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Using the True Power to win Tarmon Gai'don goes against every moral in the series. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 07/03/2012 07:00:02 AM
On a purely practical level, why would Shai'tan allow it? The True Power is not an impersonal power source like the True Source, it's Shai'tan essence. Even if you contend that his link with Moridin will allow him access, even Ishamael needed to beg Shai'tan's support, see their confrontation at the end of The Dragon Reborn.

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What's so special about Callandor? Sidious - 06/03/2012 07:31:40 PM 2334 Views
Honestly, I'm more curious about the "Dragon-only" barrier that surrounded it beetnemesis - 06/03/2012 09:16:15 PM 1279 Views
I also think the flaw might be deliberate Sidious - 06/03/2012 09:56:02 PM 1350 Views
Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate DomA - 07/03/2012 04:11:21 AM 1380 Views
Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate Sidious - 07/03/2012 10:31:39 AM 1239 Views
Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate DomA - 07/03/2012 10:55:56 PM 1275 Views
RJ addressed this ... I had a similar thought several years back and this quote was floated my way darius_sedai - 07/03/2012 04:18:01 AM 1266 Views
Hmm.... Sidious - 07/03/2012 01:50:07 PM 1198 Views
Very similar to what you are getting at as I recall darius_sedai - 07/03/2012 02:00:56 PM 1087 Views
Using the True Power to win Tarmon Gai'don goes against every moral in the series. Fanatic-Templar - 07/03/2012 07:00:02 AM 1118 Views
actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues Sidious - 07/03/2012 10:36:03 AM 1042 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues Fanatic-Templar - 07/03/2012 06:02:48 PM 1121 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues Sidious - 07/03/2012 06:18:16 PM 1070 Views
If anything the Dark One WANTS Lews Therin to use the TP *NM* mogi67 - 07/03/2012 09:43:20 PM 666 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues Fanatic-Templar - 07/03/2012 11:38:56 PM 1265 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues Sidious - 10/03/2012 11:52:23 AM 1282 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues Fanatic-Templar - 10/03/2012 06:40:00 PM 1097 Views
Have to agree with you on this darius_sedai - 12/03/2012 01:17:06 AM 1097 Views
Re: Have to agree with you on this DomA - 12/03/2012 02:36:13 PM 1069 Views
Fain has become so much more than human. We have no real sense of the limits of his power darius_sedai - 18/03/2012 11:21:54 PM 964 Views
Shai'tan is the opposite half of the Creator. Fanatic-Templar - 19/03/2012 01:44:31 AM 950 Views
I actually don't see it that way darius_sedai - 19/03/2012 03:37:26 AM 1123 Views
depends how you look at it Sidious - 19/03/2012 10:41:28 AM 1159 Views
Re: depends how you look at it Gartax - 19/03/2012 01:07:21 PM 911 Views
Re: depends how you look at it DomA - 19/03/2012 08:12:17 PM 1040 Views
Odds are you are correct darius_sedai - 19/03/2012 11:45:03 PM 900 Views
Re: depends how you look at it Gartax - 20/03/2012 12:51:48 PM 912 Views
The DO did not not destroy Mashadar alone darius_sedai - 19/03/2012 11:42:21 PM 943 Views
That's not correct. Fanatic-Templar - 20/03/2012 01:55:05 AM 942 Views
Saidin and the True Power both touched Mashadar darius_sedai - 20/03/2012 01:11:17 PM 1221 Views
Re: Saidin and the True Power both touched Mashadar Fanatic-Templar - 20/03/2012 04:27:33 PM 869 Views
Re: Saidin and the True Power both touched Mashadar Gartax - 20/03/2012 04:57:08 PM 1210 Views
You explantion is DomA - 20/03/2012 06:17:52 PM 961 Views
Agreed *NM* darius_sedai - 19/03/2012 11:40:40 PM 500 Views
RJ Quote: Fanatic-Templar - 19/03/2012 06:52:12 PM 907 Views
Exactly DomA - 19/03/2012 08:54:22 PM 1257 Views
Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction darius_sedai - 19/03/2012 11:48:20 PM 901 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction Gartax - 20/03/2012 01:06:20 PM 942 Views
My point with imagination is simply that destruction only does 1 thing darius_sedai - 20/03/2012 01:14:55 PM 1099 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction Fanatic-Templar - 20/03/2012 04:35:17 PM 925 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction Gartax - 20/03/2012 04:59:13 PM 903 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction Fanatic-Templar - 20/03/2012 08:57:35 PM 1030 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction Gartax - 21/03/2012 01:09:13 PM 969 Views
Yep . Fanatic-Templar - 21/03/2012 04:51:15 PM 905 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues Sidious - 14/03/2012 12:15:36 PM 1051 Views
except the TP is not just a tool. LadyLorraine - 14/03/2012 01:41:17 PM 1120 Views
No, the Choedan Kal was a tool. Fanatic-Templar - 14/03/2012 05:20:53 PM 849 Views
Sounds like the One Ring guttering flame - 04/05/2012 03:55:01 PM 1057 Views
I totally agree with you on both issues Ben DomA - 07/03/2012 11:44:42 PM 1206 Views
No, I don't agree Sidious - 10/03/2012 12:11:37 PM 1136 Views
That makes no sense... fionwe1987 - 10/03/2012 09:21:19 PM 973 Views
Re: That makes no sense... rosco12 - 11/03/2012 12:25:53 AM 1005 Views
Name an existing well that has that much power, though. fionwe1987 - 11/03/2012 01:11:40 AM 934 Views
He makes a good point though. Fanatic-Templar - 11/03/2012 05:49:59 AM 987 Views
Yes, but... fionwe1987 - 11/03/2012 06:17:25 AM 933 Views
Re: Yes, but... Fanatic-Templar - 11/03/2012 06:47:43 PM 943 Views
I found a couple of quote rosco12 - 12/03/2012 12:00:36 AM 1131 Views
Yeah, I looked through Terez' quote database. Fanatic-Templar - 12/03/2012 12:46:38 AM 945 Views
Re: That makes no sense... Sidious - 11/03/2012 08:54:11 AM 1096 Views
Re: That makes no sense... DomA - 12/03/2012 02:15:19 PM 1168 Views
Re: No, I don't agree DomA - 12/03/2012 01:49:10 PM 1148 Views
How the Three can become One using the True Power...mindtraps of Moggy and Cyndane... Shannow - 12/03/2012 06:04:22 PM 1036 Views
Whether it happens or not, it might explain the choice of mind trap victims JasonD - 13/03/2012 06:43:45 AM 1202 Views
Re: Whether it happens or not, it might explain the choice of mind trap victims MikeyMikeyMikey - 13/03/2012 05:19:21 PM 954 Views
That's what I meant JasonD - 18/03/2012 11:13:19 PM 1034 Views
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