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Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key Datakim Send a noteboard - 26/07/2010 12:10:43 PM

However, if Rand uses the TP and is tainted, it also makes sense to remove the Chodean Kal, because without that much potential OP strength it would be even harder for Rand to resist using the TP again and become completely addicted.


One could say that SH was able to predict that touching TP would finish driving Rand totally loony, and leaving CK behind for a madman would be quite destructive. And it nearly was, Rand came very close to using the CK to destroy the pattern which is what the DO wants.

That being said, there are still problems with this. For example, why did SH not just pick up the access key and bring it to Moridin. Presumably Moridin could have used the CK to do what Rand nearly did and destroy the pattern.

Unless maybe there is something unique about Rand that allows him to do things that other channelers cannot and it HAD to be him that would destroy the pattern for some reason.
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foreshadowing of Semirhage's death RabidWombat - 25/07/2010 07:13:48 AM 1851 Views
I don't think that Semirhage was sacrificed Etzel - 25/07/2010 08:36:47 AM 1055 Views
No, too tired to give reasons... *NM* Kieran - 25/07/2010 09:30:46 AM 372 Views
Re: No, too tired to give reasons... *NM* BlackAdder - 26/07/2010 01:19:26 AM 362 Views
I disagree about the TP aspect darius_sedai - 25/07/2010 03:30:37 PM 982 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect Datakim - 25/07/2010 04:03:45 PM 979 Views
It's an interesting theory in either direction darius_sedai - 25/07/2010 04:54:31 PM 902 Views
Re: It's an interesting theory in either direction Datakim - 26/07/2010 02:17:35 AM 751 Views
BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use." Etzel - 26/07/2010 09:24:26 AM 784 Views
Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use." DomA - 27/07/2010 03:48:32 AM 824 Views
Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use." Datakim - 27/07/2010 04:18:34 AM 810 Views
You can't expect BS to give away things with 2 books to go. redhand - 26/07/2010 01:48:37 AM 837 Views
Re: You can't expect BS to give away things with 2 books to go. Datakim - 26/07/2010 02:24:29 AM 788 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect BlackAdder - 26/07/2010 01:22:30 AM 796 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect Datakim - 26/07/2010 02:30:11 AM 750 Views
^^^what Datakim said^^^ darius_sedai - 26/07/2010 06:58:02 PM 778 Views
I don't know if Semirhage was sacrificed or not. Either way the Semirhage quote set up tGS 6 books RabidWombat - 26/07/2010 02:29:59 AM 862 Views
You were right the first time DomA - 26/07/2010 03:02:22 AM 911 Views
I think the question is... Etzel - 26/07/2010 08:27:17 AM 825 Views
Re: I think the question is... DomA - 27/07/2010 12:43:44 AM 821 Views
Re: I think the question is... Datakim - 27/07/2010 01:15:29 AM 826 Views
Re: I think the question is... DomA - 27/07/2010 02:10:41 AM 796 Views
Re: I think the question is... Datakim - 27/07/2010 03:17:01 AM 870 Views
Re: I think the question is... DomA - 27/07/2010 05:08:59 AM 864 Views
Re: I think the question is... Datakim - 27/07/2010 05:59:37 PM 830 Views
I'd say that there was a pre-meditated plan or backup plan to sacrifice Semirhage Matrimony Cauthon - 26/07/2010 09:02:44 AM 877 Views
I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key Etzel - 26/07/2010 09:17:11 AM 794 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key Datakim - 26/07/2010 12:10:43 PM 777 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key Lord Haart - 26/07/2010 12:27:11 PM 858 Views
But if this was the plan... Etzel - 26/07/2010 12:30:37 PM 778 Views
Moridin and SH knew that the CK could never defeat the dark one so they were happy to leave it Matrimony Cauthon - 26/07/2010 05:56:56 PM 921 Views
Unlikely, and stupid if true Sidious - 26/07/2010 06:12:30 PM 781 Views
That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth. Fanatic-Templar - 27/07/2010 12:11:46 AM 733 Views
Re: That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth. Datakim - 27/07/2010 01:29:29 AM 750 Views
I fail to see the relevance. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 27/07/2010 02:06:27 AM 343 Views
the relevance is that it was impossible without the CK Sidious - 27/07/2010 05:25:45 AM 719 Views
Are you certain? Fanatic-Templar - 27/07/2010 05:37:28 AM 757 Views
Re: Are you certain? Sidious - 27/07/2010 03:00:51 PM 820 Views
Re: Are you certain? Datakim - 27/07/2010 06:17:59 PM 769 Views
key word is "necessary" *NM* Japhy - 27/07/2010 05:14:19 AM 323 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Datakim - 27/07/2010 01:36:53 AM 726 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 02:19:22 AM 779 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Datakim - 27/07/2010 02:43:39 AM 775 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 03:17:49 AM 814 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Datakim - 27/07/2010 03:39:07 AM 769 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 04:26:31 AM 771 Views
Something still doesn't make sense in that theory though Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 07:15:22 AM 860 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 01:44:19 AM 830 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Sidious - 27/07/2010 05:31:03 AM 725 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 03:53:20 PM 784 Views
??? The CK in the hands of a madman is exactly what the Dark One needs to destroy the pattern Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 07:01:13 AM 777 Views
So why not give it to Moridin then? Sidious - 27/07/2010 10:54:47 AM 803 Views
If their plan of taking Rand to Shayol Ghul suceeded then the CK was no longer needed Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 03:39:58 PM 787 Views
Could be simple. How do you find an object that "lies hidden"? Mik - 27/07/2010 04:17:35 PM 760 Views
It could be, but I would still think they would have noticed the CK sitting next to the male a'dam Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 04:34:45 PM 747 Views
Not if Moridin sensed it, instead of seeing it. Mik - 27/07/2010 08:12:25 PM 752 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key DomA - 27/07/2010 12:10:01 AM 727 Views
This has been seen and commented before, by myself and others. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 26/07/2010 03:36:51 PM 742 Views
Sorry I missed them. I would have been happy enough to comment there. RabidWombat - 27/07/2010 03:43:46 AM 784 Views
Considering there are years and years worth of comments... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/07/2010 02:49:42 PM 771 Views
Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series Sidious - 26/07/2010 04:27:14 PM 795 Views
Re: Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series HyogaRott - 26/07/2010 10:34:18 PM 724 Views
Prophesying, but not foreshadowing. TaskmasterJack - 27/07/2010 12:06:06 AM 674 Views
You confuse foreshadowing and predictability DomA - 27/07/2010 02:57:15 AM 1096 Views
I agree with DomA *NM* *NM* RabidWombat - 27/07/2010 03:44:51 AM 351 Views
That last line had me laughing! (right on the money too, by the way) *NM* Mik - 27/07/2010 02:58:20 PM 341 Views
I don't believe in foreshadowing that you can figure out from the actual plot. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/07/2010 08:42:11 PM 756 Views
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