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Six Chosen... entyti Send a noteboard - 20/09/2012 05:19:17 AM
... there are five primary Forsaken for the end battle (with Taim now officially one of the Forsaken).


Moridin, Demandred, Graendal (Hessalam), Moghedian, Taim, and Cyndane.

On a slight tangent... who do you think ordered Isam to kill Al'Thor. Is it too obvious to assume it was Cyndane?
(Just realized this is addressed in a different thread)
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AMOL Prologue : Analysis of Forsaken section *major spoilers* Sidious - 19/09/2012 05:47:21 PM 3019 Views
You left out that Taim and Demandred have met before. Narg - 19/09/2012 06:19:01 PM 1262 Views
Part of me keeps screaming Logain, though that can't be right... Cannoli - 20/09/2012 12:14:00 PM 1213 Views
I thought of Logain as well... Narg - 20/09/2012 06:10:58 PM 1078 Views
We have our answer as to why Cyndane and Moiraine are reduced in power. Nargs - 20/09/2012 05:14:01 AM 1153 Views
It was spelled out before. Terez - 20/09/2012 05:25:05 AM 1039 Views
And some of us guessed that's what happened, we just didn't have evidence. *NM* Cannoli - 20/09/2012 12:04:18 PM 610 Views
Nor a lot of support for the idea... DomA - 22/09/2012 06:28:14 PM 1021 Views
Really? Seemed like the obvious series of events darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 02:32:35 PM 971 Views
I know... DomA - 23/09/2012 05:30:42 PM 1013 Views
I'm not so sure Sidious - 24/09/2012 05:32:50 PM 977 Views
Why question it? darius_sedai - 25/09/2012 01:40:39 AM 891 Views
Re: Why question it? Sidious - 25/09/2012 06:12:32 AM 845 Views
No she doesn't. She focuses on Graendal's punishment being about her looks darius_sedai - 25/09/2012 04:10:04 PM 1090 Views
Re: No she doesn't. She focuses on Graendal's punishment being about her looks Sidious - 25/09/2012 06:41:13 PM 1018 Views
Re: No she doesn't. She focuses on Graendal's punishment being about her looks DomA - 25/09/2012 07:21:03 PM 990 Views
Re: No she doesn't. She focuses on Graendal's punishment being about her looks Sidious - 25/09/2012 07:53:47 PM 797 Views
Six Chosen... entyti - 20/09/2012 05:19:17 AM 1184 Views
It's fan fiction, but it's cannon fan fiction The Wandering Gambler - 20/09/2012 06:55:18 AM 1142 Views
Demandred - the wasted Forsaken Tom - 20/09/2012 08:14:15 PM 1066 Views
RJ's writing was bad. Sanderson's is far worse. *NM* Marshall - 21/09/2012 06:19:04 AM 618 Views
Re: Demandred - the wasted Forsaken DomA - 22/09/2012 07:23:19 PM 944 Views
Talmanes DomA - 23/09/2012 12:42:27 AM 1366 Views
I think you once again overestimate my appreciation of the series. Tom - 25/09/2012 02:33:34 PM 950 Views
Re: Talmanes echooff - 02/10/2012 03:27:05 PM 817 Views
I'm disappointed after waiting a week for a new post in the Forsaken thread, it's about Talmanes! Shannow - 02/10/2012 09:46:48 PM 1001 Views
Two interesting Forsaken issues you haven't raised DomA - 22/09/2012 06:21:34 PM 1219 Views
Seems to me that Taim himself was behind going to Rand darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 02:53:32 AM 948 Views
Re: Seems to me that Taim himself was behind going to Rand DomA - 23/09/2012 05:50:48 PM 946 Views
I think I rebel against this thought process because of the Taimandred Red Herring darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 06:35:19 PM 904 Views
Re: I think I rebel against this thought process because of the Taimandred Red Herring DomA - 23/09/2012 07:46:59 PM 1145 Views
The first time we hear about Transmigration is in LOC darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 08:50:10 PM 1151 Views
Why was Ishamael reinstantiated as Nae'blis after his death? Marshall - 02/10/2012 10:17:03 PM 967 Views
I have to wonder at Hessalam darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 01:20:13 PM 1144 Views
Re: I have to wonder at Hessalam DomA - 23/09/2012 06:52:10 PM 1200 Views
I agree that B-Sand seems to have inserted Graendal into the Slayer plot line in TOM darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 07:17:15 PM 914 Views
Re: I agree that B-Sand seems to have inserted Graendal into the Slayer plot line in TOM DomA - 23/09/2012 08:19:02 PM 928 Views
EDIT ... Demandred has only had about 9 months (according to wotchron) darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 09:13:44 PM 1031 Views
Re: I have to wonder at Hessalam Sidious - 24/09/2012 05:18:29 PM 1395 Views
I don't think she's old. Just really really really ugly! darius_sedai - 25/09/2012 03:22:56 AM 880 Views
Re: I don't think she's old. Just really really really ugly! Sidious - 25/09/2012 06:13:51 AM 926 Views
So based on this new info, what is Demandred's big game? Shara or Isle of Madmen back on the table? Shannow - 23/09/2012 08:01:03 PM 963 Views
Re: So based on this new info, what is Demandred's big game? DomA - 23/09/2012 08:52:48 PM 1098 Views
Interesting... Shannow - 23/09/2012 09:06:18 PM 918 Views
Re: Interesting... DomA - 23/09/2012 11:31:31 PM 1112 Views
I think we saw them during the attack on Maradon. The Portal Stone attack seems less likely darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 11:41:42 PM 859 Views
Just one comment.. Shannow - 23/09/2012 11:53:09 PM 1574 Views
If I had to take a guess right now I'd say he has been setting up various Shadow armies thought the darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 09:30:34 PM 921 Views
I think at the very least he has recreated the One-and-Eighty male channelers from the AOL... Shannow - 23/09/2012 09:34:56 PM 1009 Views
As I said he will almost certainly have Channelers darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 09:47:53 PM 1140 Views
All he needed to do was train 10 guys personally.. Shannow - 23/09/2012 09:51:46 PM 817 Views
It took Taim nearly a year to train a dozen men to a place where they could teach darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 10:00:40 PM 779 Views
The world is 25,000 miles by 25,000 miles in size... Shannow - 23/09/2012 10:15:22 PM 876 Views
That is just far fetched ... I think I would laugh out loud if that is the case darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 10:43:37 PM 888 Views
Direct quote from Demandred refutes this... Shannow - 23/09/2012 10:49:10 PM 854 Views
Demanded is much more like Mesaana in his ways darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 10:55:00 PM 879 Views
Re: Demanded is much more like Mesaana in his ways Shannow - 23/09/2012 11:36:54 PM 876 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 24/09/2012 12:31:48 AM 954 Views
"My rule is secure." Could Demandred be ruling an entire Mirror World? Shannow - 23/09/2012 10:43:51 PM 983 Views
I can certainly something like this happening darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 10:50:35 PM 777 Views
I'm not sure it's possible... DomA - 24/09/2012 03:02:26 AM 911 Views
I think ... Sidious - 24/09/2012 05:36:38 PM 904 Views
The changes in Moghedien darius_sedai - 25/09/2012 03:29:15 AM 765 Views
I believe she commented on Graendal's strength, comparing it to Nynaeve or something? Shannow - 25/09/2012 11:07:24 PM 907 Views
Well.. fionwe1987 - 25/09/2012 11:15:21 PM 786 Views
Thanks for the quote, but reading that, it kind of implies the opposite, to me... Shannow - 25/09/2012 11:35:53 PM 1101 Views
Hmmm.... fionwe1987 - 26/09/2012 12:00:33 AM 847 Views
Hehe, that old argument again. Shannow - 26/09/2012 12:09:25 AM 746 Views
Yes. fionwe1987 - 26/09/2012 12:58:03 AM 748 Views
I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 04:11:16 AM 820 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength Sidious - 26/09/2012 08:53:02 AM 794 Views
Well... Shannow - 26/09/2012 09:09:38 AM 761 Views
Re: Well... Sidious - 26/09/2012 10:17:03 AM 892 Views
Nice speculation. I like that type of calculation. Shannow - 26/09/2012 10:59:43 AM 818 Views
Moiraine lost more than 2/3 of her strength. Siuan lost about that and Moiraine seems darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 04:46:18 PM 792 Views
Re: Well... fionwe1987 - 27/09/2012 03:12:06 AM 773 Views
Re: Well... Shannow - 27/09/2012 08:17:07 AM 747 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength fionwe1987 - 27/09/2012 03:00:04 AM 826 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength Sidious - 27/09/2012 07:23:11 AM 806 Views
As always you forget book 4 is more than half way through the timeline of the series darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 03:58:22 AM 827 Views
Actually...... DomA - 26/09/2012 02:30:00 AM 896 Views
Agree with this.. Shannow - 26/09/2012 06:12:34 AM 718 Views
Not sure that's completely true.. fionwe1987 - 26/09/2012 06:42:51 AM 764 Views
Re: Not sure that's completely true.. DomA - 26/09/2012 03:02:41 PM 916 Views
This is what I've been saying for years! darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 05:48:01 PM 652 Views
Re: Not sure that's completely true.. fionwe1987 - 27/09/2012 03:17:00 AM 794 Views
Probably something like this Sidious - 26/09/2012 08:36:40 AM 785 Views
Probably true, but maybe a hint from a Sanderson interview should be considered here... Shannow - 26/09/2012 08:56:32 AM 751 Views
Re: Probably true, but maybe a hint from a Sanderson interview should be considered here... Sidious - 26/09/2012 10:01:08 AM 702 Views
Graendal almost has to be Stronger than Nynaeve darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 05:57:35 PM 954 Views
One thing about that... fionwe1987 - 27/09/2012 02:58:56 AM 857 Views
Possible, but I find it unlikely darius_sedai - 27/09/2012 06:16:56 AM 762 Views
The reason I think that... fionwe1987 - 27/09/2012 06:25:48 AM 794 Views
I always assumed Nynaeve at the top was a list he later revised as he decided to bring in darius_sedai - 27/09/2012 06:39:35 AM 855 Views
Of course that's the correct answer, yes. Shannow - 27/09/2012 08:12:45 AM 934 Views
I wasn't making a Strength comparison ... I was commenting on her lack of cowardice darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 03:45:36 AM 829 Views
Re: I wasn't making a Strength comparison ... I was commenting on her lack of cowardice kHz1000 - 26/09/2012 05:30:36 PM 900 Views
That is the question I was getting at darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 06:00:03 PM 868 Views
Re: That is the question I was getting at kHz1000 - 26/09/2012 07:01:34 PM 881 Views
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