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I actually don't see it that way darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 19/03/2012 03:37:26 AM
Padan Fain is a being that crawls on the surface of Creation, bound and defined by it. Padan Fain is as likely to be the next Dark One as Rand is liable to be the next Creator.


I see Shai'Tan as a force of corruption, not an "opposite" to the creator ... Which is how I see the power of Fain/Mordeth ... There is zero evidence that either can actually match the Creator ... In fact, the Creator sends an Avatar against the DO ... Which leads me to believe the Creator is 1. More powerful and 2. More of a neutral force than the source of all "Good" ... The Creator seems much more likely to care about saving it's creation than concepts such as "good" and "evil". If the Creator was a force for "Good" there would be NO evil in the world ... Which we know is not true even before the Bore was opened. There were Binders and people like Semirhage even before the Bore and the Collapse.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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What's so special about Callandor? Sidious - 06/03/2012 07:31:40 PM 2195 Views
Honestly, I'm more curious about the "Dragon-only" barrier that surrounded it beetnemesis - 06/03/2012 09:16:15 PM 1142 Views
I also think the flaw might be deliberate Sidious - 06/03/2012 09:56:02 PM 1205 Views
Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate DomA - 07/03/2012 04:11:21 AM 1269 Views
Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate Sidious - 07/03/2012 10:31:39 AM 1105 Views
Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate DomA - 07/03/2012 10:55:56 PM 1134 Views
RJ addressed this ... I had a similar thought several years back and this quote was floated my way darius_sedai - 07/03/2012 04:18:01 AM 1154 Views
Hmm.... Sidious - 07/03/2012 01:50:07 PM 1077 Views
Very similar to what you are getting at as I recall darius_sedai - 07/03/2012 02:00:56 PM 965 Views
Using the True Power to win Tarmon Gai'don goes against every moral in the series. Fanatic-Templar - 07/03/2012 07:00:02 AM 1017 Views
actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues Sidious - 07/03/2012 10:36:03 AM 908 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues Fanatic-Templar - 07/03/2012 06:02:48 PM 997 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues Sidious - 07/03/2012 06:18:16 PM 931 Views
If anything the Dark One WANTS Lews Therin to use the TP *NM* mogi67 - 07/03/2012 09:43:20 PM 598 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues Fanatic-Templar - 07/03/2012 11:38:56 PM 1118 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues Sidious - 10/03/2012 11:52:23 AM 1117 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues Fanatic-Templar - 10/03/2012 06:40:00 PM 993 Views
Have to agree with you on this darius_sedai - 12/03/2012 01:17:06 AM 971 Views
Re: Have to agree with you on this DomA - 12/03/2012 02:36:13 PM 949 Views
Fain has become so much more than human. We have no real sense of the limits of his power darius_sedai - 18/03/2012 11:21:54 PM 851 Views
Shai'tan is the opposite half of the Creator. Fanatic-Templar - 19/03/2012 01:44:31 AM 835 Views
I actually don't see it that way darius_sedai - 19/03/2012 03:37:26 AM 998 Views
depends how you look at it Sidious - 19/03/2012 10:41:28 AM 1051 Views
Re: depends how you look at it Gartax - 19/03/2012 01:07:21 PM 781 Views
Re: depends how you look at it DomA - 19/03/2012 08:12:17 PM 913 Views
Odds are you are correct darius_sedai - 19/03/2012 11:45:03 PM 779 Views
Re: depends how you look at it Gartax - 20/03/2012 12:51:48 PM 747 Views
The DO did not not destroy Mashadar alone darius_sedai - 19/03/2012 11:42:21 PM 804 Views
That's not correct. Fanatic-Templar - 20/03/2012 01:55:05 AM 812 Views
Saidin and the True Power both touched Mashadar darius_sedai - 20/03/2012 01:11:17 PM 1084 Views
Re: Saidin and the True Power both touched Mashadar Fanatic-Templar - 20/03/2012 04:27:33 PM 737 Views
Re: Saidin and the True Power both touched Mashadar Gartax - 20/03/2012 04:57:08 PM 1092 Views
You explantion is DomA - 20/03/2012 06:17:52 PM 841 Views
Agreed *NM* darius_sedai - 19/03/2012 11:40:40 PM 423 Views
RJ Quote: Fanatic-Templar - 19/03/2012 06:52:12 PM 801 Views
Exactly DomA - 19/03/2012 08:54:22 PM 1103 Views
Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction darius_sedai - 19/03/2012 11:48:20 PM 790 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction Gartax - 20/03/2012 01:06:20 PM 816 Views
My point with imagination is simply that destruction only does 1 thing darius_sedai - 20/03/2012 01:14:55 PM 959 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction Fanatic-Templar - 20/03/2012 04:35:17 PM 804 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction Gartax - 20/03/2012 04:59:13 PM 793 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction Fanatic-Templar - 20/03/2012 08:57:35 PM 895 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction Gartax - 21/03/2012 01:09:13 PM 840 Views
Yep . Fanatic-Templar - 21/03/2012 04:51:15 PM 811 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues Sidious - 14/03/2012 12:15:36 PM 923 Views
except the TP is not just a tool. LadyLorraine - 14/03/2012 01:41:17 PM 990 Views
No, the Choedan Kal was a tool. Fanatic-Templar - 14/03/2012 05:20:53 PM 725 Views
Sounds like the One Ring guttering flame - 04/05/2012 03:55:01 PM 942 Views
I totally agree with you on both issues Ben DomA - 07/03/2012 11:44:42 PM 1065 Views
No, I don't agree Sidious - 10/03/2012 12:11:37 PM 1018 Views
That makes no sense... fionwe1987 - 10/03/2012 09:21:19 PM 854 Views
Re: That makes no sense... rosco12 - 11/03/2012 12:25:53 AM 856 Views
Name an existing well that has that much power, though. fionwe1987 - 11/03/2012 01:11:40 AM 820 Views
He makes a good point though. Fanatic-Templar - 11/03/2012 05:49:59 AM 847 Views
Yes, but... fionwe1987 - 11/03/2012 06:17:25 AM 798 Views
Re: Yes, but... Fanatic-Templar - 11/03/2012 06:47:43 PM 834 Views
I found a couple of quote rosco12 - 12/03/2012 12:00:36 AM 1016 Views
Yeah, I looked through Terez' quote database. Fanatic-Templar - 12/03/2012 12:46:38 AM 832 Views
Re: That makes no sense... Sidious - 11/03/2012 08:54:11 AM 972 Views
Re: That makes no sense... DomA - 12/03/2012 02:15:19 PM 1040 Views
Re: No, I don't agree DomA - 12/03/2012 01:49:10 PM 1019 Views
How the Three can become One using the True Power...mindtraps of Moggy and Cyndane... Shannow - 12/03/2012 06:04:22 PM 907 Views
Whether it happens or not, it might explain the choice of mind trap victims JasonD - 13/03/2012 06:43:45 AM 1040 Views
Re: Whether it happens or not, it might explain the choice of mind trap victims MikeyMikeyMikey - 13/03/2012 05:19:21 PM 835 Views
That's what I meant JasonD - 18/03/2012 11:13:19 PM 953 Views
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