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Re: Just one? Here's a list from the top of my head in 60 secs:.. Sidious Send a noteboard - 25/10/2010 04:14:05 PM

1: Elaida - kidnapping of King Mattin Stepaneos
2: Alanna - bonding Rand against his will (nothing short of rape, known by lots of Aes Sedai)
3: Elaida - severely torturing a novice (Egwene) in front of a lot of Aes Sedai.
4: Elaida - kidnapping Rand
5: Aes Sedai kidnapping gang - severe torture of a prisoner (Rand)


Wow, if these are atrocities to you, then I'd hate to think what category you put the Holocaust in.
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The Children of the Light and the White Tower Cannoli - 20/10/2010 08:32:10 PM 2606 Views
Re: The Children of the Light and the White Tower moratcorlm - 20/10/2010 08:58:12 PM 1254 Views
The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards. Cannoli - 20/10/2010 09:05:55 PM 1374 Views
Re: The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards. moratcorlm - 21/10/2010 12:15:48 AM 1280 Views
Re: The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards. Cannoli - 21/10/2010 02:59:49 PM 1279 Views
Hehe. Touché! *NM* Mik - 21/10/2010 03:05:02 PM 658 Views
Re: The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards. Datakim - 21/10/2010 04:35:00 PM 1104 Views
And farmers are, of course, treated the same as rebel officers and usurpers and mutineers. Cannoli - 23/10/2010 03:07:10 PM 1179 Views
Re: The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards. moratcorlm - 21/10/2010 07:55:06 PM 1203 Views
And there is no indication of how far that went. Cannoli - 23/10/2010 03:12:42 PM 1053 Views
"The question" as opposed to "questioning" moratcorlm - 24/10/2010 06:21:43 PM 1118 Views
And that would indicate everyone does it, if it is so commonly used, so how are the CoL worse? *NM* Cannoli - 25/10/2010 01:14:13 AM 695 Views
Re: The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards. rAndy aL - 24/10/2010 06:53:19 AM 1430 Views
But that explains their actions Cannoli - 25/10/2010 01:41:50 AM 1143 Views
Don't turn this around on the Aes Sedai rAndy aL - 27/10/2010 10:53:27 AM 1333 Views
The utter stupidity of this statement caught my eye... fionwe1987 - 24/10/2010 08:12:58 AM 1084 Views
Your analyses and extension of concepts always brings that "utter stupidity" phrase to my mind. Cannoli - 25/10/2010 02:17:10 AM 1252 Views
Huh? ... what !! ... are you mad? Sidious - 21/10/2010 05:05:16 PM 1215 Views
Did you forget the very first PoV Darkfriend in the series? Cannoli - 23/10/2010 03:27:25 PM 1221 Views
Difference being the whitecloaks who were ordered to do it were not DFs. All the AS evil deeds darius_sedai - 23/10/2010 07:55:23 PM 1201 Views
So similar scenes in the Cairhienin civil war were all the work of Darkfriends? Cannoli - 25/10/2010 02:25:57 AM 1186 Views
Please provide an example of a DF AS committing an atrocity and not being punished by the Tower darius_sedai - 25/10/2010 03:34:46 AM 1119 Views
Just one? Here's a list from the top of my head in 60 secs:.. Mik - 25/10/2010 09:28:10 AM 1165 Views
Re: Just one? Here's a list from the top of my head in 60 secs:.. Sidious - 25/10/2010 04:14:05 PM 1294 Views
Not to mention it's not like any of these have been without repercussion! darius_sedai - 25/10/2010 04:50:39 PM 1044 Views
Re: Not to mention it's not like any of these have been without repercussion! Mik - 27/10/2010 01:06:53 PM 1208 Views
You under some delusion that I'm defending the AS darius_sedai - 27/10/2010 08:29:14 PM 1126 Views
No. I'm pointing out you are under the delusion that AS pay for their atrocities. Mik - 28/10/2010 09:16:38 AM 1083 Views
okay, so AS never Still and execute AS for doing stuff ... have you read the series? darius_sedai - 28/10/2010 05:20:28 PM 1106 Views
That doesn't make the -unpunished- atrocities disappear, you know. Your point is lame AND moot. Mik - 28/10/2010 07:07:27 PM 1163 Views
Re: That doesn't make the -unpunished- atrocities disappear, you know. Your point is lame AND moot. fionwe1987 - 28/10/2010 07:09:33 PM 1043 Views
Strawman argument, Sid. Mik - 27/10/2010 11:35:40 AM 1122 Views
To echo Darius... fionwe1987 - 23/10/2010 08:34:00 PM 1119 Views
Re: To echo Darius... Mik - 25/10/2010 10:03:14 AM 1119 Views
Go look up the definition of the word atrocity darius_sedai - 25/10/2010 04:53:55 PM 1096 Views
Their implicit role in the genocide of Manetheren was probable their greatest atrocity *NM* Knightscape - 26/10/2010 03:01:01 AM 662 Views
You mean the act that got Tetsuan deposed, Stilled and sentenced to hard labor until she gave up the darius_sedai - 26/10/2010 04:19:45 AM 1357 Views
Ya, the ultimated punishment of cleaning pots and floors NOOOOOOOO!!! Knightscape - 26/10/2010 11:59:51 PM 1109 Views
Maybe you should have done that yourself: "behaviour or an action that is wicked or ruthless" Mik - 27/10/2010 11:11:30 AM 1052 Views
the fact that you can't differentiate between the extermination of an entire village darius_sedai - 27/10/2010 08:30:12 PM 1120 Views
READ; I *did* differentiate between them. It doesn't change the fact all are atrocious deeds Mik - 28/10/2010 09:00:56 AM 1166 Views
darius_sedai - 28/10/2010 05:22:18 PM 1044 Views
You asked for atrocities and you got them. Now you just don't know what to do with them. Mik - 28/10/2010 06:49:16 PM 1134 Views
dude, you gave us a list of petty crimes and compared it to mass murder darius_sedai - 28/10/2010 06:59:33 PM 1101 Views
Complete the thought... fionwe1987 - 28/10/2010 07:11:37 PM 1010 Views
seems I must do so for this guy to understand ... and I'm not holding my breath on that! darius_sedai - 28/10/2010 08:24:57 PM 1164 Views
Rape, murder, starting wars and doing noting about them, kidnap / severe torture of prisoners... *NM* Mik - 28/10/2010 07:51:33 PM 617 Views
again you fail to note that the AS have systems in place to prevent these things darius_sedai - 28/10/2010 08:23:32 PM 1107 Views
Again you fail to note that the AS haven't used those "systems" of theirs Mik - 28/10/2010 09:02:15 PM 1384 Views
What wars did they start? fionwe1987 - 28/10/2010 08:56:46 PM 1009 Views
You should be an Aes Sedai; the way you can twist truth would scare Siuan. Mik - 28/10/2010 09:07:24 PM 1154 Views
Wow... I'm sooo Insulted! fionwe1987 - 28/10/2010 09:23:41 PM 1072 Views
fionwe1987 - 28/10/2010 07:07:57 PM 1177 Views
Take your own advice, please Mik - 28/10/2010 07:30:51 PM 1106 Views
Re: Take your own advice, please Sidious - 28/10/2010 07:44:59 PM 1019 Views
Their own organisation calls it rape. Simple. Mik - 28/10/2010 08:26:49 PM 1157 Views
Re: Take your own advice, please fionwe1987 - 28/10/2010 09:18:17 PM 1268 Views
Come on. Just say it. Real men don't act like catty, bitchy women. *NM* Tom - 20/10/2010 11:14:49 PM 656 Views
"Rightly hold responsible for the threat of the Shadow?" Puh-leeze newyorkersedai - 21/10/2010 12:06:34 AM 1146 Views
Puh-leeze right back at you: Mik - 21/10/2010 08:24:12 AM 1093 Views
The Wheel was created so the DO could break in. The Creator plays his game with the DO thru people newyorkersedai - 21/10/2010 01:45:07 PM 1088 Views
It was you who brought up that silly Real World kitchen example, silly. Mik - 25/10/2010 10:55:29 AM 931 Views
I could say you zinged me, but you're just bent on silliness. Bored now. *NM* newyorkersedai - 25/10/2010 10:54:41 PM 605 Views
Your personal theories do not constitute evidence, and your aberrant logic better supports MY case Cannoli - 21/10/2010 03:21:44 PM 1284 Views
Objection, your honor! Bringing evidentiary rules into this is asinine! *NM* newyorkersedai - 21/10/2010 11:22:19 PM 579 Views
The word "evidence" is not exclusive to the practice of jurisprudence Cannoli - 23/10/2010 03:31:57 PM 1139 Views
Rational thinking. Well, you use the word "deserved" in all caps. Nuff said. *NM* newyorkersedai - 23/10/2010 04:55:02 PM 599 Views
Emphasis means nothing one way or another as far as rationality goes, which you would know... Cannoli - 25/10/2010 01:13:23 AM 1205 Views
You know zilch about my acquaintances. "mk" was wrong - you're not an idiot. But you are ignorable. *NM* newyorkersedai - 25/10/2010 10:57:04 PM 616 Views
fionwe1987 - 21/10/2010 01:47:19 AM 1248 Views
Not so sure about that moratcorlm - 21/10/2010 02:29:02 AM 1181 Views
Re: Not so sure about that fionwe1987 - 21/10/2010 03:57:34 AM 1201 Views
the city is closed to WC Foxhead - 21/10/2010 04:01:45 AM 1198 Views
Re: the city is closed to WC moratcorlm - 21/10/2010 04:55:45 AM 1052 Views
But that is irrelevant. Aes Sedai can also go to Amadicia in disguise. *NM* fionwe1987 - 21/10/2010 05:35:18 AM 555 Views
But they aren't in disguise moratcorlm - 21/10/2010 08:31:38 AM 1092 Views
They don't wear their uniform, their one identifying feature. That is a disguise. fionwe1987 - 21/10/2010 09:08:25 PM 1041 Views
Re: They don't wear their uniform, their one identifying feature. That is a disguise. moratcorlm - 22/10/2010 02:10:07 PM 1145 Views
Don't be ridiculous... fionwe1987 - 22/10/2010 04:52:55 PM 1065 Views
No different moratcorlm - 23/10/2010 02:26:24 PM 1180 Views
CotL are welcome in Tar Valon to have a drink. Aes Sedai are hanged when found in Amadicia.. Mik - 21/10/2010 08:33:03 AM 1187 Views
Here is to hoping Egwene can get her head out of her ass. Hot Pie - 21/10/2010 10:30:10 AM 1157 Views
Now hang on a minute! ˥ɐ ʎpu∀ɹ - 21/10/2010 07:28:45 AM 1302 Views
Re: Now hang on a minute! moratcorlm - 21/10/2010 10:49:34 AM 1188 Views
Re: Now hang on a minute! rAndy aL - 21/10/2010 11:28:55 PM 1186 Views
Re: Now hang on a minute! moratcorlm - 22/10/2010 01:08:14 AM 1145 Views
IMO, the main difference between Egwene & Galad is... Mik - 21/10/2010 12:36:53 PM 1241 Views
it would be an interesting comparison if they weren't completely different organizations Zaphod - 21/10/2010 04:09:31 PM 1240 Views
You! Macharius - 22/10/2010 02:28:07 PM 1183 Views
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