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That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 27/07/2010 12:11:46 AM
The sa'angreal was a necessary tool to achieve this, but it was not the critical component.
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foreshadowing of Semirhage's death RabidWombat - 25/07/2010 07:13:48 AM 1746 Views
I don't think that Semirhage was sacrificed Etzel - 25/07/2010 08:36:47 AM 945 Views
No, too tired to give reasons... *NM* Kieran - 25/07/2010 09:30:46 AM 317 Views
Re: No, too tired to give reasons... *NM* BlackAdder - 26/07/2010 01:19:26 AM 309 Views
I disagree about the TP aspect darius_sedai - 25/07/2010 03:30:37 PM 868 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect Datakim - 25/07/2010 04:03:45 PM 860 Views
It's an interesting theory in either direction darius_sedai - 25/07/2010 04:54:31 PM 801 Views
Re: It's an interesting theory in either direction Datakim - 26/07/2010 02:17:35 AM 644 Views
BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use." Etzel - 26/07/2010 09:24:26 AM 674 Views
Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use." DomA - 27/07/2010 03:48:32 AM 715 Views
Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use." Datakim - 27/07/2010 04:18:34 AM 698 Views
You can't expect BS to give away things with 2 books to go. redhand - 26/07/2010 01:48:37 AM 722 Views
Re: You can't expect BS to give away things with 2 books to go. Datakim - 26/07/2010 02:24:29 AM 674 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect BlackAdder - 26/07/2010 01:22:30 AM 690 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect Datakim - 26/07/2010 02:30:11 AM 639 Views
^^^what Datakim said^^^ darius_sedai - 26/07/2010 06:58:02 PM 672 Views
I don't know if Semirhage was sacrificed or not. Either way the Semirhage quote set up tGS 6 books RabidWombat - 26/07/2010 02:29:59 AM 752 Views
You were right the first time DomA - 26/07/2010 03:02:22 AM 792 Views
I think the question is... Etzel - 26/07/2010 08:27:17 AM 705 Views
Re: I think the question is... DomA - 27/07/2010 12:43:44 AM 711 Views
Re: I think the question is... Datakim - 27/07/2010 01:15:29 AM 721 Views
Re: I think the question is... DomA - 27/07/2010 02:10:41 AM 679 Views
Re: I think the question is... Datakim - 27/07/2010 03:17:01 AM 754 Views
Re: I think the question is... DomA - 27/07/2010 05:08:59 AM 751 Views
Re: I think the question is... Datakim - 27/07/2010 05:59:37 PM 718 Views
I'd say that there was a pre-meditated plan or backup plan to sacrifice Semirhage Matrimony Cauthon - 26/07/2010 09:02:44 AM 761 Views
I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key Etzel - 26/07/2010 09:17:11 AM 678 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key Datakim - 26/07/2010 12:10:43 PM 667 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key Lord Haart - 26/07/2010 12:27:11 PM 745 Views
But if this was the plan... Etzel - 26/07/2010 12:30:37 PM 665 Views
Moridin and SH knew that the CK could never defeat the dark one so they were happy to leave it Matrimony Cauthon - 26/07/2010 05:56:56 PM 770 Views
Unlikely, and stupid if true Sidious - 26/07/2010 06:12:30 PM 674 Views
That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth. Fanatic-Templar - 27/07/2010 12:11:46 AM 627 Views
Re: That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth. Datakim - 27/07/2010 01:29:29 AM 646 Views
I fail to see the relevance. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 27/07/2010 02:06:27 AM 294 Views
the relevance is that it was impossible without the CK Sidious - 27/07/2010 05:25:45 AM 602 Views
Are you certain? Fanatic-Templar - 27/07/2010 05:37:28 AM 647 Views
Re: Are you certain? Sidious - 27/07/2010 03:00:51 PM 694 Views
Re: Are you certain? Datakim - 27/07/2010 06:17:59 PM 660 Views
key word is "necessary" *NM* Japhy - 27/07/2010 05:14:19 AM 273 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Datakim - 27/07/2010 01:36:53 AM 616 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 02:19:22 AM 658 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Datakim - 27/07/2010 02:43:39 AM 668 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 03:17:49 AM 705 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Datakim - 27/07/2010 03:39:07 AM 671 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 04:26:31 AM 673 Views
Something still doesn't make sense in that theory though Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 07:15:22 AM 760 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 01:44:19 AM 718 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Sidious - 27/07/2010 05:31:03 AM 618 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 03:53:20 PM 656 Views
??? The CK in the hands of a madman is exactly what the Dark One needs to destroy the pattern Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 07:01:13 AM 666 Views
So why not give it to Moridin then? Sidious - 27/07/2010 10:54:47 AM 687 Views
If their plan of taking Rand to Shayol Ghul suceeded then the CK was no longer needed Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 03:39:58 PM 664 Views
Could be simple. How do you find an object that "lies hidden"? Mik - 27/07/2010 04:17:35 PM 646 Views
It could be, but I would still think they would have noticed the CK sitting next to the male a'dam Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 04:34:45 PM 637 Views
Not if Moridin sensed it, instead of seeing it. Mik - 27/07/2010 08:12:25 PM 644 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key DomA - 27/07/2010 12:10:01 AM 633 Views
This has been seen and commented before, by myself and others. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 26/07/2010 03:36:51 PM 633 Views
Sorry I missed them. I would have been happy enough to comment there. RabidWombat - 27/07/2010 03:43:46 AM 678 Views
Considering there are years and years worth of comments... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/07/2010 02:49:42 PM 642 Views
Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series Sidious - 26/07/2010 04:27:14 PM 693 Views
Re: Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series HyogaRott - 26/07/2010 10:34:18 PM 615 Views
Prophesying, but not foreshadowing. TaskmasterJack - 27/07/2010 12:06:06 AM 573 Views
You confuse foreshadowing and predictability DomA - 27/07/2010 02:57:15 AM 982 Views
I agree with DomA *NM* *NM* RabidWombat - 27/07/2010 03:44:51 AM 301 Views
That last line had me laughing! (right on the money too, by the way) *NM* Mik - 27/07/2010 02:58:20 PM 281 Views
I don't believe in foreshadowing that you can figure out from the actual plot. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/07/2010 08:42:11 PM 647 Views
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