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Re: Finding a weave and recognizing the symptoms are different things Datakim Send a noteboard - 21/05/2012 01:32:30 PM

You don't need to be a doctor to see when someone has a cold. Egwene is far to high profile to risk someone around her being compelled ... Only a master at the "craft" would have been able to pull it off with so many Channelers around her. Be'lal, Rahvin and Sammael all clearly compelled people to achieve rapid status ... But none of them had to worry much about th AS catching on... And even still there were plenty of people (Darlin in Tear, Lini in Andor and be of the council of Nine in Illian) who noticed the personality difference in those compelled.


Aran'gar was obviously reasonably competent at using compulsion, given that she was able to use compulsion on Ramshalan without totally wrecking his mind. And that was with just few moments of warning and few minutes to work with.

With weeks and months to work on Egwene, I see no reason why a slow, carefull and subtle compulsion could not have been put into place. A tiny bit one day, a little more the next and so on. Such a compulsion would likely not be noticable to those around Egwene, and even if it was, so what? So long as she did not suddenly start acting totally crazy or completely unlike herself, any changes would certainly be attributed to the stress of her new position as an Amyrlin.

The whole point here is that the compulsion would be a subtle one, and not blatant like for example Rahvins compulsion. Subtle enough that even us readers might not see it. :)
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Egwene under compulsion - 17/05/2012 05:40:31 AM 2007 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion - 17/05/2012 08:27:50 AM 1323 Views
To add to that - 17/05/2012 01:46:02 PM 1123 Views
Re: To add to that - 18/05/2012 06:04:07 AM 1136 Views
Re: To add to that - 18/05/2012 08:58:23 AM 1015 Views
Re: To add to that - 19/05/2012 04:00:49 AM 996 Views
Re: To add to that - 19/05/2012 11:04:14 AM 929 Views
Re: To add to that - 20/05/2012 05:38:31 AM 959 Views
I think you are misunderstanding what I meant - 18/05/2012 04:22:38 PM 1001 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion - 18/05/2012 11:31:01 PM 1162 Views
Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" - 18/05/2012 11:47:44 PM 907 Views
Re: Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" - 19/05/2012 12:31:10 AM 1168 Views
Yes I know. That's the point we are discussing. - 19/05/2012 12:44:27 AM 881 Views
Re: Yes I know. That's the point we are discussing. - 20/05/2012 07:01:23 AM 1016 Views
Fair point on Ishamael - 20/05/2012 03:36:32 PM 1054 Views
Re: Fair point on Ishamael - 21/05/2012 01:56:30 PM 1040 Views
You are over simplifying it I think - 21/05/2012 03:33:48 PM 1073 Views
Re: Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" - 20/05/2012 06:54:40 AM 985 Views
Well, Elza did somehow... - 20/05/2012 11:04:56 AM 984 Views
It happened off screen - 20/05/2012 03:44:40 PM 973 Views
Re: It happened off screen - 21/05/2012 01:45:26 PM 945 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion - 19/05/2012 12:05:32 AM 1288 Views
And lets not forget that Egwene knows to counter compulsion... - 19/05/2012 01:13:39 AM 1025 Views
The Headaches - 19/05/2012 04:47:23 AM 1007 Views
Re: The Headaches - 19/05/2012 05:12:26 PM 1076 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion - 20/05/2012 06:37:23 AM 1006 Views
Like I said before... - 20/05/2012 07:30:58 PM 970 Views
Re: Like I said before... - 20/05/2012 08:57:17 PM 877 Views
Finding a weave and recognizing the symptoms are different things - 21/05/2012 03:13:12 AM 896 Views
Re: Finding a weave and recognizing the symptoms are different things - 21/05/2012 01:32:30 PM 933 Views
No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary - 21/05/2012 01:48:06 PM 963 Views
Re: No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary - 21/05/2012 01:57:44 PM 954 Views
Re: No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary - 21/05/2012 02:44:09 PM 1019 Views
Re: Like I said before... - 21/05/2012 01:21:34 PM 882 Views
Re: Like I said before... - 21/05/2012 06:00:35 PM 1029 Views
Seems logical to me, for whatever that is worth. - 21/05/2012 07:28:11 PM 890 Views

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