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Never said the remnant of the remnant was the whole of the Aiel darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 10/04/2012 05:45:47 PM
In fact I said the opposite. There are people like the Tuatha'an that are inclusive of the original Aiel population and those who ran away from Hold and Clan that have moved around to a variety of places. These people are not included in Aviendha's vision and could very well be who the remnant is in reference. You cannot make a blanket statement that Aviendha's vision is untrue because the remnant doesn't survive when we have no way of knowing what happened to a portion of the Aiel population.

My entire point has been the Aiel are larger than just the group living in the Waste and Aviendha's vision only speaks to that group and to the portion of that group that stood and opposed the Seanchan and lost... The Prophetic remnant could easily still be living The Way in some portion of that future and the Prophesy would have been fulfilled.
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Aviendha, the columns, and the Seanchan - 03/04/2012 04:29:31 PM 2044 Views
As far as I understand it, that future is impossible anyway. - 03/04/2012 07:30:52 PM 1071 Views
Depends on how one defines Aiel - 04/04/2012 04:11:11 AM 1018 Views
There are more than there were before. - 04/04/2012 07:03:27 AM 1034 Views
But when the prophesy was made there many followers - 04/04/2012 10:10:54 AM 936 Views
The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 04/04/2012 06:28:47 PM 1036 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 05/04/2012 01:41:23 AM 1240 Views
Well that more than covers it *NM* - 05/04/2012 04:43:53 AM 500 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 05/04/2012 07:39:04 AM 1085 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 05/04/2012 02:14:37 PM 1312 Views
For the record I agree that the visions are not true either - 05/04/2012 02:25:47 PM 1017 Views
Re: For the record I agree that the visions are not true either - 05/04/2012 11:36:53 PM 982 Views
Yes, I was thinking of the Aiel's suicidal traditions as well. - 05/04/2012 06:24:56 PM 937 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 06/04/2012 10:51:00 PM 978 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 06/04/2012 10:38:24 PM 1238 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 07/04/2012 06:27:27 AM 927 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 07/04/2012 07:23:03 PM 891 Views
So what you're saying... - 07/04/2012 10:07:59 PM 831 Views
What I am saying is that it's not a "pure bloodline" that makes one an Aiel - 08/04/2012 12:16:10 AM 933 Views
I never said it was. - 08/04/2012 12:43:26 AM 995 Views
Actually you did In your above post you speak of the Tinkers as not Aiel because they have been - 08/04/2012 06:09:01 AM 933 Views
No... - 08/04/2012 07:12:22 AM 1053 Views
You have no evidence that the Tuath'an are mostly comprised of runaways etc - 08/04/2012 05:16:54 PM 1020 Views
Re: You have no evidence that the Tuath'an are mostly comprised of runaways etc - 08/04/2012 06:43:27 PM 1043 Views
Re: You have no evidence that the Tuath'an are mostly comprised of runaways etc - 08/04/2012 07:52:10 PM 830 Views
Thanks for that. - 09/04/2012 02:38:25 AM 761 Views
Red hair is double recessive ... Doesn't take much to eliminate it from the gene pool. There could - 08/04/2012 11:22:36 PM 974 Views
You are consistently making the same mistake. - 09/04/2012 02:45:46 AM 828 Views
They are the same thing. The remnant of a remnant are Aiel - 10/04/2012 05:04:55 AM 971 Views
No. They are not. - 10/04/2012 05:42:29 AM 863 Views
Never said the remnant of the remnant was the whole of the Aiel - 10/04/2012 05:45:47 PM 885 Views
You said that redefining the Aiel would allow Aviendha's vision to be possible. - 10/04/2012 06:53:51 PM 1059 Views
No , I said there were many ways to interpret the statement based on how one defines Aiel - 10/04/2012 07:36:11 PM 831 Views
All of which is entirely irrelevant. - 10/04/2012 07:38:29 PM 844 Views
Actually it states he will save a remnant of a remnant - 10/04/2012 07:47:04 PM 916 Views
Re: Actually it states he will save a remnant of a remnant - 11/04/2012 01:40:36 AM 903 Views
That is what I just said - 14/04/2012 01:41:56 AM 866 Views
What is important about that? - 14/04/2012 04:35:55 AM 844 Views
The importance is that the prophesy says that Rand - 14/04/2012 06:06:31 PM 1008 Views
So what you're saying is... - 14/04/2012 09:45:36 PM 897 Views
That's exactly it - 14/04/2012 11:21:25 PM 960 Views
Good. - 15/04/2012 02:01:14 AM 990 Views
He sets it in motion, thus his actions lead to it - 15/04/2012 02:55:13 PM 841 Views
Yes, but in that case, he is responsible for everything, ever. - 15/04/2012 05:29:31 PM 949 Views
We are interpreting Prophesy here ... Direct v. Indirect actions are what we are discussing - 15/04/2012 07:21:29 PM 852 Views
Re: We are interpreting Prophesy here ... Direct v. Indirect actions are what we are discussing - 17/04/2012 04:18:32 AM 1047 Views
Depends on how you look at the Prophesy - 18/04/2012 01:45:23 PM 795 Views
Of course, but the point of my example was... - 17/04/2012 06:08:09 PM 838 Views
Where are you getting this happens over thousands of years? - 18/04/2012 01:47:42 PM 824 Views
Because that was the important part of that post. - 18/04/2012 05:28:10 PM 966 Views
Don't know when this became about winning - 19/04/2012 02:08:16 AM 754 Views
Re: I never said it was. - 18/04/2012 12:37:23 AM 1025 Views
Re: As far as I understand it, that future is impossible anyway. - 04/04/2012 07:16:13 AM 1059 Views
Re: As far as I understand it, that future is impossible anyway. - 06/04/2012 10:33:00 PM 960 Views
Thank you for that analysis. *NM* - 17/04/2012 12:36:08 AM 473 Views

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