Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
Datakim Send a noteboard - 02/06/2010 01:50:49 AM
So I don't think it's something people dread, even if they should. Also, since channeling is considered evil, they would probably never consider that they could possibly be able to do it. It would always be "someone else."
Good point, I forgot about the "positive" aspect of sul'dam. But even so I would expect fear. I mean the whole thing is basically a sort of lottery where you might win big, but you might ALSO be horribly tortured and enslaved for life. I would think the negative part would have to be on your mind at some level. And even sul'dam continue to be tested until 25.
I wonder if it possible for a sparker to first test positive for a sul'dam and then afterwards for the collar itself. I guess it must be given that the testing is done. That would still mean fear and doubt even after you became a sul'dam. More so perhaps since at that point you would actually have seen firsthand what would happen to you. Heck, if you tested positive for channeling as a sul'dam, one would think the chance that you might also have the spark would be significant so a lot of sul'dam eventually end up as damane afterall.
Hmm. Do we know the statistics involved? I mean there seem to be a lot of damane around. Makes me wonder actually how they could possibly compete with the channeling capacity of the AS and the Asha'man who both also accept/train learners. Should they not already be outnumbered? How many people are in Seanchan total? I am not entirely sure what the percentages or channelers to population are, nor how many people the foodproduction in a medieval society like Seanchan could support. Help?
Anyway, you might be right about the "someone else" thing. Especially if actual sparkers are rare enough that someone being caught happens very rarely. Out of sight, out of mind and all that. It also just occurred to me to wonder if the average Seanchan citizen knows how involuntary becoming a channeler is. I mean one would expect this would be obvious since no one wants to be a channeler there, but the Seanchan are brainwashed in other ways too. Maybe they are conditioned from childhood to think that all those who are caught were evil people who chose to become channelers, rather than the innocent victims with bad luck that they are in truth. And naturally this would mean that a "good girl" would not need to fear becoming a damane since they would never "choose" to channel.
But yeah, I guess the impact is probably much less significant than I originally thought.
Seanchan girls. Do they live in terror until 25?
- 02/06/2010 12:32:14 AM
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It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
- 02/06/2010 01:06:32 AM
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Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
- 02/06/2010 01:50:49 AM
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Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
- 02/06/2010 05:53:14 AM
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Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
- 04/06/2010 07:19:36 PM
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A few details to consider
- 02/06/2010 01:11:12 AM
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Re: A few details to consider
- 02/06/2010 02:31:08 AM
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Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics
- 02/06/2010 08:57:43 PM
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Re: Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics
- 03/06/2010 03:38:25 AM
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Re: Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics
- 04/06/2010 07:46:08 PM
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Nobody knows about Sul'dam because it takes them extra long to learn.
- 03/06/2010 07:58:41 AM
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I think they retest only the sul'dam
- 02/06/2010 04:13:55 AM
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I'll have to check my EotW, but I think Eg did have some fevers before Winternight. *NM*
- 02/06/2010 06:34:35 PM
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Re: I think they retest only the sul'dam
- 04/06/2010 07:55:56 PM
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Point on the testing
- 08/06/2010 02:15:26 AM
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Re: Point on the testing
- 08/06/2010 02:46:06 PM
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I'd think that would be a tiny chance given how diligent the Seanchan are in this regard
- 08/06/2010 02:58:15 PM
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Remember, Seancean have no idea channeling can be "learned"
- 02/06/2010 07:04:11 AM
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This is how Damane and Sul'Dam are determined, straight from tGH
- 03/06/2010 08:14:03 AM
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That doesn't make sense. Are you sure they don't put the BRACELET on the girls, not the collar?
- 04/06/2010 01:35:08 AM
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I am absolutely sure. Quote from book.
- 04/06/2010 03:09:08 AM
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Toun, though too young can be collared
- 06/06/2010 03:29:29 AM
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I don't think Tuon will ever Channel
- 06/06/2010 03:39:16 AM
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Re: I don't think Tuon will ever Channel
- 06/06/2010 05:07:40 AM
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I just see all of that as potential plot lines for the planned follow-up Mat/Tuon in Seanchan novels
- 08/06/2010 02:09:26 AM
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Not at all
- 02/06/2010 03:52:31 PM
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As with most things in Jordan's universe, I don't think it was thought through very seriously.
- 03/06/2010 08:05:04 PM
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Huh?
- 03/06/2010 08:44:35 PM
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Sure
- 03/06/2010 09:00:40 PM
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Bah...
- 03/06/2010 09:51:09 PM
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Jordan definitely made mistakes with the Ajahs. In particular, the Black Ajah ones who fled.
- 03/06/2010 10:56:39 PM
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Re: Sure
- 04/06/2010 04:55:23 AM
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I don't know if that's totally true
- 04/06/2010 12:09:29 PM
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Maybe you don't read that much serious literature? I just don't see why you are arguing this.
- 04/06/2010 03:47:50 PM
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I actually don't read much fiction at all to be honest
- 04/06/2010 04:00:03 PM
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You're right about the fact that I have mostly contempt for Jordan.
- 04/06/2010 05:42:49 PM
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Meh
- 04/06/2010 05:03:41 PM
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I love that: "I'm convinced Rand al'Thor is the most monotonous man in the world."
- 04/06/2010 05:47:01 PM
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I think the number of characters directly contributes to the situation.
- 04/06/2010 03:51:42 PM
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Re: I think the number of characters directly contributes to the situation.
- 04/06/2010 05:04:52 PM
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Brandon brings out supporting chars. better, it's true.
- 04/06/2010 03:17:52 AM
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You're absolutely right. Sanderson gets "inside" the characters a bit more. *NM*
- 04/06/2010 03:52:29 PM
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