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Rand is the Great Serpent entyti Send a noteboard - 08/02/2011 04:21:32 AM
Just want to throw this out there, though it seems so obvious it must have been theorized before, but...

What if the Dragon is the Great Serpent?

To me, it makes a lot of sense. All of the Shadow's bravado in the early books about blinding the Great Serpent suddenly takes on new meaning, as Rand was in effect blinded by the Shadow until this latest book. Even the blurb about letting the "Dragon ride again on the winds of time" on the back of the books seems to take on new meaning, what with the Great Serpent being referred to as the embodiment of time in tEotW.

I think, if I am correct, that looking at Rand in this way may give some insight as to his nature in a grander sense, and potentially give a clue as to how he will ultimately seal the Bore and defeat the Dark One.

Thoughts?
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Rand is the Great Serpent entyti - 08/02/2011 04:21:32 AM 1805 Views
Yeah, that seems logical, funny to see rand bite himself in the ass :p *NM* Kieran - 08/02/2011 06:31:44 AM 521 Views
I want to reply and say that's not exactly how I picture it, but I don't want to be dirty. *NM* Deadsy - 08/02/2011 06:50:17 AM 565 Views
there once was a man from nantucket? *NM* nigelgoboom - 08/02/2011 07:18:47 AM 481 Views
Bwah ha ha! Dirty minds think alike! *NM* Evil_Monkey - 08/02/2011 03:41:30 PM 461 Views
That actually seems cosmically plausible - but I really hope this is not the case RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/02/2011 03:27:29 PM 1143 Views
But that has always been the case. I am astounded that it isn't recognized more often... Shannow - 08/02/2011 03:58:24 PM 1009 Views
This. There's a reason one of his archetypes is the Fisher King. *NM* Ghavrel - 08/02/2011 07:00:05 PM 522 Views
The issue is that the Fisher King story is about the Land, not the People RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/02/2011 08:02:24 PM 923 Views
A good example Kieran - 08/02/2011 08:27:44 PM 946 Views
None of this is contradicted by what I have posited entyti - 08/02/2011 09:16:48 PM 865 Views
But the chess analogy is what I'm seeing - the Dragon is necessary in degree not in total. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/02/2011 02:42:15 PM 1005 Views
Yes, those are the rules in chess... entyti - 10/02/2011 05:34:25 AM 920 Views
The Fisher King is not a messianic myth. Ghavrel - 08/02/2011 10:07:44 PM 982 Views
Fisher King title and legends are connected to the Messianic mythos RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/02/2011 09:47:14 PM 1172 Views
The disciples, not Jesus, were the "fishers of men." EDITED. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 10:08:24 PM 829 Views
Yeah, you're right about the fish - I was reaching (and typed too fast to think) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/02/2011 05:30:29 PM 834 Views
Re: But that has always been the case. I am astounded that it isn't recognized more often... fionwe1987 - 09/02/2011 07:47:14 AM 915 Views
You two are like a married couple without the benefit of the makeup sex. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 09:30:10 AM 1073 Views
*NM* fionwe1987 - 10/02/2011 02:53:17 AM 416 Views
*NM* Sir Tybalt - 10/02/2011 02:52:28 PM 483 Views
Huh? No. You are so off it's not even funny. Velveti - 09/02/2011 03:16:05 AM 1078 Views
Looks like somebody hasn't read The Gathering Storm. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 06:17:55 AM 961 Views
Re: Looks like somebody hasn't read The Gathering Storm. Velveti - 09/02/2011 06:20:21 AM 969 Views
Atop Dragonmount, for one... fionwe1987 - 09/02/2011 07:36:56 AM 988 Views
I'm exhausted, so I may be misremembering. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 09:27:18 AM 947 Views
That was Tam. Gher - 09/02/2011 05:09:45 PM 1004 Views
That is a key difference. Japhy - 09/02/2011 06:38:24 PM 827 Views
Re: Atop Dragonmount, for one... Velveti - 09/02/2011 03:12:02 PM 973 Views
Not at all! fionwe1987 - 10/02/2011 02:58:39 AM 867 Views
You sound like Ishamael RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/02/2011 02:38:52 PM 951 Views
Re: You sound like Ishamael Velveti - 09/02/2011 03:17:58 PM 932 Views
I'm definitely not confusing this with the real world roflmao RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/02/2011 03:54:04 PM 1033 Views
Re: I'm definitely not confusing this with the real world roflmao Velveti - 09/02/2011 06:10:01 PM 1025 Views
Seems to me that you're confused. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/02/2011 08:27:06 PM 775 Views
Seems to me that YOU'RE confused. Velveti - 10/02/2011 02:09:41 AM 956 Views
You might actually want to read what people wrote. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/02/2011 03:13:52 PM 847 Views
The amount of elitism on this board would be depressing if it weren't so damned funny. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 09:18:13 PM 893 Views
What depresses me... entyti - 09/02/2011 11:23:13 PM 824 Views
I, personally, like it. It makes sense for the Dragon to be an incarnation of the Serpent. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 11:39:28 PM 947 Views
I didn't mean to hijack it - other replies did RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/02/2011 02:51:35 PM 905 Views
It is of little consequence entyti - 10/02/2011 05:36:40 PM 873 Views
Relax homeboy. It was a joke. *NM* Velveti - 10/02/2011 02:07:55 AM 496 Views
I guess the DO just has "Serpent Envy?" *NM* newyorkersedai - 12/02/2011 01:13:40 PM 432 Views
*NM* entyti - 12/02/2011 02:47:09 PM 448 Views
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