... that if people die thousands of years after Rand's time, because of decisions made by people who lived long after his death, it's Rand's fault? Do you think the remnant of a remnant will live eternally then?
Honestly. Descendants happen when your people survive.
I'm referring to the possibility that the Remnant are a deliberately chosen group of people (as in SAVED). What happens to those who do not choose to follow the Dragon's Peace looks to be extinction. Their death is not the fault of the Dragon. It looks to be the fault of their choice to continue to deny their heritage as followers of The Way. Just as these people die in war the remnant and their descendants will live and thrive assuming they accept the Peace and stand aside from the war. This is not a difficult concept to understand.
But just in case, let's recap. Prophesy says the Aiel will be broken and destroyed EXCEPT for the remnant Rand will save. Aviendha's vision showed a large group of Aiel dying out due to fighting a war they could not win. This does not go against the Prophesy, as long as there are a remnant of the Aiel who do not participate in the war. If that remnant was saved by Rand (presumably because the chose to go back to The Way) then we have a viable reason Aviendha's vision is not false.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
Aviendha, the columns, and the Seanchan
- 03/04/2012 04:29:31 PM
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The entire point, I believe, is to give Avienda the opportunity to change that future
- 03/04/2012 05:13:48 PM
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As far as I understand it, that future is impossible anyway.
- 03/04/2012 07:30:52 PM
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Depends on how one defines Aiel
- 04/04/2012 04:11:11 AM
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There are more than there were before.
- 04/04/2012 07:03:27 AM
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But when the prophesy was made there many followers
- 04/04/2012 10:10:54 AM
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The Tuatha'an are not Aiel.
- 04/04/2012 06:28:47 PM
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Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel.
- 05/04/2012 01:41:23 AM
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Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel.
- 05/04/2012 07:39:04 AM
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Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel.
- 05/04/2012 02:14:37 PM
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Yes, I was thinking of the Aiel's suicidal traditions as well.
- 05/04/2012 06:24:56 PM
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Re: Yes, I was thinking of the Aiel's suicidal traditions as well.
- 06/04/2012 12:20:31 AM
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Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel.
- 06/04/2012 10:38:24 PM
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Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel.
- 07/04/2012 06:27:27 AM
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Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel.
- 07/04/2012 07:23:03 PM
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So what you're saying...
- 07/04/2012 10:07:59 PM
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What I am saying is that it's not a "pure bloodline" that makes one an Aiel
- 08/04/2012 12:16:10 AM
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I never said it was.
- 08/04/2012 12:43:26 AM
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Actually you did In your above post you speak of the Tinkers as not Aiel because they have been
- 08/04/2012 06:09:01 AM
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No...
- 08/04/2012 07:12:22 AM
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You have no evidence that the Tuath'an are mostly comprised of runaways etc
- 08/04/2012 05:16:54 PM
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Re: You have no evidence that the Tuath'an are mostly comprised of runaways etc
- 08/04/2012 06:43:27 PM
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Re: You have no evidence that the Tuath'an are mostly comprised of runaways etc
- 08/04/2012 07:52:10 PM
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Red hair is double recessive ... Doesn't take much to eliminate it from the gene pool. There could
- 08/04/2012 11:22:36 PM
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You are consistently making the same mistake.
- 09/04/2012 02:45:46 AM
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They are the same thing. The remnant of a remnant are Aiel
- 10/04/2012 05:04:55 AM
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No. They are not.
- 10/04/2012 05:42:29 AM
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Never said the remnant of the remnant was the whole of the Aiel
- 10/04/2012 05:45:47 PM
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You said that redefining the Aiel would allow Aviendha's vision to be possible.
- 10/04/2012 06:53:51 PM
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No , I said there were many ways to interpret the statement based on how one defines Aiel
- 10/04/2012 07:36:11 PM
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All of which is entirely irrelevant.
- 10/04/2012 07:38:29 PM
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Actually it states he will save a remnant of a remnant
- 10/04/2012 07:47:04 PM
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Re: Actually it states he will save a remnant of a remnant
- 11/04/2012 01:40:36 AM
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That is what I just said
- 14/04/2012 01:41:56 AM
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What is important about that?
- 14/04/2012 04:35:55 AM
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The importance is that the prophesy says that Rand
- 14/04/2012 06:06:31 PM
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So what you're saying is...
- 14/04/2012 09:45:36 PM
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That's exactly it 
- 14/04/2012 11:21:25 PM
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- 14/04/2012 11:21:25 PM
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Good.
- 15/04/2012 02:01:14 AM
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He sets it in motion, thus his actions lead to it
- 15/04/2012 02:55:13 PM
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Yes, but in that case, he is responsible for everything, ever.
- 15/04/2012 05:29:31 PM
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We are interpreting Prophesy here ... Direct v. Indirect actions are what we are discussing
- 15/04/2012 07:21:29 PM
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Re: We are interpreting Prophesy here ... Direct v. Indirect actions are what we are discussing
- 17/04/2012 04:18:32 AM
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Of course, but the point of my example was...
- 17/04/2012 06:08:09 PM
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Where are you getting this happens over thousands of years?
- 18/04/2012 01:47:42 PM
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Re: As far as I understand it, that future is impossible anyway.
- 04/04/2012 07:16:13 AM
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Re: As far as I understand it, that future is impossible anyway.
- 06/04/2012 10:33:00 PM
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