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I think you are misunderstanding what I meant darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 18/05/2012 04:22:38 PM
We also know thanks to Moghedien that those simple commands (I.e. don't trust men, the DR is scary etc...), must be something the person already basically believes or wants ... "LIVE Liandrin" essentially made it impossible for Liandrin to put herself in a situation where she could kill herself, even though she had effectively been Stilled. For Egwene to be effected by something like this, the seed of the belief would have had to have been there or she would have struggled with the command.


I think the seed(s) were there, for instance Egwene would have had a fear of male channelers, as any resident of the WOTverse would have had considering the breaking of the world.
Often considering men to be 'woolheaded' does not show a lot of trust in males of the world. There is also the situation she is in, namely being surrounded by scheming AS. These factors, I really believe, would make Egwene highly susceptible to a bit of subtle compulsion.


What I am talking about is not "subtle compulsion" ... What happened to Liandrin was not subtle at all ... It's more like an unbreakable command that consumed her life. Twisting small beliefs into actionable ones seems to be a very advanced form of Comulsion that only Graendal has evidenced enough Talent to achieve ... Moghedien fell back onto this Command version because she was not skilled enough to do other forms.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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Egwene under compulsion Knightscape - 17/05/2012 05:40:31 AM 2099 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion Sidious - 17/05/2012 08:27:50 AM 1418 Views
To add to that darius_sedai - 17/05/2012 01:46:02 PM 1205 Views
Re: To add to that Knightscape - 18/05/2012 06:04:07 AM 1234 Views
Re: To add to that Sidious - 18/05/2012 08:58:23 AM 1095 Views
Re: To add to that Knightscape - 19/05/2012 04:00:49 AM 1066 Views
Re: To add to that Evil_Monkey - 19/05/2012 11:04:14 AM 1051 Views
Re: To add to that Knightscape - 20/05/2012 05:38:31 AM 1031 Views
I think you are misunderstanding what I meant darius_sedai - 18/05/2012 04:22:38 PM 1084 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion Datakim - 18/05/2012 11:31:01 PM 1257 Views
Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" darius_sedai - 18/05/2012 11:47:44 PM 972 Views
Re: Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" DomA - 19/05/2012 12:31:10 AM 1256 Views
Yes I know. That's the point we are discussing. darius_sedai - 19/05/2012 12:44:27 AM 952 Views
Re: Yes I know. That's the point we are discussing. Datakim - 20/05/2012 07:01:23 AM 1090 Views
Fair point on Ishamael darius_sedai - 20/05/2012 03:36:32 PM 1160 Views
Re: Fair point on Ishamael Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:56:30 PM 1158 Views
You are over simplifying it I think darius_sedai - 21/05/2012 03:33:48 PM 1167 Views
Re: Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" Datakim - 20/05/2012 06:54:40 AM 1068 Views
Well, Elza did somehow... Voscaia Sedai - 20/05/2012 11:04:56 AM 1091 Views
It happened off screen darius_sedai - 20/05/2012 03:44:40 PM 1052 Views
Re: It happened off screen Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:45:26 PM 1056 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion DomA - 19/05/2012 12:05:32 AM 1386 Views
And lets not forget that Egwene knows to counter compulsion... fionwe1987 - 19/05/2012 01:13:39 AM 1106 Views
The Headaches Knightscape - 19/05/2012 04:47:23 AM 1085 Views
I always thought the headaches were just something Aran'gar did to get close to Egwene darius_sedai - 19/05/2012 04:10:32 PM 1059 Views
Re: The Headaches DomA - 19/05/2012 05:12:26 PM 1162 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion Datakim - 20/05/2012 06:37:23 AM 1111 Views
Like I said before... fionwe1987 - 20/05/2012 07:30:58 PM 1072 Views
Re: Like I said before... Knightscape - 20/05/2012 08:57:17 PM 995 Views
Finding a weave and recognizing the symptoms are different things darius_sedai - 21/05/2012 03:13:12 AM 1010 Views
Re: Finding a weave and recognizing the symptoms are different things Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:32:30 PM 1036 Views
No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary darius_sedai - 21/05/2012 01:48:06 PM 1076 Views
Re: No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:57:44 PM 1074 Views
Re: No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary DomA - 21/05/2012 02:44:09 PM 1120 Views
Re: Like I said before... Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:21:34 PM 982 Views
Re: Like I said before... fionwe1987 - 21/05/2012 06:00:35 PM 1129 Views
Seems logical to me, for whatever that is worth. Joel - 21/05/2012 07:28:11 PM 1022 Views
Why bother? She's Egwene, and served the Shadow's end of her own free will Cannoli - 21/05/2012 11:13:26 PM 1243 Views
Re: Why bother? She's Egwene, and served the Shadow's end of her own free will Sidious - 22/05/2012 08:22:46 AM 996 Views
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