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Correct. Shannow Send a noteboard - 14/12/2011 09:43:53 PM
It's been stated multiple times that 'angreals count as a multiplicative of the channelers strength. Angreals double or triple channeler strength. So you want me to believe that Cyndane is as strong as the second strongest channeler alive, times 2?

I'm calling shenanigans.

They were on equal footing because Cyndane knows how to duel with the power, whereas Alivia just knows to stand in one place and blast away.


Sidious is being a bit difficult today. He actually meant what you said, but apparently did not feel the need to elaborate.

You are entirely correct. Jordan said that it was Cyndane's superior knowledge that allowed her to stand toe to toe with Alivia, despite being overwhelmingly outmatched from a strength perspective.
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Underestimating Forsaken strength Nessarra - 11/12/2011 05:57:22 AM 2083 Views
Ah, my favourite topic makes a return... Shannow - 11/12/2011 07:45:29 AM 970 Views
Re: Ah, my favourite topic makes a return... Nessarra - 11/12/2011 10:25:03 PM 980 Views
Yes, you are probably correct Sidious - 12/12/2011 06:26:07 AM 1132 Views
Re: and some of the information given to us is flawed Watcher - 12/12/2011 07:38:59 PM 920 Views
The real question is - What percentage of her full strength did Nynaeve achieve by Book 4? Shannow - 12/12/2011 08:31:30 PM 948 Views
I find that unlikely Sidious - 12/12/2011 09:28:07 PM 903 Views
Easy question for you: Based on the evidence, what percentage of her strength was Nynaeve at in tSR? Shannow - 13/12/2011 07:09:56 AM 962 Views
Well.... Sidious - 13/12/2011 01:12:48 PM 961 Views
Well there we have it Shannow - 13/12/2011 01:36:45 PM 964 Views
Re: Well there we have it Sidious - 13/12/2011 02:06:14 PM 989 Views
Re: Well there we have it Shannow - 13/12/2011 02:12:10 PM 945 Views
Alivia may not even be stronger than Nynaeve... fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 03:14:06 AM 1007 Views
That wouldn't surprise me actually *NM* Sidious - 14/12/2011 07:46:47 AM 506 Views
Where would you place Egwene though? fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 09:13:46 AM 907 Views
Re: Where would you place Egwene though? Sidious - 14/12/2011 12:53:49 PM 905 Views
Bonfire next to a candle indeed. Hehehe... Shannow - 14/12/2011 05:50:34 PM 1068 Views
fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 06:56:40 PM 844 Views
The same "step" you refer to seperates Egwene from normal Aes Sedai according to RJ... Shannow - 14/12/2011 07:14:55 PM 906 Views
Yes! And...? fionwe1987 - 15/12/2011 02:53:37 AM 910 Views
Yes I would agree with that Sidious - 14/12/2011 08:24:35 PM 1054 Views
Alivia with an angreal > > > Cyndane TyrReborn - 14/12/2011 08:50:41 PM 835 Views
No Sidious - 14/12/2011 09:10:34 PM 931 Views
That makes no sense. TyrReborn - 14/12/2011 09:13:48 PM 986 Views
Correct. Shannow - 14/12/2011 09:43:53 PM 947 Views
Re: Correct. Sidious - 15/12/2011 05:54:37 AM 921 Views
So many instances of logical laziness in that post... Shannow - 14/12/2011 10:01:45 PM 1369 Views
Re: So many instances of logical laziness in that post... Sidious - 15/12/2011 06:16:01 AM 870 Views
There's always room for error, and in general I agree with some of your placements... Shannow - 15/12/2011 07:03:01 AM 948 Views
Re: There's always room for error, and in general I agree with some of your placements... Sidious - 17/12/2011 10:25:47 AM 983 Views
Because a difference of a few % is negligible, and not even worth mentioning... Shannow - 17/12/2011 10:54:49 AM 872 Views
How could you possibly use Gateways... fionwe1987 - 17/12/2011 12:40:03 PM 858 Views
Repyling at bottom of thread for space reasons... *NM* Shannow - 17/12/2011 02:57:43 PM 477 Views
Only slight diffence I have is regarding general AS strength darius_sedai - 30/12/2011 04:45:49 PM 932 Views
I think it was just Aes Sedai hyperbole RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2011 09:51:00 PM 765 Views
And entirely based off your shared assumption. Fanatic-Templar - 14/12/2011 05:15:51 AM 991 Views
Actually that's a lot of logical assumption. *NM* LadyLorraine - 13/12/2011 01:28:00 PM 450 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 03:06:15 AM 766 Views
And darius_sedai - 30/12/2011 05:07:13 PM 873 Views
Yes Cannoli - 13/12/2011 04:16:40 PM 1025 Views
Re: Yes RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/12/2011 04:47:17 PM 960 Views
Nah. Beyond the realm of possibility. Sorry, Shannow - 13/12/2011 05:12:40 PM 1013 Views
There are a number of comments from Q&As that shows that this is possible and more complex. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/12/2011 08:23:49 PM 979 Views
None of which I disagree with, but a far cry from women being weaker just due to believing it... Shannow - 13/12/2011 08:39:40 PM 901 Views
But that is my point: it wouldn't be merely force of will. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/12/2011 09:40:17 PM 871 Views
What Rand is doing... fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 03:43:08 AM 995 Views
That would make sense given Min's vision RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/12/2011 04:37:56 PM 811 Views
Wait.. I DIDN'T write that! fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 03:02:04 AM 871 Views
Reply to your question of - "Why use Logain gateway comparison as evidence:" Shannow - 17/12/2011 03:08:19 PM 1019 Views
You're basically saying "correlation equals causation"... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2011 06:18:47 AM 957 Views
On gateways Sidious - 18/12/2011 07:17:09 AM 986 Views
Might assume that Elayne is stronger in the Power than Aviendha. echooff - 19/12/2011 02:40:46 PM 1170 Views
I suspect he knows that... fionwe1987 - 19/12/2011 05:53:00 PM 869 Views
Nope...some maths problems in your post. Shannow - 19/12/2011 07:41:29 PM 906 Views
But 64 square feet is not Elayne's maximum... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2011 02:46:50 AM 867 Views
But Shielding is also relative. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/12/2011 09:35:11 PM 2122 Views
Re: Underestimating Forsaken strength Tedtheman - 22/12/2011 05:24:53 PM 921 Views
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