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You're right about the fact that I have mostly contempt for Jordan. Tom Send a noteboard - 04/06/2010 05:42:49 PM
The reason that I come here is largely by inertia. At wotmania I had stopped going to the WoT board altogether - once I clicked just for fun and it said something like 12,752 new messages since you last viewed this message board.

However, I do want to at least know how it ends. After all, I found the books an interesting diversion through Lord of Chaos. After that it was a boring, fifth-rate diversion. Now, Sanderson has recaptured the spark of the original books and gotten me excited about finding out how it ends.

Defining "serious" literature isn't that hard. It's literature that cuts across genre lines and raises relevant issues about what it means to be human in a way people find aesthetically pleasing.

If you can get people who don't read fantasy to pick up a fantasy book and they uniformly found it meaningful, the book is serious literature. Jordan obviously doesn't qualify.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Seanchan girls. Do they live in terror until 25? - 02/06/2010 12:32:14 AM 1499 Views
A few details to consider - 02/06/2010 01:11:12 AM 874 Views
Re: A few details to consider - 02/06/2010 02:31:08 AM 882 Views
Wasn't talking about breeding damane - 03/06/2010 03:32:44 AM 875 Views
Re: Wasn't talking about breeding damane - 04/06/2010 07:30:55 PM 743 Views
Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics - 02/06/2010 08:57:43 PM 718 Views
Nobody knows about Sul'dam because it takes them extra long to learn. - 03/06/2010 07:58:41 AM 1018 Views
Re: A few details to consider - 04/06/2010 07:33:39 AM 741 Views
I think it's seen as something that happens to other people. - 02/06/2010 02:20:09 AM 746 Views
I think they retest only the sul'dam - 02/06/2010 04:13:55 AM 919 Views
Re: I think they retest only the sul'dam - 04/06/2010 07:55:56 PM 709 Views
Point on the testing - 08/06/2010 02:15:26 AM 683 Views
Re: Point on the testing - 08/06/2010 02:46:06 PM 751 Views
Remember, Seancean have no idea channeling can be "learned" - 02/06/2010 07:04:11 AM 814 Views
This is how Damane and Sul'Dam are determined, straight from tGH - 03/06/2010 08:14:03 AM 1157 Views
That doesn't make sense. Are you sure they don't put the BRACELET on the girls, not the collar? - 04/06/2010 01:35:08 AM 704 Views
I am absolutely sure. Quote from book. - 04/06/2010 03:09:08 AM 775 Views
Re: I am absolutely sure. Quote from book. - 04/06/2010 11:54:25 AM 612 Views
Thanks Darius *NM* - 08/06/2010 01:48:28 AM 380 Views
Toun, though too young can be collared - 06/06/2010 03:29:29 AM 607 Views
I don't think Tuon will ever Channel - 06/06/2010 03:39:16 AM 755 Views
Everything points to a change in policy - 06/06/2010 04:04:33 AM 644 Views
Re: Everything points to a change in policy - 06/06/2010 04:18:21 AM 539 Views
Re: I don't think Tuon will ever Channel - 06/06/2010 05:07:40 AM 660 Views
Not at all - 02/06/2010 03:52:31 PM 626 Views
Re: Are the new damane actually tortured? - 02/06/2010 06:56:10 PM 781 Views
I think "tortured" is relative... - 03/06/2010 08:22:37 AM 717 Views
As with most things in Jordan's universe, I don't think it was thought through very seriously. - 03/06/2010 08:05:04 PM 662 Views
Huh? - 03/06/2010 08:44:35 PM 758 Views
Sure - 03/06/2010 09:00:40 PM 767 Views
Bah... - 03/06/2010 09:51:09 PM 716 Views
Jordan definitely made mistakes with the Ajahs. In particular, the Black Ajah ones who fled. - 03/06/2010 10:56:39 PM 704 Views
oh come now - 04/06/2010 12:58:44 AM 629 Views
Re: Sure - 04/06/2010 04:55:23 AM 804 Views
I don't know if that's totally true - 04/06/2010 12:09:29 PM 634 Views
Maybe you don't read that much serious literature? I just don't see why you are arguing this. - 04/06/2010 03:47:50 PM 668 Views
I actually don't read much fiction at all to be honest - 04/06/2010 04:00:03 PM 694 Views
You're right about the fact that I have mostly contempt for Jordan. - 04/06/2010 05:42:49 PM 658 Views
meh. I prefer non-fiction most of the time - 06/06/2010 03:44:38 AM 709 Views
I have read lots of fiction - 06/06/2010 03:57:07 AM 699 Views
Meh - 04/06/2010 05:03:41 PM 687 Views
LOL ... I hear ya on that - 06/06/2010 03:49:48 AM 693 Views
We've seen so little of the old tongue how can you tell? - 06/06/2010 03:33:46 AM 555 Views
This raises another question - 06/06/2010 04:13:25 AM 617 Views
Re: This raises another question - 06/06/2010 04:53:42 AM 665 Views

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