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And darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 30/12/2011 05:07:13 PM

It is obvious that if Nynaeve is not even at her full strength in Winter's Heart yet, then she must have been very far removed from her full strength when she matched Moghedien back in Shadow Rising.

That is not true at all. Women grow in strength steadily, and Nynaeve and Elayne haven't been forced to the extent Egwene has. Which means, even with a few jumps, Nynaeve's strength need not have risen all that much in the few months between tSR and WH. It just seems like a long time because the books came out less than once a year, but the real time difference between these two books isn't all that great.



There was significantly more time between Nynaeve first being in the Tower and her facing Moghedien than there was between that fight and the events of Winters Heart. The whole series has taken place in roughly a two year span, TSR was more than half way through the timeline even though it's an early book. Nynaeve could have conceivably been 90% when she faced Moghedien and 95% by WH. Same with Rand facing Asmodean... All of the main characters who are channelers grew in strength rapidly at the beginning and have slowed down since.
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Underestimating Forsaken strength Nessarra - 11/12/2011 05:57:22 AM 1989 Views
Ah, my favourite topic makes a return... Shannow - 11/12/2011 07:45:29 AM 888 Views
Re: Ah, my favourite topic makes a return... Nessarra - 11/12/2011 10:25:03 PM 883 Views
Yes, you are probably correct Sidious - 12/12/2011 06:26:07 AM 1014 Views
Re: and some of the information given to us is flawed Watcher - 12/12/2011 07:38:59 PM 820 Views
The real question is - What percentage of her full strength did Nynaeve achieve by Book 4? Shannow - 12/12/2011 08:31:30 PM 846 Views
I find that unlikely Sidious - 12/12/2011 09:28:07 PM 807 Views
Easy question for you: Based on the evidence, what percentage of her strength was Nynaeve at in tSR? Shannow - 13/12/2011 07:09:56 AM 859 Views
Well.... Sidious - 13/12/2011 01:12:48 PM 846 Views
Well there we have it Shannow - 13/12/2011 01:36:45 PM 851 Views
Re: Well there we have it Sidious - 13/12/2011 02:06:14 PM 887 Views
Re: Well there we have it Shannow - 13/12/2011 02:12:10 PM 826 Views
Alivia may not even be stronger than Nynaeve... fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 03:14:06 AM 902 Views
That wouldn't surprise me actually *NM* Sidious - 14/12/2011 07:46:47 AM 455 Views
Where would you place Egwene though? fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 09:13:46 AM 806 Views
Re: Where would you place Egwene though? Sidious - 14/12/2011 12:53:49 PM 781 Views
Bonfire next to a candle indeed. Hehehe... Shannow - 14/12/2011 05:50:34 PM 957 Views
fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 06:56:40 PM 755 Views
The same "step" you refer to seperates Egwene from normal Aes Sedai according to RJ... Shannow - 14/12/2011 07:14:55 PM 779 Views
Yes! And...? fionwe1987 - 15/12/2011 02:53:37 AM 795 Views
Yes I would agree with that Sidious - 14/12/2011 08:24:35 PM 938 Views
Alivia with an angreal > > > Cyndane TyrReborn - 14/12/2011 08:50:41 PM 729 Views
No Sidious - 14/12/2011 09:10:34 PM 811 Views
That makes no sense. TyrReborn - 14/12/2011 09:13:48 PM 881 Views
Correct. Shannow - 14/12/2011 09:43:53 PM 816 Views
Re: Correct. Sidious - 15/12/2011 05:54:37 AM 810 Views
So many instances of logical laziness in that post... Shannow - 14/12/2011 10:01:45 PM 1253 Views
Re: So many instances of logical laziness in that post... Sidious - 15/12/2011 06:16:01 AM 751 Views
There's always room for error, and in general I agree with some of your placements... Shannow - 15/12/2011 07:03:01 AM 831 Views
Re: There's always room for error, and in general I agree with some of your placements... Sidious - 17/12/2011 10:25:47 AM 870 Views
Because a difference of a few % is negligible, and not even worth mentioning... Shannow - 17/12/2011 10:54:49 AM 739 Views
How could you possibly use Gateways... fionwe1987 - 17/12/2011 12:40:03 PM 760 Views
Repyling at bottom of thread for space reasons... *NM* Shannow - 17/12/2011 02:57:43 PM 424 Views
Only slight diffence I have is regarding general AS strength darius_sedai - 30/12/2011 04:45:49 PM 822 Views
I think it was just Aes Sedai hyperbole RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2011 09:51:00 PM 676 Views
And entirely based off your shared assumption. Fanatic-Templar - 14/12/2011 05:15:51 AM 880 Views
Actually that's a lot of logical assumption. *NM* LadyLorraine - 13/12/2011 01:28:00 PM 392 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 03:06:15 AM 680 Views
And darius_sedai - 30/12/2011 05:07:13 PM 783 Views
Yes Cannoli - 13/12/2011 04:16:40 PM 948 Views
Re: Yes RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/12/2011 04:47:17 PM 849 Views
Nah. Beyond the realm of possibility. Sorry, Shannow - 13/12/2011 05:12:40 PM 903 Views
There are a number of comments from Q&As that shows that this is possible and more complex. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/12/2011 08:23:49 PM 871 Views
None of which I disagree with, but a far cry from women being weaker just due to believing it... Shannow - 13/12/2011 08:39:40 PM 775 Views
But that is my point: it wouldn't be merely force of will. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/12/2011 09:40:17 PM 762 Views
What Rand is doing... fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 03:43:08 AM 880 Views
That would make sense given Min's vision RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/12/2011 04:37:56 PM 695 Views
Wait.. I DIDN'T write that! fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 03:02:04 AM 776 Views
Reply to your question of - "Why use Logain gateway comparison as evidence:" Shannow - 17/12/2011 03:08:19 PM 875 Views
You're basically saying "correlation equals causation"... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2011 06:18:47 AM 816 Views
On gateways Sidious - 18/12/2011 07:17:09 AM 845 Views
Might assume that Elayne is stronger in the Power than Aviendha. echooff - 19/12/2011 02:40:46 PM 1045 Views
I suspect he knows that... fionwe1987 - 19/12/2011 05:53:00 PM 762 Views
Nope...some maths problems in your post. Shannow - 19/12/2011 07:41:29 PM 802 Views
But 64 square feet is not Elayne's maximum... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2011 02:46:50 AM 757 Views
But Shielding is also relative. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/12/2011 09:35:11 PM 2009 Views
Re: Underestimating Forsaken strength Tedtheman - 22/12/2011 05:24:53 PM 799 Views
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