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You're right about the fact that I have mostly contempt for Jordan. Tom Send a noteboard - 04/06/2010 05:42:49 PM
The reason that I come here is largely by inertia. At wotmania I had stopped going to the WoT board altogether - once I clicked just for fun and it said something like 12,752 new messages since you last viewed this message board.

However, I do want to at least know how it ends. After all, I found the books an interesting diversion through Lord of Chaos. After that it was a boring, fifth-rate diversion. Now, Sanderson has recaptured the spark of the original books and gotten me excited about finding out how it ends.

Defining "serious" literature isn't that hard. It's literature that cuts across genre lines and raises relevant issues about what it means to be human in a way people find aesthetically pleasing.

If you can get people who don't read fantasy to pick up a fantasy book and they uniformly found it meaningful, the book is serious literature. Jordan obviously doesn't qualify.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Seanchan girls. Do they live in terror until 25? - 02/06/2010 12:32:14 AM 1701 Views
A few details to consider - 02/06/2010 01:11:12 AM 1058 Views
Re: A few details to consider - 02/06/2010 02:31:08 AM 1048 Views
Wasn't talking about breeding damane - 03/06/2010 03:32:44 AM 1045 Views
Re: Wasn't talking about breeding damane - 04/06/2010 07:30:55 PM 915 Views
Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics - 02/06/2010 08:57:43 PM 903 Views
Nobody knows about Sul'dam because it takes them extra long to learn. - 03/06/2010 07:58:41 AM 1203 Views
Re: A few details to consider - 04/06/2010 07:33:39 AM 916 Views
I think it's seen as something that happens to other people. - 02/06/2010 02:20:09 AM 938 Views
I think they retest only the sul'dam - 02/06/2010 04:13:55 AM 1095 Views
Re: I think they retest only the sul'dam - 04/06/2010 07:55:56 PM 897 Views
Point on the testing - 08/06/2010 02:15:26 AM 856 Views
Re: Point on the testing - 08/06/2010 02:46:06 PM 922 Views
Remember, Seancean have no idea channeling can be "learned" - 02/06/2010 07:04:11 AM 1005 Views
This is how Damane and Sul'Dam are determined, straight from tGH - 03/06/2010 08:14:03 AM 1611 Views
That doesn't make sense. Are you sure they don't put the BRACELET on the girls, not the collar? - 04/06/2010 01:35:08 AM 881 Views
I am absolutely sure. Quote from book. - 04/06/2010 03:09:08 AM 957 Views
Re: I am absolutely sure. Quote from book. - 04/06/2010 11:54:25 AM 784 Views
Thanks Darius *NM* - 08/06/2010 01:48:28 AM 483 Views
Toun, though too young can be collared - 06/06/2010 03:29:29 AM 805 Views
I don't think Tuon will ever Channel - 06/06/2010 03:39:16 AM 966 Views
Everything points to a change in policy - 06/06/2010 04:04:33 AM 848 Views
Re: Everything points to a change in policy - 06/06/2010 04:18:21 AM 751 Views
Re: I don't think Tuon will ever Channel - 06/06/2010 05:07:40 AM 817 Views
Not at all - 02/06/2010 03:52:31 PM 807 Views
Re: Are the new damane actually tortured? - 02/06/2010 06:56:10 PM 977 Views
I think "tortured" is relative... - 03/06/2010 08:22:37 AM 917 Views
As with most things in Jordan's universe, I don't think it was thought through very seriously. - 03/06/2010 08:05:04 PM 839 Views
Huh? - 03/06/2010 08:44:35 PM 954 Views
Sure - 03/06/2010 09:00:40 PM 965 Views
Bah... - 03/06/2010 09:51:09 PM 891 Views
Jordan definitely made mistakes with the Ajahs. In particular, the Black Ajah ones who fled. - 03/06/2010 10:56:39 PM 895 Views
oh come now - 04/06/2010 12:58:44 AM 853 Views
Re: Sure - 04/06/2010 04:55:23 AM 996 Views
I don't know if that's totally true - 04/06/2010 12:09:29 PM 844 Views
Maybe you don't read that much serious literature? I just don't see why you are arguing this. - 04/06/2010 03:47:50 PM 826 Views
I actually don't read much fiction at all to be honest - 04/06/2010 04:00:03 PM 855 Views
You're right about the fact that I have mostly contempt for Jordan. - 04/06/2010 05:42:49 PM 843 Views
meh. I prefer non-fiction most of the time - 06/06/2010 03:44:38 AM 879 Views
I have read lots of fiction - 06/06/2010 03:57:07 AM 917 Views
Meh - 04/06/2010 05:03:41 PM 875 Views
LOL ... I hear ya on that - 06/06/2010 03:49:48 AM 896 Views
We've seen so little of the old tongue how can you tell? - 06/06/2010 03:33:46 AM 756 Views
This raises another question - 06/06/2010 04:13:25 AM 788 Views
Re: This raises another question - 06/06/2010 04:53:42 AM 883 Views

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