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the relevance is that it was impossible without the CK Sidious Send a noteboard - 27/07/2010 05:25:45 AM

The CK made the cleansing possible, as did Shadar Logoth, as well as a woman of high power to link with. They were all critical.
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foreshadowing of Semirhage's death RabidWombat - 25/07/2010 07:13:48 AM 1801 Views
I don't think that Semirhage was sacrificed Etzel - 25/07/2010 08:36:47 AM 1005 Views
No, too tired to give reasons... *NM* Kieran - 25/07/2010 09:30:46 AM 344 Views
Re: No, too tired to give reasons... *NM* BlackAdder - 26/07/2010 01:19:26 AM 336 Views
I disagree about the TP aspect darius_sedai - 25/07/2010 03:30:37 PM 928 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect Datakim - 25/07/2010 04:03:45 PM 927 Views
It's an interesting theory in either direction darius_sedai - 25/07/2010 04:54:31 PM 861 Views
Re: It's an interesting theory in either direction Datakim - 26/07/2010 02:17:35 AM 703 Views
BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use." Etzel - 26/07/2010 09:24:26 AM 731 Views
Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use." DomA - 27/07/2010 03:48:32 AM 770 Views
Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use." Datakim - 27/07/2010 04:18:34 AM 767 Views
You can't expect BS to give away things with 2 books to go. redhand - 26/07/2010 01:48:37 AM 773 Views
Re: You can't expect BS to give away things with 2 books to go. Datakim - 26/07/2010 02:24:29 AM 737 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect BlackAdder - 26/07/2010 01:22:30 AM 744 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect Datakim - 26/07/2010 02:30:11 AM 695 Views
^^^what Datakim said^^^ darius_sedai - 26/07/2010 06:58:02 PM 725 Views
I don't know if Semirhage was sacrificed or not. Either way the Semirhage quote set up tGS 6 books RabidWombat - 26/07/2010 02:29:59 AM 810 Views
You were right the first time DomA - 26/07/2010 03:02:22 AM 856 Views
I think the question is... Etzel - 26/07/2010 08:27:17 AM 772 Views
Re: I think the question is... DomA - 27/07/2010 12:43:44 AM 771 Views
Re: I think the question is... Datakim - 27/07/2010 01:15:29 AM 778 Views
Re: I think the question is... DomA - 27/07/2010 02:10:41 AM 741 Views
Re: I think the question is... Datakim - 27/07/2010 03:17:01 AM 817 Views
Re: I think the question is... DomA - 27/07/2010 05:08:59 AM 816 Views
Re: I think the question is... Datakim - 27/07/2010 05:59:37 PM 778 Views
I'd say that there was a pre-meditated plan or backup plan to sacrifice Semirhage Matrimony Cauthon - 26/07/2010 09:02:44 AM 827 Views
I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key Etzel - 26/07/2010 09:17:11 AM 739 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key Datakim - 26/07/2010 12:10:43 PM 726 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key Lord Haart - 26/07/2010 12:27:11 PM 805 Views
But if this was the plan... Etzel - 26/07/2010 12:30:37 PM 728 Views
Moridin and SH knew that the CK could never defeat the dark one so they were happy to leave it Matrimony Cauthon - 26/07/2010 05:56:56 PM 854 Views
Unlikely, and stupid if true Sidious - 26/07/2010 06:12:30 PM 729 Views
That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth. Fanatic-Templar - 27/07/2010 12:11:46 AM 681 Views
Re: That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth. Datakim - 27/07/2010 01:29:29 AM 702 Views
I fail to see the relevance. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 27/07/2010 02:06:27 AM 316 Views
the relevance is that it was impossible without the CK Sidious - 27/07/2010 05:25:45 AM 664 Views
Are you certain? Fanatic-Templar - 27/07/2010 05:37:28 AM 700 Views
Re: Are you certain? Sidious - 27/07/2010 03:00:51 PM 749 Views
Re: Are you certain? Datakim - 27/07/2010 06:17:59 PM 713 Views
key word is "necessary" *NM* Japhy - 27/07/2010 05:14:19 AM 297 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Datakim - 27/07/2010 01:36:53 AM 677 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 02:19:22 AM 713 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Datakim - 27/07/2010 02:43:39 AM 727 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 03:17:49 AM 771 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Datakim - 27/07/2010 03:39:07 AM 723 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 04:26:31 AM 722 Views
Something still doesn't make sense in that theory though Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 07:15:22 AM 817 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 01:44:19 AM 775 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Sidious - 27/07/2010 05:31:03 AM 670 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 03:53:20 PM 710 Views
??? The CK in the hands of a madman is exactly what the Dark One needs to destroy the pattern Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 07:01:13 AM 724 Views
So why not give it to Moridin then? Sidious - 27/07/2010 10:54:47 AM 739 Views
If their plan of taking Rand to Shayol Ghul suceeded then the CK was no longer needed Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 03:39:58 PM 721 Views
Could be simple. How do you find an object that "lies hidden"? Mik - 27/07/2010 04:17:35 PM 703 Views
It could be, but I would still think they would have noticed the CK sitting next to the male a'dam Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 04:34:45 PM 688 Views
Not if Moridin sensed it, instead of seeing it. Mik - 27/07/2010 08:12:25 PM 702 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key DomA - 27/07/2010 12:10:01 AM 680 Views
This has been seen and commented before, by myself and others. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 26/07/2010 03:36:51 PM 688 Views
Sorry I missed them. I would have been happy enough to comment there. RabidWombat - 27/07/2010 03:43:46 AM 731 Views
Considering there are years and years worth of comments... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/07/2010 02:49:42 PM 705 Views
Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series Sidious - 26/07/2010 04:27:14 PM 747 Views
Re: Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series HyogaRott - 26/07/2010 10:34:18 PM 673 Views
Prophesying, but not foreshadowing. TaskmasterJack - 27/07/2010 12:06:06 AM 629 Views
You confuse foreshadowing and predictability DomA - 27/07/2010 02:57:15 AM 1048 Views
I agree with DomA *NM* *NM* RabidWombat - 27/07/2010 03:44:51 AM 326 Views
That last line had me laughing! (right on the money too, by the way) *NM* Mik - 27/07/2010 02:58:20 PM 309 Views
I don't believe in foreshadowing that you can figure out from the actual plot. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/07/2010 08:42:11 PM 698 Views
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