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the other reason NaClH2O Send a noteboard - 13/09/2009 03:24:24 PM
Agree. Part of the reason ishy is naeblis.

Is that Ishy is Shaitan's "fancy pants boy". After all Ishy failed badly on two separate instances. One he failed to prevent (or even try to prevent) the use of the Bowl of Winds. That was a Major setback for the Dark. The other failure is of course the Cleansing. We always hear (and in some instances see) that the Shadow is very intolerant of failure. Yet Ishy has gotten off scot free on these two massive blunders.

NaCl(the only conclusion is that Ishy is "teachers pet" )H2O +<img class=' />
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I agree 101%. *NM* Yvves - 14/09/2009 03:49:51 AM 516 Views
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Doesn't Graendal have an Angreal now? Rurouni_Kenshin - 17/09/2009 03:29:10 AM 998 Views
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Excellent point *NM* Shannow - 13/09/2009 10:35:08 PM 528 Views
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Hm? When? *NM* beetnemesis - 14/09/2009 09:04:10 PM 431 Views
tPoD, when she compelled Cyndane and Moghedien. *NM* fionwe1987 - 14/09/2009 10:19:23 PM 469 Views
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Using Compulsion on someone doesn't seem mechanically different beetnemesis - 14/09/2009 09:03:41 PM 851 Views
I'm not so sure about that Sidious - 14/09/2009 09:36:45 PM 932 Views
Totally agree Shannow - 14/09/2009 10:26:07 PM 788 Views
I don't agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/09/2009 04:33:04 PM 1056 Views
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But the third time's supposed to be lucky. So that won't count either. *NM* fionwe1987 - 13/09/2009 11:26:18 PM 509 Views
Really? Shannow - 13/09/2009 08:36:33 PM 920 Views
No falsely... fionwe1987 - 13/09/2009 11:25:40 PM 1143 Views
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I think, outside of semantics, our main disagreement doesn't lie amid the higher tiers RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/09/2009 03:53:09 PM 819 Views
Probably Sidious - 16/09/2009 06:31:27 PM 964 Views
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Ahh the old debate... fionwe1987 - 17/09/2009 12:42:36 AM 900 Views
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Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. Sidious - 15/09/2009 04:39:39 PM 908 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/09/2009 04:53:00 PM 920 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. Sidious - 15/09/2009 06:47:45 PM 963 Views
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Hmmm Sidious - 14/09/2009 07:04:34 PM 943 Views
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Ah yes, that makes sense, and would be great! *NM* Sidious - 14/09/2009 07:40:29 PM 789 Views
Yeah. Though I think its no competition. Graendal has got to be better than a walking tree! fionwe1987 - 14/09/2009 07:50:09 PM 849 Views
They do imply that Graendal is a lot more dangerous than she looks beetnemesis - 14/09/2009 09:08:43 PM 878 Views
I've never underestimated Graendal Sidious - 14/09/2009 09:42:49 PM 931 Views
Yeah... her frivolity was always a red flag for me too. fionwe1987 - 14/09/2009 10:18:40 PM 973 Views
To me, she is the most lethal. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/09/2009 05:18:10 PM 720 Views
Yup... fionwe1987 - 15/09/2009 06:39:20 PM 776 Views
I still like Lanfear more Sidious - 15/09/2009 06:51:03 PM 862 Views
Bah! She's an idiot! fionwe1987 - 15/09/2009 07:06:06 PM 868 Views
only in love *NM* Sidious - 15/09/2009 07:23:29 PM 825 Views
Graendal did not beat me and Moghedien Lanfear - 15/09/2009 05:59:39 PM 964 Views
Agreed Sidious - 15/09/2009 06:36:48 PM 851 Views
Ummm... how do we know? fionwe1987 - 15/09/2009 06:40:57 PM 987 Views
Re: Ummm... how do we know? Sidious - 15/09/2009 06:56:21 PM 899 Views
Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 15/09/2009 07:07:45 PM 1096 Views
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