Demandred, Lanfear, Semirhage, Graendal and Sammael could probably duel one another with unpredictable results, and the result would be 50-50 if they dueled a hundred times. It makes them inferior to Ishamael and Lews Therin, but not to each other.
I sincerely doubt that Semirhage is up to par with Sammael, Lanfear or Demandred when it comes to dueling, considering how badly she managed in Kod. She's certainly skilled in her area of expertise, but in a battle Demandred would overwhelm her before she could form a single one of her sophisticated torture weaves which she certainly would revert to using in a battle, same as Graendal would try to use Compulsion.
But Semirhage did not manage badly in KoD. There is no Forsaken who could have defeated Logain, Cadsuane, Nynaeve, Narishma and Sandomere at the same time. On the contrary, Nynaeve thinks that if she hadn't been holding the Power from the beginning, she would have been in trouble.
Also, Mesaana thinks she's as capable in the Power as Semmy, yet Mesaana is subservient-ish to Demandred. How then could Semmy and Demandred be equal in a OP duel?
Mesaana does not specifically mention the One Power, and she feels uneasy around Semirhage despite what she says. RJ also said that a Forsaken's estimation of their abilities is always a lie, because they are unwilling to admit any fallibility. Mesaana is also not subservient to Demandred on any account - she merely recognizes that he would have been the second most acclaimed man of the Age after Lews Therin. In KoD, Demandred and Semirhage flank Mesaana, and Semirhage shows no deference to Demandred at all.
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The top 6 Forsaken - similar in the One Power
- 12/09/2009 09:27:20 PM
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Some thoughts about Semmy
- 12/09/2009 09:59:50 PM
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Re: Some thoughts about Semmy
- 13/09/2009 08:33:28 AM
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The Big White Book says...
- 12/09/2009 11:46:43 PM
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Not Aginor
- 13/09/2009 08:36:37 AM
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Re: Not Aginor
- 13/09/2009 03:16:13 PM
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Re: Not Aginor
- 13/09/2009 05:47:14 PM
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Fact is, the bwb is untrustworthy
- 13/09/2009 05:54:28 PM
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But, RJ himself said that the BWB was written from the standpoint of a scholar
- 14/09/2009 04:42:59 PM
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It all depends on how you define "powerful"
- 14/09/2009 02:30:31 AM
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So is graendal similar to lanfear then?
- 13/09/2009 05:41:42 PM
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Graendal could fight Lanfear and win
- 13/09/2009 06:01:57 PM
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Graendal herself says...
- 13/09/2009 09:08:46 PM
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Lanfear was more powerful than Graendal, but Cyndane has less power
- 13/09/2009 10:19:35 PM
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Re: So is graendal similar to lanfear then?
- 13/09/2009 06:05:11 PM
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Compulsion=any other deadly weave. Doesn't really change matters
- 13/09/2009 10:23:40 PM
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But it did give her an edge, and against two forsaken. *NM*
- 13/09/2009 11:12:09 PM
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Not at all
- 14/09/2009 04:51:48 AM
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But Graendal confronted her... twice! *NM*
- 13/09/2009 07:48:29 PM
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Apparently only the third time counts
*NM*
- 13/09/2009 08:00:37 PM
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But the third time's supposed to be lucky. So that won't count either. *NM*
- 13/09/2009 11:26:18 PM
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*NM*
- 13/09/2009 08:00:37 PM
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But the third time's supposed to be lucky. So that won't count either. *NM*
- 13/09/2009 11:26:18 PM
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Really?
- 13/09/2009 08:36:33 PM
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No falsely...
- 13/09/2009 11:25:40 PM
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- 13/09/2009 11:25:40 PM
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And, of course, the male and female OP strength ranks might not even correlate that much
- 14/09/2009 04:41:58 PM
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They correlate on some critical points
- 14/09/2009 06:57:43 PM
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That's not exactly what I'm referring to.
- 15/09/2009 04:36:29 PM
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But then we are discussing the same thing
- 15/09/2009 06:59:04 PM
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I think, outside of semantics, our main disagreement doesn't lie amid the higher tiers
- 16/09/2009 03:53:09 PM
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Probably
- 16/09/2009 06:31:27 PM
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I only disagree on one point, I think they are all rather equal in potential, incl. Ishamael
- 14/09/2009 04:28:12 PM
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I do think Ishamel is special
- 14/09/2009 07:04:03 PM
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He's special the same way any individual is special.
- 14/09/2009 11:36:42 PM
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Re: He's special the same way any individual is special.
- 15/09/2009 08:36:20 AM
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Re: He's special the same way any individual is special.
- 15/09/2009 03:48:34 PM
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Re: He's special the same way any individual is special.
- 15/09/2009 04:39:39 PM
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The more interesting question is...
- 14/09/2009 06:34:11 PM
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Hmmm
- 14/09/2009 07:04:34 PM
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I think we'll see Graendal vs. Aran'gar.
- 14/09/2009 07:31:16 PM
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Ah yes, that makes sense, and would be great! *NM*
- 14/09/2009 07:40:29 PM
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Yeah. Though I think its no competition. Graendal has got to be better than a walking tree!
- 14/09/2009 07:50:09 PM
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They do imply that Graendal is a lot more dangerous than she looks
- 14/09/2009 09:08:43 PM
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I've never underestimated Graendal
- 14/09/2009 09:42:49 PM
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Yeah... her frivolity was always a red flag for me too.
- 14/09/2009 10:18:40 PM
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To me, she is the most lethal.
- 15/09/2009 05:18:10 PM
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I still like Lanfear more
- 15/09/2009 06:51:03 PM
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- 15/09/2009 06:51:03 PM
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Graendal did not beat me and Moghedien
- 15/09/2009 05:59:39 PM
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Agreed
- 15/09/2009 06:36:48 PM
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Ummm... how do we know?
- 15/09/2009 06:40:57 PM
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only in love *NM*