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I think the question is... Etzel Send a noteboard - 26/07/2010 08:27:17 AM
What does the DO actually know, when you use the TP.

He is of course aware that someone is channeling a certain amount of the TP (perhaps he can distinguish the gender somehow) and likely where this generally happens in the world. Maybe he can even sense, which weave is created with the TP.

But I doubt that the DO would immediately know, who exactly the TP using person is, at least if this person never used the TP before and doesn't have special connections to the DO like the Forsaken have. I also don't think that the DO would know/see/hear what is exactly happening at the place where the TP shall be channeled; he seems too limited for that.

That means regarding the confrontation between Rand and Semirhage (if Moridin's connection wasn't used by Rand), the DO would probably just know that an unknown man is suddenly asking for the TP in the south-west. He might figure, that Rand was involved somehow. I don't think, though, that the DO directly kbew or saw that Rand was captured, tortured by Semirhage and wants to use the TP to free himself & kill Semirhage with balefire (at least if SH wasn't lurking in the Shadows, immediately communicating this info; no indication for this, I think). Being the ur-control freak he is, I normally don't see the DO giving an unknown person - let alone his arch-enemy - access to the TP for some deed he doesn't really know about, especially if there was really a plan to capture Rand.

To me it makes more sense that the DO thought that Moridin is using the TP as usual, but suddenly it flowed via their link to another person/place, and this - which never happened before - completely surprised the DO, so that Rand could use the TP for a few seconds.
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foreshadowing of Semirhage's death - 25/07/2010 07:13:48 AM 1873 Views
I don't think that Semirhage was sacrificed - 25/07/2010 08:36:47 AM 1079 Views
No, too tired to give reasons... *NM* - 25/07/2010 09:30:46 AM 381 Views
Re: No, too tired to give reasons... *NM* - 26/07/2010 01:19:26 AM 370 Views
I disagree about the TP aspect - 25/07/2010 03:30:37 PM 1004 Views
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It's an interesting theory in either direction - 25/07/2010 04:54:31 PM 931 Views
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You can't expect BS to give away things with 2 books to go. - 26/07/2010 01:48:37 AM 876 Views
Re: You can't expect BS to give away things with 2 books to go. - 26/07/2010 02:24:29 AM 814 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect - 26/07/2010 01:22:30 AM 816 Views
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^^^what Datakim said^^^ - 26/07/2010 06:58:02 PM 804 Views
I don't know if Semirhage was sacrificed or not. Either way the Semirhage quote set up tGS 6 books - 26/07/2010 02:29:59 AM 895 Views
You were right the first time - 26/07/2010 03:02:22 AM 932 Views
I think the question is... - 26/07/2010 08:27:17 AM 845 Views
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I'd say that there was a pre-meditated plan or backup plan to sacrifice Semirhage - 26/07/2010 09:02:44 AM 904 Views
I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key - 26/07/2010 09:17:11 AM 820 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key - 26/07/2010 12:10:43 PM 798 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key - 26/07/2010 12:27:11 PM 885 Views
But if this was the plan... - 26/07/2010 12:30:37 PM 805 Views
Moridin and SH knew that the CK could never defeat the dark one so they were happy to leave it - 26/07/2010 05:56:56 PM 943 Views
Unlikely, and stupid if true - 26/07/2010 06:12:30 PM 801 Views
That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth. - 27/07/2010 12:11:46 AM 757 Views
Re: That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth. - 27/07/2010 01:29:29 AM 768 Views
I fail to see the relevance. *NM* - 27/07/2010 02:06:27 AM 354 Views
the relevance is that it was impossible without the CK - 27/07/2010 05:25:45 AM 751 Views
Are you certain? - 27/07/2010 05:37:28 AM 783 Views
Re: Are you certain? - 27/07/2010 03:00:51 PM 849 Views
Re: Are you certain? - 27/07/2010 06:17:59 PM 796 Views
key word is "necessary" *NM* - 27/07/2010 05:14:19 AM 335 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true - 27/07/2010 01:36:53 AM 750 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true - 27/07/2010 02:19:22 AM 810 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true - 27/07/2010 02:43:39 AM 798 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true - 27/07/2010 03:17:49 AM 842 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true - 27/07/2010 03:39:07 AM 788 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true - 27/07/2010 04:26:31 AM 794 Views
Something still doesn't make sense in that theory though - 27/07/2010 07:15:22 AM 881 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true - 27/07/2010 01:44:19 AM 856 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true - 27/07/2010 05:31:03 AM 744 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true - 27/07/2010 03:53:20 PM 815 Views
??? The CK in the hands of a madman is exactly what the Dark One needs to destroy the pattern - 27/07/2010 07:01:13 AM 805 Views
So why not give it to Moridin then? - 27/07/2010 10:54:47 AM 833 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key - 27/07/2010 12:10:01 AM 751 Views
This has been seen and commented before, by myself and others. - 26/07/2010 03:36:51 PM 764 Views
Sorry I missed them. I would have been happy enough to comment there. - 27/07/2010 03:43:46 AM 807 Views
Considering there are years and years worth of comments... - 27/07/2010 02:49:42 PM 822 Views
Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series - 26/07/2010 04:27:14 PM 823 Views
Re: Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series - 26/07/2010 10:34:18 PM 753 Views
Prophesying, but not foreshadowing. - 27/07/2010 12:06:06 AM 700 Views
You confuse foreshadowing and predictability - 27/07/2010 02:57:15 AM 1116 Views
I agree with DomA *NM* *NM* - 27/07/2010 03:44:51 AM 361 Views
I don't believe in foreshadowing that you can figure out from the actual plot. - 27/07/2010 08:42:11 PM 778 Views

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