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So what you're saying... Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 07/04/2012 10:07:59 PM
... is that the Rhuidean Prophecy delivered to the Aiel is about how Rand will destroy the Tuatha'an, except for a remnant of a remnant? Why would such a prophecy be given to the Aiel?

Especially given that the Rhuidean Prophecy says: Of the blood, but not raised by the blood, he will come from Rhuidean at dawn and tie you together with bonds you cannot break. He will take you back, and he will destroy you.”

It seems far more reasonable to assume that the four "you"s in that passage refer to the same group, and we can already presume that the first three apply to the Aiel, not to the Tuatha'an (indeed, Rand has done nothing for the Tuatha'an at all).
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Aviendha, the columns, and the Seanchan - 03/04/2012 04:29:31 PM 2041 Views
As far as I understand it, that future is impossible anyway. - 03/04/2012 07:30:52 PM 1069 Views
Depends on how one defines Aiel - 04/04/2012 04:11:11 AM 1017 Views
There are more than there were before. - 04/04/2012 07:03:27 AM 1033 Views
But when the prophesy was made there many followers - 04/04/2012 10:10:54 AM 935 Views
The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 04/04/2012 06:28:47 PM 1033 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 05/04/2012 01:41:23 AM 1240 Views
Well that more than covers it *NM* - 05/04/2012 04:43:53 AM 499 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 05/04/2012 07:39:04 AM 1084 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 05/04/2012 02:14:37 PM 1310 Views
For the record I agree that the visions are not true either - 05/04/2012 02:25:47 PM 1014 Views
Re: For the record I agree that the visions are not true either - 05/04/2012 11:36:53 PM 982 Views
Yes, I was thinking of the Aiel's suicidal traditions as well. - 05/04/2012 06:24:56 PM 934 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 06/04/2012 10:51:00 PM 977 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 06/04/2012 10:38:24 PM 1235 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 07/04/2012 06:27:27 AM 926 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 07/04/2012 07:23:03 PM 890 Views
So what you're saying... - 07/04/2012 10:07:59 PM 830 Views
What I am saying is that it's not a "pure bloodline" that makes one an Aiel - 08/04/2012 12:16:10 AM 932 Views
I never said it was. - 08/04/2012 12:43:26 AM 993 Views
Actually you did In your above post you speak of the Tinkers as not Aiel because they have been - 08/04/2012 06:09:01 AM 931 Views
No... - 08/04/2012 07:12:22 AM 1051 Views
You have no evidence that the Tuath'an are mostly comprised of runaways etc - 08/04/2012 05:16:54 PM 1019 Views
Re: You have no evidence that the Tuath'an are mostly comprised of runaways etc - 08/04/2012 06:43:27 PM 1042 Views
Re: You have no evidence that the Tuath'an are mostly comprised of runaways etc - 08/04/2012 07:52:10 PM 827 Views
Thanks for that. - 09/04/2012 02:38:25 AM 760 Views
Red hair is double recessive ... Doesn't take much to eliminate it from the gene pool. There could - 08/04/2012 11:22:36 PM 972 Views
You are consistently making the same mistake. - 09/04/2012 02:45:46 AM 827 Views
They are the same thing. The remnant of a remnant are Aiel - 10/04/2012 05:04:55 AM 970 Views
No. They are not. - 10/04/2012 05:42:29 AM 863 Views
Never said the remnant of the remnant was the whole of the Aiel - 10/04/2012 05:45:47 PM 884 Views
You said that redefining the Aiel would allow Aviendha's vision to be possible. - 10/04/2012 06:53:51 PM 1058 Views
No , I said there were many ways to interpret the statement based on how one defines Aiel - 10/04/2012 07:36:11 PM 830 Views
All of which is entirely irrelevant. - 10/04/2012 07:38:29 PM 843 Views
Actually it states he will save a remnant of a remnant - 10/04/2012 07:47:04 PM 915 Views
Re: Actually it states he will save a remnant of a remnant - 11/04/2012 01:40:36 AM 902 Views
That is what I just said - 14/04/2012 01:41:56 AM 865 Views
What is important about that? - 14/04/2012 04:35:55 AM 843 Views
The importance is that the prophesy says that Rand - 14/04/2012 06:06:31 PM 1007 Views
So what you're saying is... - 14/04/2012 09:45:36 PM 896 Views
That's exactly it - 14/04/2012 11:21:25 PM 959 Views
Good. - 15/04/2012 02:01:14 AM 988 Views
He sets it in motion, thus his actions lead to it - 15/04/2012 02:55:13 PM 840 Views
Yes, but in that case, he is responsible for everything, ever. - 15/04/2012 05:29:31 PM 948 Views
We are interpreting Prophesy here ... Direct v. Indirect actions are what we are discussing - 15/04/2012 07:21:29 PM 851 Views
Re: We are interpreting Prophesy here ... Direct v. Indirect actions are what we are discussing - 17/04/2012 04:18:32 AM 1046 Views
Depends on how you look at the Prophesy - 18/04/2012 01:45:23 PM 794 Views
Of course, but the point of my example was... - 17/04/2012 06:08:09 PM 837 Views
Where are you getting this happens over thousands of years? - 18/04/2012 01:47:42 PM 822 Views
Because that was the important part of that post. - 18/04/2012 05:28:10 PM 964 Views
Don't know when this became about winning - 19/04/2012 02:08:16 AM 752 Views
Re: I never said it was. - 18/04/2012 12:37:23 AM 1022 Views
Re: As far as I understand it, that future is impossible anyway. - 04/04/2012 07:16:13 AM 1058 Views
Re: As far as I understand it, that future is impossible anyway. - 06/04/2012 10:33:00 PM 959 Views
Thank you for that analysis. *NM* - 17/04/2012 12:36:08 AM 473 Views

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