Whole, unbroken order, strong societal rules.
There's nothing to say that channellers are special to the Pattern - the Pattern could just kill off the ability and leave the world in Seanchan rule and things would be fine.
If the Pattern represents Order and the DO is Chaos, then Moridin's taunting of Rand's idea to kill the DO ("I doubt you comprehend the stupidity of your statement"
becomes more interesting. Without the DO to keep humans in check and to be a unifying enemy, the world can succumb to other pitfalls. Not that I advocate for the DO, of course. Just throwing ideas out there.
In other words: What if Seanchan rule is the GOAL of the Pattern?
There's nothing to say that channellers are special to the Pattern - the Pattern could just kill off the ability and leave the world in Seanchan rule and things would be fine.
If the Pattern represents Order and the DO is Chaos, then Moridin's taunting of Rand's idea to kill the DO ("I doubt you comprehend the stupidity of your statement"
becomes more interesting. Without the DO to keep humans in check and to be a unifying enemy, the world can succumb to other pitfalls. Not that I advocate for the DO, of course. Just throwing ideas out there.In other words: What if Seanchan rule is the GOAL of the Pattern?
It's certainly possible, considering the Wheel/Pattern is neither good nor evil.
I do find it interesting though that the last Ta'veren before Rand, Mat, and Perrin was Hawkwing. And since Ta'verens aren't born, but are made as the Wheel needs them to be. And with the Seanchan pretty much an extension of Hawkwings lost empire. There must be some reason or purpose for their continued existence that's already been set in the Pattern.
I personally believe the Seanchan are going to be fighting alongside the Randland forces in the Last Battle, but maybe they're going to play a bigger role in the aftermath. It's all speculation of course, but I think it's an interesting discussion.
Seanchan Takeover of Randland
- 22/01/2011 11:25:36 PM
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I would be mostly okay with it if they abolished slavery first
- 23/01/2011 12:19:48 AM
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Hopefully the Dragon's Peace (not the one Avi saw the effects of) those concerns. *NM*
- 23/01/2011 03:21:04 AM
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You mean utter anarchy and a dangerously stratified society?
- 23/01/2011 07:24:48 AM
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The situation in Seanchan isn't that unique
- 23/01/2011 07:49:28 AM
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there's tons of problems there, but 20+ leaders/royals killed? Disaster anywhere... *NM*
- 23/01/2011 11:38:57 AM
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Funny; Caemlyn's succession crises aren't nearly as bad. *NM*
- 23/01/2011 11:00:45 PM
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Rand deserves some credit, he did get involved early and held the Lion Throne for Elayne. *NM*
- 24/01/2011 08:47:42 AM
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The anarchy is what happens in the absence of Seanchan power.
- 27/01/2011 01:10:56 PM
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Yes. That is a flaw of Seanchan governance.
- 28/01/2011 01:54:00 AM
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It's not the Empire's fault, and that flaw is not being duplicated in the wetlands
- 28/01/2011 11:24:00 PM
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Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years?
- 29/01/2011 02:09:05 AM
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Re: Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years?
- 29/01/2011 01:10:36 PM
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Re: Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years?
- 29/01/2011 10:02:27 PM
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Re: Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years?
- 30/01/2011 03:56:23 AM
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It's like you don't even read anything when you post. My posts, the books themselves...
- 02/02/2011 06:41:10 PM
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They treat channelers like DOGS! so, No. *NM*
- 23/01/2011 07:56:22 AM
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Dogs never broke the world or created Shadowspawn, so they have it coming *NM*
- 27/01/2011 01:07:32 PM
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The Pattern certainly has some plan or purpose for the Seanchan.
- 23/01/2011 10:59:33 AM
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That's what's scary. In many ways, the Seanchan embody the goals of the Pattern
- 23/01/2011 11:41:35 PM
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If we're going to personify things, we should be personifying the Wheel, not the Pattern.
- 24/01/2011 12:13:49 AM
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I think it's interesting
- 24/01/2011 09:23:40 AM
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Re: That's what's scary. In many ways, the Seanchan embody the goals of the Pattern
- 24/01/2011 12:38:38 PM
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Um, no
- 23/01/2011 11:36:24 AM
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look around you again
- 23/01/2011 03:24:01 PM
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Seanchan equality before the law
- 23/01/2011 04:09:54 PM
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Re: Seanchan equality before the law
- 23/01/2011 04:22:28 PM
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a) most of that is your own extrapolation, not shown in the text
- 23/01/2011 04:56:14 PM
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Mostly, yes.
- 23/01/2011 05:57:17 PM
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Re: Mostly, yes.
- 23/01/2011 06:10:10 PM
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I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling.
- 24/01/2011 08:04:21 PM
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Re: I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling.
- 25/01/2011 10:40:58 AM
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Re: I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling.
- 25/01/2011 05:55:13 PM
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Re: I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling.
- 26/01/2011 12:10:54 AM
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"We" don't know of the One Power existing, so obviously it disappears. *NM*
- 26/01/2011 12:14:19 AM
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Lack of knowledge doesn't mean the One Power vanishes or is destroyed.
- 26/01/2011 04:03:22 PM
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If OP still existed, you'd still have sparkers even "today". *NM*
- 26/01/2011 06:34:50 PM
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