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The changes in Moghedien darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 25/09/2012 03:29:15 AM
I'm wondering if her new found self assurance is another example of Bsand not really getting a character or if it's something RJ planned to incorporate. Note this exchange, one of several in the scene ...

This time, Moghedien did laugh. A quiet laugh, but Graendal heard. The woman shot her a glare that could have set a section of the ocean aflame all on its own.

Moghedien returned a calm gaze, feeling more confident now. She resisted the urge to stroke the cour’souvra. Bring what you will, Graendal, she thought. We are on level footing now. We shall see who ends this race ahead.

Old Moghedien would never have challenged Graendal so openly! It's an interesting change in the character ... I wonder how she'll do when faced with enemies from the Light.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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AMOL Prologue : Analysis of Forsaken section *major spoilers* Sidious - 19/09/2012 05:47:21 PM 3586 Views
You left out that Taim and Demandred have met before. Narg - 19/09/2012 06:19:01 PM 1795 Views
Part of me keeps screaming Logain, though that can't be right... Cannoli - 20/09/2012 12:14:00 PM 1740 Views
I thought of Logain as well... Narg - 20/09/2012 06:10:58 PM 1600 Views
We have our answer as to why Cyndane and Moiraine are reduced in power. Nargs - 20/09/2012 05:14:01 AM 1730 Views
It was spelled out before. Terez - 20/09/2012 05:25:05 AM 1532 Views
And some of us guessed that's what happened, we just didn't have evidence. *NM* Cannoli - 20/09/2012 12:04:18 PM 880 Views
Nor a lot of support for the idea... DomA - 22/09/2012 06:28:14 PM 1544 Views
Really? Seemed like the obvious series of events darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 02:32:35 PM 1499 Views
I know... DomA - 23/09/2012 05:30:42 PM 1578 Views
I'm not so sure Sidious - 24/09/2012 05:32:50 PM 1548 Views
Why question it? darius_sedai - 25/09/2012 01:40:39 AM 1367 Views
Re: Why question it? Sidious - 25/09/2012 06:12:32 AM 1384 Views
No she doesn't. She focuses on Graendal's punishment being about her looks darius_sedai - 25/09/2012 04:10:04 PM 1620 Views
Re: No she doesn't. She focuses on Graendal's punishment being about her looks Sidious - 25/09/2012 06:41:13 PM 1554 Views
Re: No she doesn't. She focuses on Graendal's punishment being about her looks DomA - 25/09/2012 07:21:03 PM 1513 Views
Re: No she doesn't. She focuses on Graendal's punishment being about her looks Sidious - 25/09/2012 07:53:47 PM 1323 Views
Six Chosen... entyti - 20/09/2012 05:19:17 AM 1710 Views
It's fan fiction, but it's cannon fan fiction The Wandering Gambler - 20/09/2012 06:55:18 AM 1764 Views
Demandred - the wasted Forsaken Tom - 20/09/2012 08:14:15 PM 1663 Views
RJ's writing was bad. Sanderson's is far worse. *NM* Marshall - 21/09/2012 06:19:04 AM 883 Views
Re: Demandred - the wasted Forsaken DomA - 22/09/2012 07:23:19 PM 1502 Views
Talmanes DomA - 23/09/2012 12:42:27 AM 1908 Views
I think you once again overestimate my appreciation of the series. Tom - 25/09/2012 02:33:34 PM 1450 Views
Re: Talmanes echooff - 02/10/2012 03:27:05 PM 1317 Views
I'm disappointed after waiting a week for a new post in the Forsaken thread, it's about Talmanes! Shannow - 02/10/2012 09:46:48 PM 1497 Views
Two interesting Forsaken issues you haven't raised DomA - 22/09/2012 06:21:34 PM 1739 Views
Seems to me that Taim himself was behind going to Rand darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 02:53:32 AM 1536 Views
Re: Seems to me that Taim himself was behind going to Rand DomA - 23/09/2012 05:50:48 PM 1534 Views
I think I rebel against this thought process because of the Taimandred Red Herring darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 06:35:19 PM 1497 Views
Re: I think I rebel against this thought process because of the Taimandred Red Herring DomA - 23/09/2012 07:46:59 PM 1656 Views
The first time we hear about Transmigration is in LOC darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 08:50:10 PM 1629 Views
Why was Ishamael reinstantiated as Nae'blis after his death? Marshall - 02/10/2012 10:17:03 PM 1520 Views
I have to wonder at Hessalam darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 01:20:13 PM 1806 Views
Re: I have to wonder at Hessalam DomA - 23/09/2012 06:52:10 PM 1778 Views
I agree that B-Sand seems to have inserted Graendal into the Slayer plot line in TOM darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 07:17:15 PM 1445 Views
Re: I agree that B-Sand seems to have inserted Graendal into the Slayer plot line in TOM DomA - 23/09/2012 08:19:02 PM 1457 Views
EDIT ... Demandred has only had about 9 months (according to wotchron) darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 09:13:44 PM 1558 Views
Re: I have to wonder at Hessalam Sidious - 24/09/2012 05:18:29 PM 1895 Views
I don't think she's old. Just really really really ugly! darius_sedai - 25/09/2012 03:22:56 AM 1383 Views
Re: I don't think she's old. Just really really really ugly! Sidious - 25/09/2012 06:13:51 AM 1482 Views
So based on this new info, what is Demandred's big game? Shara or Isle of Madmen back on the table? Shannow - 23/09/2012 08:01:03 PM 1513 Views
Re: So based on this new info, what is Demandred's big game? DomA - 23/09/2012 08:52:48 PM 1592 Views
Interesting... Shannow - 23/09/2012 09:06:18 PM 1388 Views
Re: Interesting... DomA - 23/09/2012 11:31:31 PM 1646 Views
I think we saw them during the attack on Maradon. The Portal Stone attack seems less likely darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 11:41:42 PM 1389 Views
Just one comment.. Shannow - 23/09/2012 11:53:09 PM 2101 Views
If I had to take a guess right now I'd say he has been setting up various Shadow armies thought the darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 09:30:34 PM 1421 Views
I think at the very least he has recreated the One-and-Eighty male channelers from the AOL... Shannow - 23/09/2012 09:34:56 PM 1506 Views
As I said he will almost certainly have Channelers darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 09:47:53 PM 1692 Views
All he needed to do was train 10 guys personally.. Shannow - 23/09/2012 09:51:46 PM 1352 Views
It took Taim nearly a year to train a dozen men to a place where they could teach darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 10:00:40 PM 1310 Views
The world is 25,000 miles by 25,000 miles in size... Shannow - 23/09/2012 10:15:22 PM 1423 Views
That is just far fetched ... I think I would laugh out loud if that is the case darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 10:43:37 PM 1408 Views
Direct quote from Demandred refutes this... Shannow - 23/09/2012 10:49:10 PM 1429 Views
Demanded is much more like Mesaana in his ways darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 10:55:00 PM 1398 Views
Re: Demanded is much more like Mesaana in his ways Shannow - 23/09/2012 11:36:54 PM 1450 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 24/09/2012 12:31:48 AM 1471 Views
"My rule is secure." Could Demandred be ruling an entire Mirror World? Shannow - 23/09/2012 10:43:51 PM 1511 Views
I can certainly something like this happening darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 10:50:35 PM 1282 Views
I'm not sure it's possible... DomA - 24/09/2012 03:02:26 AM 1442 Views
I think ... Sidious - 24/09/2012 05:36:38 PM 1389 Views
The changes in Moghedien darius_sedai - 25/09/2012 03:29:15 AM 1292 Views
I believe she commented on Graendal's strength, comparing it to Nynaeve or something? Shannow - 25/09/2012 11:07:24 PM 1428 Views
Well.. fionwe1987 - 25/09/2012 11:15:21 PM 1329 Views
Thanks for the quote, but reading that, it kind of implies the opposite, to me... Shannow - 25/09/2012 11:35:53 PM 1614 Views
Hmmm.... fionwe1987 - 26/09/2012 12:00:33 AM 1368 Views
Hehe, that old argument again. Shannow - 26/09/2012 12:09:25 AM 1281 Views
Yes. fionwe1987 - 26/09/2012 12:58:03 AM 1276 Views
I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 04:11:16 AM 1429 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength Sidious - 26/09/2012 08:53:02 AM 1306 Views
Well... Shannow - 26/09/2012 09:09:38 AM 1268 Views
Re: Well... Sidious - 26/09/2012 10:17:03 AM 1409 Views
Nice speculation. I like that type of calculation. Shannow - 26/09/2012 10:59:43 AM 1379 Views
Moiraine lost more than 2/3 of her strength. Siuan lost about that and Moiraine seems darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 04:46:18 PM 1515 Views
Re: Well... fionwe1987 - 27/09/2012 03:12:06 AM 1317 Views
Re: Well... Shannow - 27/09/2012 08:17:07 AM 1278 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength fionwe1987 - 27/09/2012 03:00:04 AM 1345 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength Sidious - 27/09/2012 07:23:11 AM 1350 Views
As always you forget book 4 is more than half way through the timeline of the series darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 03:58:22 AM 1462 Views
Actually...... DomA - 26/09/2012 02:30:00 AM 1427 Views
Agree with this.. Shannow - 26/09/2012 06:12:34 AM 1204 Views
Not sure that's completely true.. fionwe1987 - 26/09/2012 06:42:51 AM 1284 Views
Re: Not sure that's completely true.. DomA - 26/09/2012 03:02:41 PM 1446 Views
This is what I've been saying for years! darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 05:48:01 PM 1148 Views
Re: Not sure that's completely true.. fionwe1987 - 27/09/2012 03:17:00 AM 1320 Views
Probably something like this Sidious - 26/09/2012 08:36:40 AM 1379 Views
Probably true, but maybe a hint from a Sanderson interview should be considered here... Shannow - 26/09/2012 08:56:32 AM 1319 Views
Re: Probably true, but maybe a hint from a Sanderson interview should be considered here... Sidious - 26/09/2012 10:01:08 AM 1234 Views
Graendal almost has to be Stronger than Nynaeve darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 05:57:35 PM 1464 Views
One thing about that... fionwe1987 - 27/09/2012 02:58:56 AM 1355 Views
Possible, but I find it unlikely darius_sedai - 27/09/2012 06:16:56 AM 1265 Views
The reason I think that... fionwe1987 - 27/09/2012 06:25:48 AM 1324 Views
I always assumed Nynaeve at the top was a list he later revised as he decided to bring in darius_sedai - 27/09/2012 06:39:35 AM 1385 Views
Of course that's the correct answer, yes. Shannow - 27/09/2012 08:12:45 AM 1433 Views
I wasn't making a Strength comparison ... I was commenting on her lack of cowardice darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 03:45:36 AM 1313 Views
Re: I wasn't making a Strength comparison ... I was commenting on her lack of cowardice kHz1000 - 26/09/2012 05:30:36 PM 1444 Views
That is the question I was getting at darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 06:00:03 PM 1361 Views
Re: That is the question I was getting at kHz1000 - 26/09/2012 07:01:34 PM 1398 Views
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