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I think you are misunderstanding what I meant darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 18/05/2012 04:22:38 PM
We also know thanks to Moghedien that those simple commands (I.e. don't trust men, the DR is scary etc...), must be something the person already basically believes or wants ... "LIVE Liandrin" essentially made it impossible for Liandrin to put herself in a situation where she could kill herself, even though she had effectively been Stilled. For Egwene to be effected by something like this, the seed of the belief would have had to have been there or she would have struggled with the command.


I think the seed(s) were there, for instance Egwene would have had a fear of male channelers, as any resident of the WOTverse would have had considering the breaking of the world.
Often considering men to be 'woolheaded' does not show a lot of trust in males of the world. There is also the situation she is in, namely being surrounded by scheming AS. These factors, I really believe, would make Egwene highly susceptible to a bit of subtle compulsion.


What I am talking about is not "subtle compulsion" ... What happened to Liandrin was not subtle at all ... It's more like an unbreakable command that consumed her life. Twisting small beliefs into actionable ones seems to be a very advanced form of Comulsion that only Graendal has evidenced enough Talent to achieve ... Moghedien fell back onto this Command version because she was not skilled enough to do other forms.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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Egwene under compulsion Knightscape - 17/05/2012 05:40:31 AM 1948 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion Sidious - 17/05/2012 08:27:50 AM 1250 Views
To add to that darius_sedai - 17/05/2012 01:46:02 PM 1065 Views
Re: To add to that Knightscape - 18/05/2012 06:04:07 AM 1080 Views
Re: To add to that Sidious - 18/05/2012 08:58:23 AM 962 Views
Re: To add to that Knightscape - 19/05/2012 04:00:49 AM 942 Views
Re: To add to that Evil_Monkey - 19/05/2012 11:04:14 AM 877 Views
Re: To add to that Knightscape - 20/05/2012 05:38:31 AM 913 Views
I think you are misunderstanding what I meant darius_sedai - 18/05/2012 04:22:38 PM 952 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion Datakim - 18/05/2012 11:31:01 PM 1102 Views
Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" darius_sedai - 18/05/2012 11:47:44 PM 849 Views
Re: Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" DomA - 19/05/2012 12:31:10 AM 1107 Views
Yes I know. That's the point we are discussing. darius_sedai - 19/05/2012 12:44:27 AM 816 Views
Re: Yes I know. That's the point we are discussing. Datakim - 20/05/2012 07:01:23 AM 959 Views
Fair point on Ishamael darius_sedai - 20/05/2012 03:36:32 PM 993 Views
Re: Fair point on Ishamael Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:56:30 PM 982 Views
You are over simplifying it I think darius_sedai - 21/05/2012 03:33:48 PM 1013 Views
Re: Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" Datakim - 20/05/2012 06:54:40 AM 935 Views
Well, Elza did somehow... Voscaia Sedai - 20/05/2012 11:04:56 AM 926 Views
It happened off screen darius_sedai - 20/05/2012 03:44:40 PM 914 Views
Re: It happened off screen Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:45:26 PM 884 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion DomA - 19/05/2012 12:05:32 AM 1233 Views
And lets not forget that Egwene knows to counter compulsion... fionwe1987 - 19/05/2012 01:13:39 AM 971 Views
The Headaches Knightscape - 19/05/2012 04:47:23 AM 954 Views
I always thought the headaches were just something Aran'gar did to get close to Egwene darius_sedai - 19/05/2012 04:10:32 PM 902 Views
Re: The Headaches DomA - 19/05/2012 05:12:26 PM 1021 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion Datakim - 20/05/2012 06:37:23 AM 947 Views
Like I said before... fionwe1987 - 20/05/2012 07:30:58 PM 918 Views
Re: Like I said before... Knightscape - 20/05/2012 08:57:17 PM 819 Views
Finding a weave and recognizing the symptoms are different things darius_sedai - 21/05/2012 03:13:12 AM 837 Views
Re: Finding a weave and recognizing the symptoms are different things Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:32:30 PM 876 Views
No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary darius_sedai - 21/05/2012 01:48:06 PM 909 Views
Re: No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:57:44 PM 898 Views
Re: No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary DomA - 21/05/2012 02:44:09 PM 960 Views
Re: Like I said before... Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:21:34 PM 826 Views
Re: Like I said before... fionwe1987 - 21/05/2012 06:00:35 PM 969 Views
Seems logical to me, for whatever that is worth. Joel - 21/05/2012 07:28:11 PM 816 Views
Why bother? She's Egwene, and served the Shadow's end of her own free will Cannoli - 21/05/2012 11:13:26 PM 1117 Views
Re: Why bother? She's Egwene, and served the Shadow's end of her own free will Sidious - 22/05/2012 08:22:46 AM 859 Views
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