Active Users:592 Time:10/11/2026 12:12:05 AM
Additionally, re: Why the Dragons? scalius Send a noteboard - 09/09/2009 03:08:27 PM
Dragons? Not sure. Haven't gone back in read tGH yet, and don't recall if such a thing were ever mentioned in any way.


I've now gone back and re-read the Turak scene. There is no description of the scabbard, at all. However, RJ described nearly everything else in this scence as he always does. Turaks fingernails, his clothing, the servants clothing, the silk-screen, etc. The scabbard is noted more than once by RJ, but only in that it's present, with no detailed description.

Fitting my theory, I have a plausible explanation not requiring much twisting. Given the above, it could be argued that the lack of any descriptor for the scabbard would indicate that, in fact, the scabbard has no signifying features, and is rather plain and unadorned.

Move forward to tGS. It's pointed out that Rand recognized the weapon, and not the scabbard itself. Further, it's noted that the scabbard/weapon were gifted to Rand. The biggest stretch is that the comment on "centuries old" is in fact regarding the weapon itself, and not the actual scabbard. This is the biggest leap, as the wording can go either way. But it's not that great a leap, as we know it's the weapon Rand recognizes, and so we can assume it's the weapon that is centuries old.

Now given the plain scabbard from Turak's scene, and given that this was gifted to Rand, I don't find it hard to believe that the Dragon was painted on only recently, after it was decided to present this gift to the Dragon Reborn.
I would slave, to pave the way, to sink your ship of fools.
This message last edited by scalius on 09/09/2009 at 03:09:10 PM
Reply to message
Plot relevance of the sword - 06/09/2009 04:25:12 PM 1685 Views
Re: Plot relevance of the sword - 06/09/2009 05:40:07 PM 1141 Views
Great - 06/09/2009 08:01:07 PM 1132 Views
Re: Great - 07/09/2009 04:02:53 AM 1060 Views
Re: Great - 07/09/2009 11:53:52 PM 1099 Views
Re: Great - 08/09/2009 12:12:26 AM 1135 Views
doubt it - 08/09/2009 01:16:23 AM 1114 Views
Re: doubt it - 10/09/2009 07:36:38 PM 1027 Views
Ockham's Razor - 08/09/2009 03:25:59 AM 1028 Views
You can't use real world facts on a WoT character! - 08/09/2009 04:56:25 AM 1124 Views
Re: Great - 08/09/2009 10:57:13 PM 1284 Views
Thoughts on Justice - 09/09/2009 01:48:10 AM 1108 Views
I see that differently - 09/09/2009 02:15:45 AM 1099 Views
Re: I see that differently - 09/09/2009 05:24:55 PM 1011 Views
Re: I see that differently - 09/09/2009 05:52:56 PM 1051 Views
Re: I see that differently - 10/09/2009 04:42:57 AM 981 Views
Re: I see that differently - 10/09/2009 02:53:56 PM 971 Views
Re: I see that differently - 10/09/2009 06:49:36 PM 1038 Views
Maybe we're just reading it wrong - 09/09/2009 05:05:35 AM 1227 Views
Well... - 09/09/2009 03:59:27 PM 1146 Views
I like this idea very much. The only question is... - 06/09/2009 09:10:57 PM 1073 Views
Nice - 07/09/2009 02:46:36 AM 1049 Views
Re: Nice - 07/09/2009 04:00:53 AM 1078 Views
? Yes, I am aware of this - 07/09/2009 04:24:03 AM 1050 Views
Re: ? Yes, I am aware of this - 07/09/2009 03:36:45 PM 1025 Views
I'd favor it being Justice, they probably tell us in the prologue - 09/09/2009 05:46:37 PM 1070 Views
My early theory: High Lord Turak - 08/09/2009 08:11:24 PM 1635 Views
All good points but a couple of puzzlers - 09/09/2009 02:06:59 AM 1089 Views
see above for part - 09/09/2009 02:20:19 AM 1051 Views
OK, I see what you are getting at, but I'm not sure I buy it - 09/09/2009 12:14:10 PM 1036 Views
Re: OK, I see what you are getting at, but I'm not sure I buy it - 09/09/2009 02:59:30 PM 1058 Views
No, He's giving me way more than I want. - 09/09/2009 05:27:31 PM 958 Views
But is it...? - 09/09/2009 10:00:40 PM 1090 Views
Well the point of the original poster - 10/09/2009 02:05:05 AM 1103 Views
Additionally, re: Why the Dragons? - 09/09/2009 03:08:27 PM 1077 Views
Not sure - 09/09/2009 05:37:53 PM 1023 Views
We'll find out I guess - 09/09/2009 07:26:58 PM 994 Views
Additionally, re: "it felt right...." - 09/09/2009 02:47:39 AM 979 Views
Re: My early theory: High Lord Turak - 09/09/2009 05:29:11 PM 1063 Views
Re: My early theory: High Lord Turak - 09/09/2009 06:05:43 PM 1139 Views
Re: My early theory: High Lord Turak - 10/09/2009 04:46:21 AM 1071 Views
No Way! - 09/09/2009 07:33:14 PM 1028 Views

Reply to Message