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But 64 square feet is not Elayne's maximum... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 20/12/2011 02:46:50 AM

On the contrary, 64 square feet is only 44% of 144 square feet, which is probably a truer reflection of Egwene's strength compared to Rand's.

Even at non-maximum strength, Elayne can make something larger than 64 square feet. Large enough that Aviendha detects a difference. Say that is as small as 8.5x8.5, even that is about 50% of Rand's strength, and this is when Elayne isn't at full potential. Since Aviendha says Elayne can make an 8x8 gateway with only a part of her strength, I'd say its more likely that with full strength she can make something like 9.5x9.5, which puts her at 62.67% of Rand's strength at that time.

All this, of course, is based on your idea that strength and Gateway size are connected. Asmodean says different, and Rand's Gateway size remaining the same since tFoH onwards supports what he has to say. Likely, 9.5x9.5, or whatever size gateway Elayne could make in tPoD is going to be her maximum. Like Lews Therin says, she has set her own limit, and gaining strength isn't going to change it.
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Underestimating Forsaken strength Nessarra - 11/12/2011 05:57:22 AM 2289 Views
Ah, my favourite topic makes a return... Shannow - 11/12/2011 07:45:29 AM 1188 Views
Re: Ah, my favourite topic makes a return... Nessarra - 11/12/2011 10:25:03 PM 1177 Views
Yes, you are probably correct Sidious - 12/12/2011 06:26:07 AM 1342 Views
Re: and some of the information given to us is flawed Watcher - 12/12/2011 07:38:59 PM 1103 Views
The real question is - What percentage of her full strength did Nynaeve achieve by Book 4? Shannow - 12/12/2011 08:31:30 PM 1151 Views
I find that unlikely Sidious - 12/12/2011 09:28:07 PM 1084 Views
Easy question for you: Based on the evidence, what percentage of her strength was Nynaeve at in tSR? Shannow - 13/12/2011 07:09:56 AM 1152 Views
Well.... Sidious - 13/12/2011 01:12:48 PM 1171 Views
Well there we have it Shannow - 13/12/2011 01:36:45 PM 1181 Views
Re: Well there we have it Sidious - 13/12/2011 02:06:14 PM 1203 Views
Re: Well there we have it Shannow - 13/12/2011 02:12:10 PM 1156 Views
Alivia may not even be stronger than Nynaeve... fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 03:14:06 AM 1211 Views
That wouldn't surprise me actually *NM* Sidious - 14/12/2011 07:46:47 AM 612 Views
Where would you place Egwene though? fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 09:13:46 AM 1080 Views
Re: Where would you place Egwene though? Sidious - 14/12/2011 12:53:49 PM 1100 Views
Bonfire next to a candle indeed. Hehehe... Shannow - 14/12/2011 05:50:34 PM 1252 Views
fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 06:56:40 PM 1035 Views
The same "step" you refer to seperates Egwene from normal Aes Sedai according to RJ... Shannow - 14/12/2011 07:14:55 PM 1112 Views
Yes! And...? fionwe1987 - 15/12/2011 02:53:37 AM 1097 Views
Yes I would agree with that Sidious - 14/12/2011 08:24:35 PM 1244 Views
Alivia with an angreal > > > Cyndane TyrReborn - 14/12/2011 08:50:41 PM 1029 Views
No Sidious - 14/12/2011 09:10:34 PM 1114 Views
That makes no sense. TyrReborn - 14/12/2011 09:13:48 PM 1169 Views
Correct. Shannow - 14/12/2011 09:43:53 PM 1153 Views
Re: Correct. Sidious - 15/12/2011 05:54:37 AM 1107 Views
So many instances of logical laziness in that post... Shannow - 14/12/2011 10:01:45 PM 1561 Views
Re: So many instances of logical laziness in that post... Sidious - 15/12/2011 06:16:01 AM 1062 Views
There's always room for error, and in general I agree with some of your placements... Shannow - 15/12/2011 07:03:01 AM 1140 Views
Re: There's always room for error, and in general I agree with some of your placements... Sidious - 17/12/2011 10:25:47 AM 1173 Views
Because a difference of a few % is negligible, and not even worth mentioning... Shannow - 17/12/2011 10:54:49 AM 1074 Views
How could you possibly use Gateways... fionwe1987 - 17/12/2011 12:40:03 PM 1056 Views
Repyling at bottom of thread for space reasons... *NM* Shannow - 17/12/2011 02:57:43 PM 581 Views
Only slight diffence I have is regarding general AS strength darius_sedai - 30/12/2011 04:45:49 PM 1139 Views
I think it was just Aes Sedai hyperbole RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2011 09:51:00 PM 945 Views
And entirely based off your shared assumption. Fanatic-Templar - 14/12/2011 05:15:51 AM 1184 Views
Actually that's a lot of logical assumption. *NM* LadyLorraine - 13/12/2011 01:28:00 PM 557 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 03:06:15 AM 946 Views
And darius_sedai - 30/12/2011 05:07:13 PM 1064 Views
Yes Cannoli - 13/12/2011 04:16:40 PM 1221 Views
Re: Yes RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/12/2011 04:47:17 PM 1169 Views
Nah. Beyond the realm of possibility. Sorry, Shannow - 13/12/2011 05:12:40 PM 1202 Views
There are a number of comments from Q&As that shows that this is possible and more complex. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/12/2011 08:23:49 PM 1180 Views
None of which I disagree with, but a far cry from women being weaker just due to believing it... Shannow - 13/12/2011 08:39:40 PM 1100 Views
But that is my point: it wouldn't be merely force of will. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/12/2011 09:40:17 PM 1069 Views
What Rand is doing... fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 03:43:08 AM 1203 Views
That would make sense given Min's vision RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/12/2011 04:37:56 PM 999 Views
Wait.. I DIDN'T write that! fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 03:02:04 AM 1057 Views
Reply to your question of - "Why use Logain gateway comparison as evidence:" Shannow - 17/12/2011 03:08:19 PM 1216 Views
You're basically saying "correlation equals causation"... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2011 06:18:47 AM 1152 Views
On gateways Sidious - 18/12/2011 07:17:09 AM 1187 Views
Might assume that Elayne is stronger in the Power than Aviendha. echooff - 19/12/2011 02:40:46 PM 1380 Views
I suspect he knows that... fionwe1987 - 19/12/2011 05:53:00 PM 1064 Views
Nope...some maths problems in your post. Shannow - 19/12/2011 07:41:29 PM 1101 Views
But 64 square feet is not Elayne's maximum... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2011 02:46:50 AM 1058 Views
But Shielding is also relative. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/12/2011 09:35:11 PM 2328 Views
Re: Underestimating Forsaken strength Tedtheman - 22/12/2011 05:24:53 PM 1124 Views
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