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Unlikely, and stupid if true Sidious Send a noteboard - 26/07/2010 06:12:30 PM

The Choedan Kal may not be able to defeat the DO, but it can still thwart him severely to the point that he has no chance against the Light.

Let's not forget that the Choedan Kal undid one of the Shadow's greatest achievements, namely the taint on saidin. Rand may not be able to kill Shai'tan with the Access Key but he could still annihilate the entire Blight and render the Shadow defenseless.

It's much more likely that SH can't interact with ter'angreal due to his limitations.
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foreshadowing of Semirhage's death RabidWombat - 25/07/2010 07:13:48 AM 1778 Views
I don't think that Semirhage was sacrificed Etzel - 25/07/2010 08:36:47 AM 979 Views
No, too tired to give reasons... *NM* Kieran - 25/07/2010 09:30:46 AM 330 Views
Re: No, too tired to give reasons... *NM* BlackAdder - 26/07/2010 01:19:26 AM 322 Views
I disagree about the TP aspect darius_sedai - 25/07/2010 03:30:37 PM 901 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect Datakim - 25/07/2010 04:03:45 PM 901 Views
It's an interesting theory in either direction darius_sedai - 25/07/2010 04:54:31 PM 836 Views
Re: It's an interesting theory in either direction Datakim - 26/07/2010 02:17:35 AM 676 Views
BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use." Etzel - 26/07/2010 09:24:26 AM 705 Views
Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use." DomA - 27/07/2010 03:48:32 AM 745 Views
Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use." Datakim - 27/07/2010 04:18:34 AM 742 Views
You can't expect BS to give away things with 2 books to go. redhand - 26/07/2010 01:48:37 AM 750 Views
Re: You can't expect BS to give away things with 2 books to go. Datakim - 26/07/2010 02:24:29 AM 709 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect BlackAdder - 26/07/2010 01:22:30 AM 722 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect Datakim - 26/07/2010 02:30:11 AM 672 Views
^^^what Datakim said^^^ darius_sedai - 26/07/2010 06:58:02 PM 699 Views
I don't know if Semirhage was sacrificed or not. Either way the Semirhage quote set up tGS 6 books RabidWombat - 26/07/2010 02:29:59 AM 787 Views
You were right the first time DomA - 26/07/2010 03:02:22 AM 826 Views
I think the question is... Etzel - 26/07/2010 08:27:17 AM 745 Views
Re: I think the question is... DomA - 27/07/2010 12:43:44 AM 747 Views
Re: I think the question is... Datakim - 27/07/2010 01:15:29 AM 751 Views
Re: I think the question is... DomA - 27/07/2010 02:10:41 AM 717 Views
Re: I think the question is... Datakim - 27/07/2010 03:17:01 AM 790 Views
Re: I think the question is... DomA - 27/07/2010 05:08:59 AM 786 Views
Re: I think the question is... Datakim - 27/07/2010 05:59:37 PM 752 Views
I'd say that there was a pre-meditated plan or backup plan to sacrifice Semirhage Matrimony Cauthon - 26/07/2010 09:02:44 AM 800 Views
I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key Etzel - 26/07/2010 09:17:11 AM 711 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key Datakim - 26/07/2010 12:10:43 PM 698 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key Lord Haart - 26/07/2010 12:27:11 PM 779 Views
But if this was the plan... Etzel - 26/07/2010 12:30:37 PM 705 Views
Moridin and SH knew that the CK could never defeat the dark one so they were happy to leave it Matrimony Cauthon - 26/07/2010 05:56:56 PM 825 Views
Unlikely, and stupid if true Sidious - 26/07/2010 06:12:30 PM 704 Views
That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth. Fanatic-Templar - 27/07/2010 12:11:46 AM 657 Views
Re: That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth. Datakim - 27/07/2010 01:29:29 AM 676 Views
I fail to see the relevance. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 27/07/2010 02:06:27 AM 305 Views
the relevance is that it was impossible without the CK Sidious - 27/07/2010 05:25:45 AM 639 Views
Are you certain? Fanatic-Templar - 27/07/2010 05:37:28 AM 676 Views
Re: Are you certain? Sidious - 27/07/2010 03:00:51 PM 724 Views
Re: Are you certain? Datakim - 27/07/2010 06:17:59 PM 690 Views
key word is "necessary" *NM* Japhy - 27/07/2010 05:14:19 AM 286 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Datakim - 27/07/2010 01:36:53 AM 653 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 02:19:22 AM 690 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Datakim - 27/07/2010 02:43:39 AM 699 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 03:17:49 AM 744 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Datakim - 27/07/2010 03:39:07 AM 704 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 04:26:31 AM 697 Views
Something still doesn't make sense in that theory though Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 07:15:22 AM 788 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 01:44:19 AM 747 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Sidious - 27/07/2010 05:31:03 AM 645 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 03:53:20 PM 688 Views
??? The CK in the hands of a madman is exactly what the Dark One needs to destroy the pattern Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 07:01:13 AM 700 Views
So why not give it to Moridin then? Sidious - 27/07/2010 10:54:47 AM 715 Views
If their plan of taking Rand to Shayol Ghul suceeded then the CK was no longer needed Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 03:39:58 PM 694 Views
Could be simple. How do you find an object that "lies hidden"? Mik - 27/07/2010 04:17:35 PM 677 Views
It could be, but I would still think they would have noticed the CK sitting next to the male a'dam Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 04:34:45 PM 671 Views
Not if Moridin sensed it, instead of seeing it. Mik - 27/07/2010 08:12:25 PM 674 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key DomA - 27/07/2010 12:10:01 AM 658 Views
This has been seen and commented before, by myself and others. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 26/07/2010 03:36:51 PM 664 Views
Sorry I missed them. I would have been happy enough to comment there. RabidWombat - 27/07/2010 03:43:46 AM 706 Views
Considering there are years and years worth of comments... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/07/2010 02:49:42 PM 678 Views
Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series Sidious - 26/07/2010 04:27:14 PM 723 Views
Re: Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series HyogaRott - 26/07/2010 10:34:18 PM 646 Views
Prophesying, but not foreshadowing. TaskmasterJack - 27/07/2010 12:06:06 AM 605 Views
You confuse foreshadowing and predictability DomA - 27/07/2010 02:57:15 AM 1018 Views
I agree with DomA *NM* *NM* RabidWombat - 27/07/2010 03:44:51 AM 312 Views
That last line had me laughing! (right on the money too, by the way) *NM* Mik - 27/07/2010 02:58:20 PM 292 Views
I don't believe in foreshadowing that you can figure out from the actual plot. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/07/2010 08:42:11 PM 675 Views
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