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Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day Datakim Send a noteboard - 02/06/2010 01:50:49 AM
So I don't think it's something people dread, even if they should. Also, since channeling is considered evil, they would probably never consider that they could possibly be able to do it. It would always be "someone else."


Good point, I forgot about the "positive" aspect of sul'dam. But even so I would expect fear. I mean the whole thing is basically a sort of lottery where you might win big, but you might ALSO be horribly tortured and enslaved for life. I would think the negative part would have to be on your mind at some level. And even sul'dam continue to be tested until 25.

I wonder if it possible for a sparker to first test positive for a sul'dam and then afterwards for the collar itself. I guess it must be given that the testing is done. That would still mean fear and doubt even after you became a sul'dam. More so perhaps since at that point you would actually have seen firsthand what would happen to you. Heck, if you tested positive for channeling as a sul'dam, one would think the chance that you might also have the spark would be significant so a lot of sul'dam eventually end up as damane afterall.

Hmm. Do we know the statistics involved? I mean there seem to be a lot of damane around. Makes me wonder actually how they could possibly compete with the channeling capacity of the AS and the Asha'man who both also accept/train learners. Should they not already be outnumbered? How many people are in Seanchan total? I am not entirely sure what the percentages or channelers to population are, nor how many people the foodproduction in a medieval society like Seanchan could support. Help?

Anyway, you might be right about the "someone else" thing. Especially if actual sparkers are rare enough that someone being caught happens very rarely. Out of sight, out of mind and all that. It also just occurred to me to wonder if the average Seanchan citizen knows how involuntary becoming a channeler is. I mean one would expect this would be obvious since no one wants to be a channeler there, but the Seanchan are brainwashed in other ways too. Maybe they are conditioned from childhood to think that all those who are caught were evil people who chose to become channelers, rather than the innocent victims with bad luck that they are in truth. And naturally this would mean that a "good girl" would not need to fear becoming a damane since they would never "choose" to channel.

But yeah, I guess the impact is probably much less significant than I originally thought.
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Seanchan girls. Do they live in terror until 25? - 02/06/2010 12:32:14 AM 1589 Views
It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day - 02/06/2010 01:06:32 AM 926 Views
Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day - 02/06/2010 01:50:49 AM 935 Views
Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day - 02/06/2010 05:53:14 AM 912 Views
A few details to consider - 02/06/2010 01:11:12 AM 930 Views
Re: A few details to consider - 02/06/2010 02:31:08 AM 930 Views
Wasn't talking about breeding damane - 03/06/2010 03:32:44 AM 930 Views
Re: Wasn't talking about breeding damane - 04/06/2010 07:30:55 PM 790 Views
Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics - 02/06/2010 08:57:43 PM 771 Views
Nobody knows about Sul'dam because it takes them extra long to learn. - 03/06/2010 07:58:41 AM 1074 Views
Re: A few details to consider - 04/06/2010 07:33:39 AM 795 Views
I think it's seen as something that happens to other people. - 02/06/2010 02:20:09 AM 823 Views
I think they retest only the sul'dam - 02/06/2010 04:13:55 AM 978 Views
Re: I think they retest only the sul'dam - 04/06/2010 07:55:56 PM 761 Views
Point on the testing - 08/06/2010 02:15:26 AM 738 Views
Re: Point on the testing - 08/06/2010 02:46:06 PM 806 Views
Remember, Seancean have no idea channeling can be "learned" - 02/06/2010 07:04:11 AM 888 Views
This is how Damane and Sul'Dam are determined, straight from tGH - 03/06/2010 08:14:03 AM 1253 Views
That doesn't make sense. Are you sure they don't put the BRACELET on the girls, not the collar? - 04/06/2010 01:35:08 AM 754 Views
I am absolutely sure. Quote from book. - 04/06/2010 03:09:08 AM 833 Views
Re: I am absolutely sure. Quote from book. - 04/06/2010 11:54:25 AM 668 Views
Thanks Darius *NM* - 08/06/2010 01:48:28 AM 418 Views
Toun, though too young can be collared - 06/06/2010 03:29:29 AM 658 Views
I don't think Tuon will ever Channel - 06/06/2010 03:39:16 AM 835 Views
Everything points to a change in policy - 06/06/2010 04:04:33 AM 700 Views
Re: Everything points to a change in policy - 06/06/2010 04:18:21 AM 599 Views
Re: I don't think Tuon will ever Channel - 06/06/2010 05:07:40 AM 711 Views
Not at all - 02/06/2010 03:52:31 PM 682 Views
Re: Are the new damane actually tortured? - 02/06/2010 06:56:10 PM 859 Views
I think "tortured" is relative... - 03/06/2010 08:22:37 AM 773 Views
As with most things in Jordan's universe, I don't think it was thought through very seriously. - 03/06/2010 08:05:04 PM 718 Views
Huh? - 03/06/2010 08:44:35 PM 804 Views
Sure - 03/06/2010 09:00:40 PM 840 Views
Bah... - 03/06/2010 09:51:09 PM 773 Views
Jordan definitely made mistakes with the Ajahs. In particular, the Black Ajah ones who fled. - 03/06/2010 10:56:39 PM 757 Views
oh come now - 04/06/2010 12:58:44 AM 733 Views
Re: Sure - 04/06/2010 04:55:23 AM 866 Views
I don't know if that's totally true - 04/06/2010 12:09:29 PM 699 Views
Maybe you don't read that much serious literature? I just don't see why you are arguing this. - 04/06/2010 03:47:50 PM 713 Views
I actually don't read much fiction at all to be honest - 04/06/2010 04:00:03 PM 744 Views
You're right about the fact that I have mostly contempt for Jordan. - 04/06/2010 05:42:49 PM 707 Views
meh. I prefer non-fiction most of the time - 06/06/2010 03:44:38 AM 764 Views
I have read lots of fiction - 06/06/2010 03:57:07 AM 756 Views
Meh - 04/06/2010 05:03:41 PM 738 Views
LOL ... I hear ya on that - 06/06/2010 03:49:48 AM 747 Views
We've seen so little of the old tongue how can you tell? - 06/06/2010 03:33:46 AM 635 Views
This raises another question - 06/06/2010 04:13:25 AM 675 Views
Re: This raises another question - 06/06/2010 04:53:42 AM 742 Views

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