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Rand is the Great Serpent entyti Send a noteboard - 08/02/2011 04:21:32 AM
Just want to throw this out there, though it seems so obvious it must have been theorized before, but...

What if the Dragon is the Great Serpent?

To me, it makes a lot of sense. All of the Shadow's bravado in the early books about blinding the Great Serpent suddenly takes on new meaning, as Rand was in effect blinded by the Shadow until this latest book. Even the blurb about letting the "Dragon ride again on the winds of time" on the back of the books seems to take on new meaning, what with the Great Serpent being referred to as the embodiment of time in tEotW.

I think, if I am correct, that looking at Rand in this way may give some insight as to his nature in a grander sense, and potentially give a clue as to how he will ultimately seal the Bore and defeat the Dark One.

Thoughts?
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Rand is the Great Serpent entyti - 08/02/2011 04:21:32 AM 1926 Views
Yeah, that seems logical, funny to see rand bite himself in the ass :p *NM* Kieran - 08/02/2011 06:31:44 AM 574 Views
I want to reply and say that's not exactly how I picture it, but I don't want to be dirty. *NM* Deadsy - 08/02/2011 06:50:17 AM 616 Views
there once was a man from nantucket? *NM* nigelgoboom - 08/02/2011 07:18:47 AM 539 Views
Bwah ha ha! Dirty minds think alike! *NM* Evil_Monkey - 08/02/2011 03:41:30 PM 520 Views
That actually seems cosmically plausible - but I really hope this is not the case RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/02/2011 03:27:29 PM 1264 Views
But that has always been the case. I am astounded that it isn't recognized more often... Shannow - 08/02/2011 03:58:24 PM 1143 Views
This. There's a reason one of his archetypes is the Fisher King. *NM* Ghavrel - 08/02/2011 07:00:05 PM 585 Views
The issue is that the Fisher King story is about the Land, not the People RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/02/2011 08:02:24 PM 1062 Views
A good example Kieran - 08/02/2011 08:27:44 PM 1087 Views
None of this is contradicted by what I have posited entyti - 08/02/2011 09:16:48 PM 1017 Views
But the chess analogy is what I'm seeing - the Dragon is necessary in degree not in total. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/02/2011 02:42:15 PM 1126 Views
Yes, those are the rules in chess... entyti - 10/02/2011 05:34:25 AM 1034 Views
The Fisher King is not a messianic myth. Ghavrel - 08/02/2011 10:07:44 PM 1106 Views
Fisher King title and legends are connected to the Messianic mythos RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/02/2011 09:47:14 PM 1302 Views
The disciples, not Jesus, were the "fishers of men." EDITED. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 10:08:24 PM 973 Views
Yeah, you're right about the fish - I was reaching (and typed too fast to think) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/02/2011 05:30:29 PM 991 Views
Re: But that has always been the case. I am astounded that it isn't recognized more often... fionwe1987 - 09/02/2011 07:47:14 AM 1054 Views
You two are like a married couple without the benefit of the makeup sex. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 09:30:10 AM 1181 Views
*NM* fionwe1987 - 10/02/2011 02:53:17 AM 465 Views
*NM* Sir Tybalt - 10/02/2011 02:52:28 PM 531 Views
Huh? No. You are so off it's not even funny. Velveti - 09/02/2011 03:16:05 AM 1208 Views
Looks like somebody hasn't read The Gathering Storm. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 06:17:55 AM 1105 Views
Re: Looks like somebody hasn't read The Gathering Storm. Velveti - 09/02/2011 06:20:21 AM 1092 Views
Atop Dragonmount, for one... fionwe1987 - 09/02/2011 07:36:56 AM 1114 Views
I'm exhausted, so I may be misremembering. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 09:27:18 AM 1061 Views
That was Tam. Gher - 09/02/2011 05:09:45 PM 1139 Views
That is a key difference. Japhy - 09/02/2011 06:38:24 PM 995 Views
Re: Atop Dragonmount, for one... Velveti - 09/02/2011 03:12:02 PM 1104 Views
Not at all! fionwe1987 - 10/02/2011 02:58:39 AM 984 Views
You sound like Ishamael RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/02/2011 02:38:52 PM 1097 Views
Re: You sound like Ishamael Velveti - 09/02/2011 03:17:58 PM 1056 Views
I'm definitely not confusing this with the real world roflmao RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/02/2011 03:54:04 PM 1154 Views
Re: I'm definitely not confusing this with the real world roflmao Velveti - 09/02/2011 06:10:01 PM 1143 Views
Seems to me that you're confused. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/02/2011 08:27:06 PM 901 Views
Seems to me that YOU'RE confused. Velveti - 10/02/2011 02:09:41 AM 1064 Views
You might actually want to read what people wrote. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/02/2011 03:13:52 PM 961 Views
The amount of elitism on this board would be depressing if it weren't so damned funny. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 09:18:13 PM 1022 Views
What depresses me... entyti - 09/02/2011 11:23:13 PM 964 Views
I, personally, like it. It makes sense for the Dragon to be an incarnation of the Serpent. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 11:39:28 PM 1072 Views
I didn't mean to hijack it - other replies did RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/02/2011 02:51:35 PM 1030 Views
It is of little consequence entyti - 10/02/2011 05:36:40 PM 988 Views
Relax homeboy. It was a joke. *NM* Velveti - 10/02/2011 02:07:55 AM 556 Views
I guess the DO just has "Serpent Envy?" *NM* newyorkersedai - 12/02/2011 01:13:40 PM 518 Views
*NM* entyti - 12/02/2011 02:47:09 PM 504 Views
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