stone doorway. Bigerich - 07/09/2009 03:27:22 PM 1404 Views
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Ready for More Raforsaken - 08/09/2009 04:25:19 PM 1530 Views
... Seventysix - 08/09/2009 07:24:46 PM 1452 Views
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