He's probably referring to what it would take to smother him no matter what he tried. Rand's statement that it would take three women like Semirhage to cut him off is very close to Lanfear's suggestion that she link with Rahvin and Graendal to shield Rand and take him alive.
Yes, I think that is right. Look at the quote in the context of the story. Rand had just been shielded by a circle of 13 despite that he had ahold of Saidin. The ease with which they shielded him was fresh on his mind when he had the thought.
Rand was saying that the only way 3 women could be certain to cut him from the source, 100% of the time once he has taken ahold of saidin, would be if the 3 women are of Semirhage or Mesaana's strength.
As for the interesting twist, I find the above example a good comparison with the example of 2 regular Aes Sedai + Moghedien in a wig.
The Semirhage/Mesaana example above tells us exactly the point at which Rand would get overwhelmed no matter what he did.
The Moghedien + 2 AS example above tells us exactly the point at which Rand actually becomes threatened. Everything in between those two points and the winner depends on other factors: such as skill, knowledge, dexterity, location, luck, etc.
Apparently Moghedien + 2 AS is NOT a guarantee win for Rand, but anything less and Rand wins every time.
That is indeed what it means.
No three women could block him from the Source...
- 15/06/2010 06:52:17 PM
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I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once...
- 15/06/2010 07:22:16 PM
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I think he means that it would take three such women to smother him
- 15/06/2010 07:45:03 PM
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Yes, that is what he meant. Another interesting twist...
- 16/06/2010 01:34:18 AM
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Agreed. Good analysis.
- 16/06/2010 07:48:36 AM
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Re: I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once...
- 15/06/2010 08:17:47 PM
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Huh?
- 15/06/2010 08:19:21 PM
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Re: Huh?
- 15/06/2010 08:31:17 PM
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- 15/06/2010 08:43:12 PM
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- 15/06/2010 08:43:12 PM
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Re:
- 15/06/2010 08:47:05 PM
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- 15/06/2010 08:47:05 PM
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No, this is before.
- 15/06/2010 08:49:13 PM
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Well that's a different quote from the one you used before, and this one shows Lanfear not succeedin
- 15/06/2010 08:52:00 PM
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I never used a quote before. And there's no quote where Lanfear's shield is not succeeding.
- 15/06/2010 08:52:28 PM
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Simple answer to settle it:
- 15/06/2010 09:00:22 PM
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So Talaan is God?
- 15/06/2010 09:04:44 PM
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It Rand had half Lews Therin's skill at the time, she would stand no chance..SKILL was her advantage
- 15/06/2010 09:08:41 PM
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So?
- 15/06/2010 09:15:01 PM
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Nope, YOU said he was talking about smothering him, whatever that's supposed to mean...
- 15/06/2010 09:26:53 PM
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You do know that this was AFTER Lanfear had picked up the bracelet angreal, right?
- 15/06/2010 08:49:47 PM
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It was before... both of them start using an angreal after this.
- 15/06/2010 08:52:02 PM
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Nope. 6 Aes Sedai couldn't take Raolain Darksbane or Yurian Stonebow...Semirhage = 3 Aes Sedai
- 15/06/2010 08:26:21 PM
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Lanfear can do it alone
- 15/06/2010 08:45:09 PM
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She ATTEMPTS to cut him off, when he is not at full strength or full training yet...
- 15/06/2010 08:55:39 PM
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Plus, Rand was splitting his flows, IIRC. Meaning he wasn't 100% one-on-one with her.
- 15/06/2010 08:57:35 PM
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She was splitting her flows too... she was slicing his weaves of Air.
- 15/06/2010 08:59:00 PM
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Bah!
- 15/06/2010 08:58:26 PM
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I repeat: You cannot shield someone unless you are significantly stronger than they are...
- 15/06/2010 09:02:55 PM
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Explain Talaan shielding Nynaeve then. Or the two BA shielding her.
- 15/06/2010 09:05:21 PM
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It becomes a battle of skill then...
- 15/06/2010 09:09:42 PM
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Then by your own definition you do not have to be significantly stronger to shield someone
- 15/06/2010 11:28:44 PM
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Oh come on...
- 15/06/2010 08:48:56 PM
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I know you are not that ignorant...
- 15/06/2010 09:07:02 PM
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But that isn't true...
- 15/06/2010 09:10:37 PM
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Let me spell it out for you...
- 15/06/2010 09:18:04 PM
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Re: Let me spell it out for you...
- 15/06/2010 09:21:02 PM
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+1. It ridiculous comparison. Rand even didn't know how to shield a woman.
- 15/06/2010 09:22:22 PM
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Now that's a ridiculous comparison
- 15/06/2010 09:24:45 PM
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Touchy point, heh?
- 15/06/2010 09:28:47 PM
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- 15/06/2010 09:28:47 PM
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Then how come Lanfear never died? We know she made attempts to capture him.
- 15/06/2010 09:31:20 PM
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Whom? LTT? Can you elaborate?
- 15/06/2010 09:33:25 PM
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If you wish...
- 15/06/2010 09:34:38 PM
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Re: If you wish...
- 15/06/2010 09:36:30 PM
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Whyever not?
- 15/06/2010 09:39:22 PM
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Re: Whyever not?
- 15/06/2010 09:41:22 PM
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Even in that situation
- 15/06/2010 09:43:04 PM
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Re: Even in that situation
- 15/06/2010 09:47:36 PM
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Okay...
- 15/06/2010 09:59:36 PM
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Re: Okay...
- 15/06/2010 10:39:01 PM
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So, if it doesn't agree with your view, its fuzzy, even when that is what the books say?
*NM*
- 15/06/2010 10:42:48 PM
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*NM*
- 15/06/2010 10:42:48 PM
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What?
- 15/06/2010 10:45:16 PM
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If we use your interpretation of the statements. *NM*
- 15/06/2010 10:49:21 PM
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Re: If we use your interpretation of the statements.
- 15/06/2010 10:54:48 PM
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Okay, here's what I think you're saying...
- 15/06/2010 11:00:19 PM
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Hehehe! Classic. Maybe his hands were full of her...err..Globes of Fire...
- 15/06/2010 09:47:35 PM
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It's like women's tennis. Put the best up against a middling men's tennis player and they lose. *NM*
- 16/06/2010 12:18:06 AM
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Re: No three women could block him from the Source...
- 16/06/2010 04:00:00 PM
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I disagree.
- 16/06/2010 04:03:52 PM
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I'd like to think Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha could
- 17/06/2010 04:19:22 PM
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Agreed
- 17/06/2010 05:59:39 PM
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They might be able to, but then they are not 3 women of <b>average AS</b> strength
- 17/06/2010 07:10:14 PM
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They would be far more than 3 average AS
- 17/06/2010 08:07:30 PM
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Another related quote
- 18/06/2010 07:49:33 PM
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well, in the same book about 5 minutes after Lanfear almost kicks Rands ass
- 18/06/2010 08:11:49 PM
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